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Mon 12/31/12 11:56 AM













1 - No it's not ok fathers to impregnate their daughters. We are only children of God spiritually, not physically. This physical body PURELY pertains to this world as it is now. We will not always have this flesh, this flesh is merely temporary we are not.


ok..allow me to rephrase...believers claim that it's ok for spiritual Fathers to impregnant their spiritual daughters with a physical baby .....spiritual imbreeding, spiritual child abuse...a lack of morals


3 - No it is not ok for someone to kill a group of people. Murder is murder. It isn't even ok or right for a judge to sentence someone to death thus then carrying it out. Murder is murder, doesn't matter who you are or what you call it. God is the only one that has the right to judge anyone for their deeds.


if you claim that it's ok for God to murder....then you condone murder ....a lack of morals


God does not murder, he righteously judges.

Murder - The unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another

God's judgement is lawful. So again, it couldn't possibly be murder.


as I stated earlier..you learn from God that Murder is Judgement...that would explain why God didn't stop the shooter


No funches lol, murder is not judgement. If it is a lawful taking the life of another, it couldn't even possibly be "murder", because again murder is the unlawful taking the life of another. You're a real funny man Funches, gotta love it.


well if you wish to get legal about it....then you approve of intentional manslaughter


What are you talking about now funches? Man slaughter? No Funches. Manslaughter would be aligned with murder. And again, that is unlawful taking the life of another. And God could not do this, for he is law, he is "God" the one with authority over us. God has told us the consequence for our disobedience, so it's not like a big surprise.


"Render unto Ceasar" is why God is not the law..and this is why your attmept to find loopholes for your God to intentionally murder others is immoral....


Please don't paraphrase things that are said Funches.

Mark 12:17
17 And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. And they marvelled at him.


so God passed a law to crucify Jesus?


Yes, it was even prophesied that Jesus would be crucified. Jesus took the cross for you, for us all. Spilt his blood for the remissions of sins. It's not a law specifically pertaining to Jesus alone. But it was a law against Blasphemy. And the old covenant was completed after he gave his life for us. And is why he said while on the cross "It is done, then gave up the ghost". "It" was in reference to the old covenant.

Jesus was crucified for blasphemy, which was not true, but that's how they saw it, because they did not believe him to be who he was.


so if God is the law...it was God that Crucified Jesus

and if God is not the law...then Man crucified Jesus

pick one


Incorrect Funches.

God is law, and man was obeying what God's law was. Again, it was prophesied that Jesus would be crucified. That was the last prophecy and the fulfillment of the old covenant.

And this is laws of the old testament/covenant that we are speaking of, and in that covenant man was to carry out the judgement, thus they crucified Jesus.

Jesus didn't break any of man's laws to instigate the crucifixion. He didn't break any laws as a matter of fact, but nevertheless he was not crucified for breaking Ceasars law or any man's law.


pick one Cowboy ...either God is the law that crucified Jesus or Man is the law ...so grow a pair and pick one

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Mon 12/31/12 11:54 AM

Incorrect Funches. An alien is a "being" in a foreign location. We only normally see an "alien" as being some creature from outter space.

But people that like come here from mexico illegally, guess what? They are illegal aliens. Does that mean they are not of flesh and blood?


Cowboy..I know you may not be up on current events...but the people in Mexico are Flesh and Blood ...wow..I'm hope people believing they are not of flesh and blood is why they are being deported

but anyway....can you answer the questions about whether The Father is an alien

THE QUESTION
is The Father of flesh and blood

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Mon 12/31/12 11:50 AM
Edited by funches on Mon 12/31/12 11:59 AM







No the bible isn't wrong, "man" doesn't have to be referring to a singular being. The scripture(s) do not say God made "A" man, said he made man. It would be singular if it said he made "a" man, but it does not say such a thing.


if the bible isn't wrong, then it's "Man" not "Mankind"

it's amazing how you try to prove your point by trying to prove that the bible has been mis-translated ....


