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Can mary save?
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No you did not Funches lol. You think God doesn't know who/what he forms or creates or something? Yes God creates us, then forms us in the womb. What are you going on about? That has absolutely nothing to do with the Word or anything. Jeremiah 1:5 proves that everyone was once the Word ...and was seperated from God when they came in the flesh |
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again what are you talking about? He was separated from God because of your sin, because of my sin, because of everyone's sin. Which he then defeated and returned to his father in Heaven. He is no longer separated from God. Was only separated for that little time being. doesn't matter what reasons you try to conjure up..the facts are that according to the bible the Father forsaken Jesus, which clearly means that they are not one ... |
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Can mary save?
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No, we are just that "formed" in the womb. Jesus was not "formed" in the womb. So no, we are not in existence before we are formed in the womb, where'd you get that notion? unless Mary was walking around for 9 months with a 185 pound man in her belly, then Jesus was formed....and that makes him a creation lol no Funches. Your spirit does not even exist until it is formed in the womb. That is what it means by being formed in the womb. Jesus' spirit was already formed before, and it merely entered Marry's womb. And is why you'll not find a passage saying Jesus was formed in the womb. sorry Cowboy...but in Jeremiah 1:5, God told Jeremiah that he choose him before he was formed in the womb..which means that Jeremiah's spirit existed before he was formed ... this is why In the beginning everyone was The Word Incorrect Funches. God knows everything, everyone before they are "formed". But nevertheless they do not exist till they are "formed". How can something exist before it is formed? I've given you a passage that clearly displays how Jeremiah existed before he was formed....which makes Jeremiah the Word that came in the Flesh |
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Can mary save?
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??? How is that even possible to show Funches? In your eyes everything Jesus did, he did because he was "forced", because he was a "puppet". That is purely brought on through your preception, no one could show you anything to change that. if Jesus is a puppet of course you can not show it, but if he wasn't a puppet you could, no one agree with everything that someone does unless they are a stepford wife...or a puppet And explain why Jesus would even be crying out "the father and I are one". Please make sense with your comments funches. crying on the cross why have you forsaken me is proof that the Father and Jesus "are not one" crying on the cross why have you forsaken me is proof that the Father and Jesus "are not one" Sin separates us from God, and when Jesus was crucified taking all our sins on him, he then was separated from God as well. Thus why he said why hast thou forsaken me. But then he defeated what had separated him from the father and rose from the grave to return to Heaven. Cowboy,so sin seperated jesus from God?, ...wow...but if Jesus is God then how can he be seperated from himself?....Cowboy thanks for providing further proof that Jesus and The Father are not one Jesus is God, I used "God" as a generic term for his father in that statement. And when Jesus was on the cross and absorbed all our sins into him, he was separated from the Father. Thus why he felt forsaken and is why he said "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me". Cowboy..if he was seperated from the Father...clearly he and the father are not one .....Jesus is just a wannabe |
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Where was God?
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See you're still stuck on that Funches. Just because God gave the prophecy of it, doesn't mean that's the reason it happened. The prophecies are foreknowledge of something that God knows will take place. Again as I showed, Mary was totally and completely ok with it, she said let it be done. If she wouldn't have been ok with it, there would never have even been a prophecy of it with her in the first place. a Father asking his daughter to have his child is imbreeding, abuse and creepy ...a daughter that agrees to have her Father's child clearly have mental issues so again can you explain how mary can use her "Free Will" to stop a prophecy pregnancy from God her Father just admit that she can't |
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Where was God?
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There is no "facts" here. A woman cant, nor will she ever bare a child without a mans sperm. Anything short of this fact is mere religious beliefs. all the evidence points to the The Holy Spirit as being the sperm filled penis of God no one worship the holy spirit but yet it's "supposedly" God ... they claim that the holy spirit is not a "being" ..then what the hell(no pun intended) is it? everytime a post-menopausal women or a virgin gets pregnant in the bible, it's due to the holy spirit being placed inside them they were "filled" with the holy spirit or the holy spirit "came upon" them ... clear references to sperm being deposit when someone ask if you have received The Holy Spirit...it means have you been flocked by God |
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Where was God?