It means the SAME thing Funches lol. Again, it does not say "a" man, says man. And no I never said it was mis-translated.


if the bible isn't wrong...then stick to what is in the KJV ..and stop making up stuff


Why stick to one translation Funches? Why not search them all including cross reference of the original to know the truth meaning?

Genesis 1:27
New International Version (NIV)
27 So God created mankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them.


because we made a pact that we would only use the KJV for debates...which only proves your word means nothing ....


In just the average reading/studying the bible you can not stick to one translation Funches.

I don't remember/know what you're talking about anyways.

Different translations were made at different times by different cultures, therefore their words themselves do not mean the exact same thing.


Cowboy the pact took place when I used a passage from the "NIV" and you starting whining about it, so we made a pact to only use the KJV ...but now that it's ok to use any version of any bible...things will be interesting

I'm disappointed in you for violating the pact my young jedi padawan...

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Mon 12/31/12 11:41 AM











1 - No it's not ok fathers to impregnate their daughters. We are only children of God spiritually, not physically. This physical body PURELY pertains to this world as it is now. We will not always have this flesh, this flesh is merely temporary we are not.


ok..allow me to rephrase...believers claim that it's ok for spiritual Fathers to impregnant their spiritual daughters with a physical baby .....spiritual imbreeding, spiritual child abuse...a lack of morals


3 - No it is not ok for someone to kill a group of people. Murder is murder. It isn't even ok or right for a judge to sentence someone to death thus then carrying it out. Murder is murder, doesn't matter who you are or what you call it. God is the only one that has the right to judge anyone for their deeds.


if you claim that it's ok for God to murder....then you condone murder ....a lack of morals


God does not murder, he righteously judges.

Murder - The unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another

God's judgement is lawful. So again, it couldn't possibly be murder.


as I stated earlier..you learn from God that Murder is Judgement...that would explain why God didn't stop the shooter


No funches lol, murder is not judgement. If it is a lawful taking the life of another, it couldn't even possibly be "murder", because again murder is the unlawful taking the life of another. You're a real funny man Funches, gotta love it.


well if you wish to get legal about it....then you approve of intentional manslaughter


What are you talking about now funches? Man slaughter? No Funches. Manslaughter would be aligned with murder. And again, that is unlawful taking the life of another. And God could not do this, for he is law, he is "God" the one with authority over us. God has told us the consequence for our disobedience, so it's not like a big surprise.


"Render unto Ceasar" is why God is not the law..and this is why your attmept to find loopholes for your God to intentionally murder others is immoral....


Please don't paraphrase things that are said Funches.

Mark 12:17
17 And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. And they marvelled at him.


so God passed a law to crucify Jesus?


Yes, it was even prophesied that Jesus would be crucified. Jesus took the cross for you, for us all. Spilt his blood for the remissions of sins. It's not a law specifically pertaining to Jesus alone. But it was a law against Blasphemy. And the old covenant was completed after he gave his life for us. And is why he said while on the cross "It is done, then gave up the ghost". "It" was in reference to the old covenant.

Jesus was crucified for blasphemy, which was not true, but that's how they saw it, because they did not believe him to be who he was.


so if God is the law...it was God that Crucified Jesus

and if God is not the law...then Man crucified Jesus

pick one

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Mon 12/31/12 11:39 AM







Murder - The unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another


so you approve of E.T. the Extraterrestrial killing humans

E.T. stop murdering humans and phone home




I've seen the movie E.T. but I don't remember him killing anyone.. hmmm.

Because God is not an E.T. He is not a terrestrial.

Terrestrial - An inhabitant of the earth

God is not an inhabitant of the Earth. Heaven is God's home.


didn't you also see the movie 'Aliens" ..according to you it's ok for Aliens to kill humans ...


Have no idea what you're talking about, sounds like you watch to much science-fiction movies.


yep, I saw this one sci-fi movie and it had a talking serpent in the garden talking to a lady and got her to eat some fruit...did you see that Movie?



God is not an alien either. An alien is something to a foreign land/area. This is not a foreign place for God. God created this world, thus again it is not foreign to him.

So what's your point?


Heaven is a foreign place....it's a place where aliens live...


Yes it is a foreign place to you, the only way anything could be considered an alien here is if you were in Heaven right now.

Outside of that, no God is not an alien. The Earth is not a foreign place to God, Heaven is foreign to us, but Earth is not foreign to him for again he is the one that created it.


an alien would be a "being" that was not of Flesh and Blood.....is The Father flesh and Blood?

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Mon 12/31/12 11:35 AM





No the bible isn't wrong, "man" doesn't have to be referring to a singular being. The scripture(s) do not say God made "A" man, said he made man. It would be singular if it said he made "a" man, but it does not say such a thing.


if the bible isn't wrong, then it's "Man" not "Mankind"

it's amazing how you try to prove your point by trying to prove that the bible has been mis-translated ....


It means the SAME thing Funches lol. Again, it does not say "a" man, says man. And no I never said it was mis-translated.


if the bible isn't wrong...then stick to what is in the KJV ..and stop making up stuff


Why stick to one translation Funches? Why not search them all including cross reference of the original to know the truth meaning?

Genesis 1:27
New International Version (NIV)
27 So God created mankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them.


because we made a pact that we would only use the KJV for debates...which only proves your word means nothing ....

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Mon 12/31/12 11:25 AM



No the bible isn't wrong, "man" doesn't have to be referring to a singular being. The scripture(s) do not say God made "A" man, said he made man. It would be singular if it said he made "a" man, but it does not say such a thing.


if the bible isn't wrong, then it's "Man" not "Mankind"

it's amazing how you try to prove your point by trying to prove that the bible has been mis-translated ....


It means the SAME thing Funches lol. Again, it does not say "a" man, says man. And no I never said it was mis-translated.


if the bible isn't wrong...then stick to what is in the KJV ..and stop making up stuff

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Mon 12/31/12 11:24 AM

Surrender what papers? And what's Perry Mason have to do with anything?

Jesus said his father and him were one, he said their wills were one. So with doing his father's will, he was also doing his will.


Cowboy...I've asked for a passage in which Jesus has his own will....

ok, I'll give you one

Father Father why hath thou forsaken me .....oops wrong one, that one proves that Jesus and the Father "are not one"

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Mon 12/31/12 11:20 AM

No the bible isn't wrong, "man" doesn't have to be referring to a singular being. The scripture(s) do not say God made "A" man, said he made man. It would be singular if it said he made "a" man, but it does not say such a thing.


if the bible isn't wrong, then it's "Man" not "Mankind"

it's amazing how you try to prove your point by trying to prove that the bible has been mis-translated ....

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Mon 12/31/12 11:14 AM









1 - No it's not ok fathers to impregnate their daughters. We are only children of God spiritually, not physically. This physical body PURELY pertains to this world as it is now. We will not always have this flesh, this flesh is merely temporary we are not.


ok..allow me to rephrase...believers claim that it's ok for spiritual Fathers to impregnant their spiritual daughters with a physical baby .....spiritual imbreeding, spiritual child abuse...a lack of morals


3 - No it is not ok for someone to kill a group of people. Murder is murder. It isn't even ok or right for a judge to sentence someone to death thus then carrying it out. Murder is murder, doesn't matter who you are or what you call it. God is the only one that has the right to judge anyone for their deeds.


if you claim that it's ok for God to murder....then you condone murder ....a lack of morals


God does not murder, he righteously judges.

Murder - The unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another

God's judgement is lawful. So again, it couldn't possibly be murder.


as I stated earlier..you learn from God that Murder is Judgement...that would explain why God didn't stop the shooter


No funches lol, murder is not judgement. If it is a lawful taking the life of another, it couldn't even possibly be "murder", because again murder is the unlawful taking the life of another. You're a real funny man Funches, gotta love it.


well if you wish to get legal about it....then you approve of intentional manslaughter


What are you talking about now funches? Man slaughter? No Funches. Manslaughter would be aligned with murder. And again, that is unlawful taking the life of another. And God could not do this, for he is law, he is "God" the one with authority over us. God has told us the consequence for our disobedience, so it's not like a big surprise.