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If it would have been against her will, she would never have had to do it. She was a God loving woman, and she even specifically told him let your will be done. Luke 1 38 And Mary said, Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it unto me according to thy word. And the angel departed from her. She even specifically said for it to happen. The angel came to her and told her, she said ok, let it happen. I do not entertain what if's, fact is she was ok with it, THEN she was conceived with Jesus. If she would not have been ok with it, it would never have happened. But again, she said let it be done. it's require for followers to do the Will of their God whether they want to or not..it's called Faith remember, you even said that you would allow God to impregnant you if he asked... so again, I'm still waiting on your to explain how you or Mary could have use your "Free Will" to stop a prophecy pregnancy by God .... |
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Can mary save?
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No, we are just that "formed" in the womb. Jesus was not "formed" in the womb. So no, we are not in existence before we are formed in the womb, where'd you get that notion? unless Mary was walking around for 9 months with a 185 pound man in her belly, then Jesus was formed....and that makes him a creation lol no Funches. Your spirit does not even exist until it is formed in the womb. That is what it means by being formed in the womb. Jesus' spirit was already formed before, and it merely entered Marry's womb. And is why you'll not find a passage saying Jesus was formed in the womb. sorry Cowboy...but in Jeremiah 1:5, God told Jeremiah that he choose him before he was formed in the womb..which means that Jeremiah's spirit existed before he was formed ... this is why In the beginning everyone was The Word |
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Can mary save?
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??? How is that even possible to show Funches? In your eyes everything Jesus did, he did because he was "forced", because he was a "puppet". That is purely brought on through your preception, no one could show you anything to change that. if Jesus is a puppet of course you can not show it, but if he wasn't a puppet you could, no one agree with everything that someone does unless they are a stepford wife...or a puppet And explain why Jesus would even be crying out "the father and I are one". Please make sense with your comments funches. crying on the cross why have you forsaken me is proof that the Father and Jesus "are not one" crying on the cross why have you forsaken me is proof that the Father and Jesus "are not one" Sin separates us from God, and when Jesus was crucified taking all our sins on him, he then was separated from God as well. Thus why he said why hast thou forsaken me. But then he defeated what had separated him from the father and rose from the grave to return to Heaven. Cowboy,so sin seperated jesus from God?, ...wow...but if Jesus is God then how can he be seperated from himself?....Cowboy thanks for providing further proof that Jesus and The Father are not one |
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Where was God?
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Again, the two have nothing to do with one another eg., taking of Adam's rib and free will. It did not physically force Adam to do anything. That is all free will is, is YOUR ability to do any action you wish to physically do. God could have taken his arm, his leg, the hair off his head, matters none, point still remains it didn't force Adam to do an action nor did it restrict him from doing anything. Therefore no free was taken away. right...if you need an organ just put someone to sleep and take them...it has nothing to do with their "Free Will" Cowboy...you guys are getting scary Explain how it took his free will away. What did it force him to do without his consent or force him not to do something. Adam was lonely, so God made him a spouse. The how's matters none. It did not force Adam to do anything he did not want to do nor did it restrict him from doing anything. Again, after again, after again, that is the ONLY thing free will pertains to, one's actions. Cowboy.....putting people to sleep to steal their organs without their permission is sociopathic behavior ....those that believe it doesn't violate "Free WIll" has a sociopathic mentality |
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Where was God?
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Not if they welcomed it. It's only forced on someone/something that doesn't want it to happen. Show where it states anywhere close to Marry to being ok with it, show me where she was in objection to it. Cowboy stay focus Virgins do not get pregnant without sperm so explain how the prophecy that Mary a (supposedly) Virgin would have a child, can be full filled without God "intervening" Again "intervening" means forced upon, forced without the someone not being ok with it. Show where Marry had an objection to it. She was filled with the Holy Spirit, show where she refused to carry the child in any way shape or form. I again can show where she was ok with it. It would ONLY be considered intervening if she was not ok with it. doesn't matter if she was ok or not....if God tell her she is having a baby...it's not a "damn"(no pun intended) thing she can do about, I'm still waiting on your to explain how she could have stopped a pregnancy from God .... |
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Can mary save?
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No, we are just that "formed" in the womb. Jesus was not "formed" in the womb. So no, we are not in existence before we are formed in the womb, where'd you get that notion? unless Mary was walking around for 9 months with a 185 pound man in her belly, then Jesus was formed....and that makes him a creation |
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Can mary save?