"Render unto Ceasar" is why God is not the law..and this is why your attmept to find loopholes for your God to intentionally murder others is immoral....


Please don't paraphrase things that are said Funches.

Mark 12:17
17 And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. And they marvelled at him.


so God passed a law to crucify Jesus?

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Mon 12/31/12 11:12 AM





Murder - The unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another


so you approve of E.T. the Extraterrestrial killing humans

E.T. stop murdering humans and phone home




I've seen the movie E.T. but I don't remember him killing anyone.. hmmm.

Because God is not an E.T. He is not a terrestrial.

Terrestrial - An inhabitant of the earth

God is not an inhabitant of the Earth. Heaven is God's home.


didn't you also see the movie 'Aliens" ..according to you it's ok for Aliens to kill humans ...


Have no idea what you're talking about, sounds like you watch to much science-fiction movies.


yep, I saw this one sci-fi movie and it had a talking serpent in the garden talking to a lady and got her to eat some fruit...did you see that Movie?



God is not an alien either. An alien is something to a foreign land/area. This is not a foreign place for God. God created this world, thus again it is not foreign to him.

So what's your point?


Heaven is a foreign place....it's a place where aliens live...

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Mon 12/31/12 11:06 AM







1 - No it's not ok fathers to impregnate their daughters. We are only children of God spiritually, not physically. This physical body PURELY pertains to this world as it is now. We will not always have this flesh, this flesh is merely temporary we are not.


ok..allow me to rephrase...believers claim that it's ok for spiritual Fathers to impregnant their spiritual daughters with a physical baby .....spiritual imbreeding, spiritual child abuse...a lack of morals


3 - No it is not ok for someone to kill a group of people. Murder is murder. It isn't even ok or right for a judge to sentence someone to death thus then carrying it out. Murder is murder, doesn't matter who you are or what you call it. God is the only one that has the right to judge anyone for their deeds.


if you claim that it's ok for God to murder....then you condone murder ....a lack of morals


God does not murder, he righteously judges.

Murder - The unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another

God's judgement is lawful. So again, it couldn't possibly be murder.


as I stated earlier..you learn from God that Murder is Judgement...that would explain why God didn't stop the shooter


No funches lol, murder is not judgement. If it is a lawful taking the life of another, it couldn't even possibly be "murder", because again murder is the unlawful taking the life of another. You're a real funny man Funches, gotta love it.


well if you wish to get legal about it....then you approve of intentional manslaughter


What are you talking about now funches? Man slaughter? No Funches. Manslaughter would be aligned with murder. And again, that is unlawful taking the life of another. And God could not do this, for he is law, he is "God" the one with authority over us. God has told us the consequence for our disobedience, so it's not like a big surprise.


"Render unto Ceasar" is why God is not the law..and this is why your attmept to find loopholes for your God to intentionally murder others is immoral....

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Mon 12/31/12 10:59 AM







Sorry Funches, but a puppet has no desires, no wants. It automatically does what the puppet master forces it to do. It doesn't act on it's own, out of it's own desires. It's actually not even the puppet doing anything, but the puppet master doing everything even down to the voice.


yep, that's exactly what Jesus was doing

this is why I asked you for a passage from the bible in which Jesus did his own Will apart from the father ....this will prove that he is not a puppet .....

so ...er.. can you provide one?



Again what in the world are you talking about Funches?

Jesus did the will of the father on his own, his desire to do the will of the father. Not because he had no other choice lol.

What does one gain by doing their own will above another? They only gain for themselves, that is a bit selfish Funches. Do you only do your will and not the will of others?


Cowboy...all you have to do is provide "one" passage which displays how Jesus has a Will of his own and is not God's Pinocchio


Doing his father's will, was his will. Why would he seek his own? Why would he not seek the will of his father's? Jesus came to fulfill the old covenant, give us a new covenant, and to set an example. And is why he specifically came down to be in the flesh, to show an example. And not just specifically give us the commandments as an order, but to live the commandments out to show an example. He did his father's will just as we are to.

That right there is why he is considered the son of God. Because he listened and obeyed God's commandments, just as a child listens and obeys their parent.

Matthew 7:21
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.


Cowboy now you know that passage is not Jesus going against the Father's Will ....just admit that such a passage "doesn't exist" (no pun intended)

Jesus was a stepford puppet


No, Jesus never did go against the Father's will, never claimed he did. Again, when Jesus said "My father and I are one" The word translated into that is speaking of wills. So to go against his Father's will, he would have to also go against his own will, that don't make much sense funches.


if you can't find one passage in which Jesus had a "Will" of his own.....then sign the surrender papers

it's these Perry Mason moments that makes it all worthwhile

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Mon 12/31/12 10:57 AM







Again, has no reference to the Word. And does not say Jeremiah was with God in the beginning. Does not say anything about Jeremiah in the beginning nor any reference of him about being in the beginning in any of the scriptures. God did not create Jeremiah in the beginning. Please Funches, stay on track here.


God didn't create Jesus in the beginning....check the scriptures...you won't find the name "Jesus" anywhere in Genesis ...

Jesus like Jeremiah like everyone, was in the beginning "The Word" until they became or become seperated from God by being born in the flesh


The Word is a singular noun, it is not Words and is not referring to more then one being. The ONLY place it refers to the Word becoming flesh is with Jesus.

And again, show where there's evidence EVERYONE was with God in the beginning. I can show where just the Word was in the beginning with God and man/woman was created later.


Man is also a singular noun...and refers to a race of people ...therefore The Word refers to those not yet in the flesh


Aye, you are correct. But if you look at the original writings/scriptures, it translates into mankind and womankind more properly rather then just man and woman.


in that case "The Word" translates to "The Wordkind"

In The Beginning there were The Wordkind, and The Wordkind was with God and The Wordkind was God

either way everyone was there in the beginning as "The Word"..."didn't you always claim that "ye are gods"?





No it doesn't translate into wordkind lol. Again, you're a very funny man Funches. If you do not believe my statement of the more correct translation being "mankind and womankind" look it up and find for yourself Funches.


I did look it up...it states that God made "Man" in his image...so is the bible wrong?

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Mon 12/31/12 10:53 AM



Murder - The unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another


so you approve of E.T. the Extraterrestrial killing humans

E.T. stop murdering humans and phone home




I've seen the movie E.T. but I don't remember him killing anyone.. hmmm.

Because God is not an E.T. He is not a terrestrial.

Terrestrial - An inhabitant of the earth

God is not an inhabitant of the Earth. Heaven is God's home.


didn't you also see the movie 'Aliens" ..according to you it's ok for Aliens to kill humans ...

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Mon 12/31/12 10:49 AM





1 - No it's not ok fathers to impregnate their daughters. We are only children of God spiritually, not physically. This physical body PURELY pertains to this world as it is now. We will not always have this flesh, this flesh is merely temporary we are not.


ok..allow me to rephrase...believers claim that it's ok for spiritual Fathers to impregnant their spiritual daughters with a physical baby .....spiritual imbreeding, spiritual child abuse...a lack of morals


3 - No it is not ok for someone to kill a group of people. Murder is murder. It isn't even ok or right for a judge to sentence someone to death thus then carrying it out. Murder is murder, doesn't matter who you are or what you call it. God is the only one that has the right to judge anyone for their deeds.


if you claim that it's ok for God to murder....then you condone murder ....a lack of morals


God does not murder, he righteously judges.