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??? How is that even possible to show Funches? In your eyes everything Jesus did, he did because he was "forced", because he was a "puppet". That is purely brought on through your preception, no one could show you anything to change that. if Jesus is a puppet of course you can not show it, but if he wasn't a puppet you could, no one agree with everything that someone does unless they are a stepford wife...or a puppet And explain why Jesus would even be crying out "the father and I are one". Please make sense with your comments funches. crying on the cross why have you forsaken me is proof that the Father and Jesus "are not one" |
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Where was God?
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okay.. I concede.. you keep changing the rules  you accuse me of generalization, changing rules,..perhaps you're hallucinating firstly.. he could have.. but he didn't.. if GOD wanted human females to have the ability to be re-virginized.. he'd have created us with it originally he did...it's called celibacy secondly.. if you're suggesting a WHAT IF scenario.. that's different.. but that's not what happened to Mary.. she didn't go to sleep for 9 months so that moots your "coma" theory.. Mary also didn't attempt to have an abortion?...so what's your point? if God prophesied that you are going to have a baby...it's not a biblical thing you can do about it...which is why a Prophecy from God automatically takes away "Free Will" |
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Where was God?
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FOR EXAMPLE: ok...let's say that God told you that you have been re-virginized" and will have a child without sperm ......explain how you going to use your "Free Will" to stop this prophecy from unfolding RE-virginized?  I'm not familiar with that reference, sorryif a female Spider can be re-virginized...couldn't God do the same with a female human but to answer the question simply..? abortion 
God places you in a coma for 9 months |
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Can mary save?
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Yes Jesus did pop out of a womb for the lack of better terminology lol. But that was because Mary was filled with his spirit, his spirit "him" was already in existence. It's just he went into her womb through the Holy Spirit to take on the flesh. He was no "created". weren't everyone in "existence" before creation ..but not yet formed until they popped out of the womb ...the same as Jesus |
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Can mary save?
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No my friend. Jesus isn't REQUIRED to do anything. He does the will of the Father out of love, just as I do the will of Jesus. Love is an excuse people use to justify their stupidity towards another...so if you want to prove that Jesus have "Free Will" ...show an incident in which he rejected doing the Father's Will ??? Rejecting the Father's will and free will have no connection to one another. And now you're still forgetting Jesus said "The Father and I are one". And again the term translated here is referring to wills, desires. Jesus did the father's will because it was his will as well. funny how Jesus wasn't crying "the father and I are one" when he was being crucified..he instead was crying "why have you forsaken me" but anyway you have yet to provide anything that displays that Jesus had any "Free Will" and was anything more than just a puppet of God |
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Where was God?
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Zero-effect...you might want to read the story of Abraham and Isaac I have read the bible from cover to cover.. I perceived it to be a novel, translated and written by man.. but that's another topic all together.. don't misunderstand though.. I have been tested and responded how I saw fit(by choice) and seemly chose correctly.. so I guess you could say I passed.. unless one perceives being alive as failure.. I remember God putting Adam to sleep before stealing one of his ribs, don't you also believed that Adam had "Free Will"?.....which is why I'm unclear how you believe that you have the "Free Will" to stop a prophecy of God I don't recall anything about 'stealing ribs'.. Zero-effect...taking body parts from people "still alive" without their permission is called "Stealing".. but maybe too, he just didn't have time to explain the 'birds 'n bees' while creating them..  is that how you explain the birds and the bees to your children...that babies come from a man's rib? and for the record.. aren't "prophecy's" just someones interpretations of how certain events will unfold? for the record the prophecy was from God...but either way you have yet to explain how you can use your free will to stop it from being fullfilled FOR EXAMPLE: ok...let's say that God told you that you have been re-virginized" and will have a child without sperm ......explain how you going to use your "Free Will" to stop this prophecy from unfolding |
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Where was God?
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Again, the two have nothing to do with one another eg., taking of Adam's rib and free will. It did not physically force Adam to do anything. That is all free will is, is YOUR ability to do any action you wish to physically do. God could have taken his arm, his leg, the hair off his head, matters none, point still remains it didn't force Adam to do an action nor did it restrict him from doing anything. Therefore no free was taken away. right...if you need an organ just put someone to sleep and take them...it has nothing to do with their "Free Will" Cowboy...you guys are getting scary |
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Where was God?
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And even at that, if God stopped every "evil" thing to happen, what would there be to be judged on? so God allow evil things to take place so he can have something to judge?...er.... Cowboy..you do know that this sounds ...er....delusional and makes God a sociopath |
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