Murder - The unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another

God's judgement is lawful. So again, it couldn't possibly be murder.


as I stated earlier..you learn from God that Murder is Judgement...that would explain why God didn't stop the shooter


No funches lol, murder is not judgement. If it is a lawful taking the life of another, it couldn't even possibly be "murder", because again murder is the unlawful taking the life of another. You're a real funny man Funches, gotta love it.


well if you wish to get legal about it....then you approve of intentional manslaughter

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Mon 12/31/12 10:43 AM

Murder - The unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another


so you approve of E.T. the Extraterrestrial killing humans

E.T. stop murdering humans and phone home


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Mon 12/31/12 10:38 AM



1 - No it's not ok fathers to impregnate their daughters. We are only children of God spiritually, not physically. This physical body PURELY pertains to this world as it is now. We will not always have this flesh, this flesh is merely temporary we are not.


ok..allow me to rephrase...believers claim that it's ok for spiritual Fathers to impregnant their spiritual daughters with a physical baby .....spiritual imbreeding, spiritual child abuse...a lack of morals


3 - No it is not ok for someone to kill a group of people. Murder is murder. It isn't even ok or right for a judge to sentence someone to death thus then carrying it out. Murder is murder, doesn't matter who you are or what you call it. God is the only one that has the right to judge anyone for their deeds.


if you claim that it's ok for God to murder....then you condone murder ....a lack of morals


God does not murder, he righteously judges.

Murder - The unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another

God's judgement is lawful. So again, it couldn't possibly be murder.


as I stated earlier..you learn from God that Murder is Judgement...that would explain why God didn't stop the shooter

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Mon 12/31/12 10:36 AM





Sorry Funches, but a puppet has no desires, no wants. It automatically does what the puppet master forces it to do. It doesn't act on it's own, out of it's own desires. It's actually not even the puppet doing anything, but the puppet master doing everything even down to the voice.


yep, that's exactly what Jesus was doing

this is why I asked you for a passage from the bible in which Jesus did his own Will apart from the father ....this will prove that he is not a puppet .....

so ...er.. can you provide one?



Again what in the world are you talking about Funches?

Jesus did the will of the father on his own, his desire to do the will of the father. Not because he had no other choice lol.

What does one gain by doing their own will above another? They only gain for themselves, that is a bit selfish Funches. Do you only do your will and not the will of others?


Cowboy...all you have to do is provide "one" passage which displays how Jesus has a Will of his own and is not God's Pinocchio


Doing his father's will, was his will. Why would he seek his own? Why would he not seek the will of his father's? Jesus came to fulfill the old covenant, give us a new covenant, and to set an example. And is why he specifically came down to be in the flesh, to show an example. And not just specifically give us the commandments as an order, but to live the commandments out to show an example. He did his father's will just as we are to.

That right there is why he is considered the son of God. Because he listened and obeyed God's commandments, just as a child listens and obeys their parent.

Matthew 7:21
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.


Cowboy now you know that passage is not Jesus going against the Father's Will ....just admit that such a passage "doesn't exist" (no pun intended)

Jesus was a stepford puppet

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Mon 12/31/12 10:32 AM





Again, has no reference to the Word. And does not say Jeremiah was with God in the beginning. Does not say anything about Jeremiah in the beginning nor any reference of him about being in the beginning in any of the scriptures. God did not create Jeremiah in the beginning. Please Funches, stay on track here.


God didn't create Jesus in the beginning....check the scriptures...you won't find the name "Jesus" anywhere in Genesis ...

Jesus like Jeremiah like everyone, was in the beginning "The Word" until they became or become seperated from God by being born in the flesh


The Word is a singular noun, it is not Words and is not referring to more then one being. The ONLY place it refers to the Word becoming flesh is with Jesus.

And again, show where there's evidence EVERYONE was with God in the beginning. I can show where just the Word was in the beginning with God and man/woman was created later.


Man is also a singular noun...and refers to a race of people ...therefore The Word refers to those not yet in the flesh


Aye, you are correct. But if you look at the original writings/scriptures, it translates into mankind and womankind more properly rather then just man and woman.


in that case "The Word" translates to "The Wordkind"

In The Beginning there were The Wordkind, and The Wordkind was with God and The Wordkind was God

either way everyone was there in the beginning as "The Word"..."didn't you always claim that "ye are gods"?