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I fear God and him only is my dread. His love however removes all the fear and replaces it with love, his tender love!!
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Edited by
uche9aa
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Sat 05/09/15 02:30 PM
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Millions die each year globally because of abortion and abortion related complications. It heartless to advocate for killing of babies, innocent babies. If your were aborted by your mother, would you have the chance to enjoy life as you are doing right now? Say no to infanticide
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Obama's speech at Nike...
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Living on the past glory. CHINA is already dictating the tune. Pride goeth before destruction
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Topic:
HUMANKIND NOT SO KIND
Edited by
uche9aa
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Sat 05/09/15 09:40 AM
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Everything have begining and ending,including "human kind". Worry not, the end of this old and worn out world is sooner than most people think. Self destruct/divine judgement is inevitable
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If I were to 'chip in' with a 100% simple and candid point of view, I'd say (without 'shame' 'hesitation' & 'embarrassment') that the 'biggest' mistake which 'a cousin of mine' made in a 'non-English' speaking nation, was: "He actually couldn't refrain from speaking in a tongue, 'other' than 'English!" He was so very 'obsessed' with 'English', that he went on to 'think' 'drink' 'eat' 'sleep' & 'walk' (besides 'talk') in 'English; that too, in a 'non-English' speaking country. Imagine...! 
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Edited by
uche9aa
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Sat 05/09/15 02:56 AM
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abortion is murder, the baby didn't ask to be put there and they deserve life. who is anybody to put an end to a life because its not convenient to them raped or not raped. if you don't feel you can love that child then give the child up for adoption, don't end a special deserving life. that is just my view. |
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abortion is murder, the baby didn't ask to be put there and they deserve life. who is anybody to put an end to a life because its not convenient to them raped or not raped. if you don't feel you can love that child then give the child up for adoption, don't end a special deserving life. that is just my view. |
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214 of the girls Nigerian Army rescued fron Boko Haram Islamic Terrorists from their forest strong hold last week have been confirmed pregnant.Apparently from repeated rapes (not that I am surprised anyway). My question is considering the psychological consequences of this,both long and short term,can abortion be justified in this instance? Both muslims,christians and all, your view another aspect to this is the accountability of the perpetrator... it is also genetically his child... how involved should the man be in this issue, short term and long term consequences and implications? but i digress.. in my opinion to your question... are the long and short term psychological consequences the factor for justifying abortion ? if so, then yes, it is justifiable... as anyone can justify their actions in any way they choose... other aspects can also make this justifiable--financial, physical, political..etc.. if you think about it, capital punishment for the rapist is also justifiable in this respect. but then again, this is also in the same way as the boko haram thought/taught that it is justifiable to kidnap, rape and impregnate these teens... considering that this is placed in a religious forum, is it justifiable? generally speaking, i don't think any "true" philosophy/religion/belief will teach that one should take another's life... as these teaches a way of life that values life, per se... as opposed to prioritizing the quality of life... so in this sense, it becomes against abortion, regardless the situation of pregnancy.. that being said, i do not consider the fanaticism used by boko haram as anything "true"...it is just their sad excuse to use a religion to justify their own needs... should anyone besides the person in question decide on abortion? i think not. although family/society/government can be "burdened" with providing a moral compass and financial support for the person in question, it ultimately becomes a matter of personal conscience and faith in the long run, the real burden and accountability is on the person involved. what is more important for others to do is to be able to provide these girls comprehensive information and support with the decision they are about to make. that would include integrating personal circumstances and beliefs of the person involved. it is sad enough that these women are subjected to the horrors of being kidnapped, raped, likely brainwashed and threatened by these people...it becomes worse for them if in their reintroduction to society, they will be further victimized by the dictates of society, and cause them more inner conflict due to the ordeal they have been through. two wrongs do not make a right. the bible says not to kill, it also says not to judge. compassion is key. whether these girls are true practicing christians, or muslims or buddhist or hindu or jew, or whatever...or whether their religious affiliation is just arbitrary information...let their "gods/God" be their judge of whether they are right or wrong in their decision. if they give due priority to their faith, then they will decide based on their faith, and they will be accountable for their decision, regardless what either one is. |
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CowboyGH - Insisting that your religious beliefs take precedence over the choices these young girls may make shows a complete lack of empathy for the horrors these girls have endured. They and only they should be the ones to make such decisions and frankly it is none of your business. I understand where you're coming from, you just don't seem to see where I'm coming from. - Is that fetus not a living being? - Does that fetus not have life? If either of those are a yes, then who's right is it for anyone to take it away? Even if the parent didn't intend to be impregnated for any number of reasons. That child's life is not a possession, it does not belong to the mother. yes it does, until it's an adult... your trying to force women to have babies they might not be able to afford, deal with, or even want... so much for god letting people make their OWN decisions... No it doesn't. A baby's life is just that, the baby's life. The baby is not a possession, a thing, or an object. Not trying to force anyone to do anything, if they did not wish to get impregnated they should not have been having sex. If it was from rape, can always put the child up for adoption. As life begins at conception. So again, how can anyone have control over if someone keeps their life or looses it especially when they've done absolutely nothing to influence the possibility of either choices? well, the law says your wrong... does god teach this baby or does the mother? if something happens to the baby, is god going to jail? is god paying for everything for the baby? Wasn't speaking of man's law. That living being inside a mother is just that, a living being. Weather it can feel or not, even if it won't ever know what's happening to it. Doesn't matter, bottom line is it's taking the life of another. That's why they allow abortion up to a certain amount of weeks, till then the fetus/baby wouldn't feel it. But that's not the point again weather if it can feel it or not, it's taking the life of a living soul. well, look at it this way then.... god abandoned the 200 GIRLS when he "let" them get kidnapped... god abandoned the GIRLS again when he "let" the POS's have their way with the them... now you say they should listen to god and not abort the fetus's because god doesn't want anyone "murdered"... me being atheist/agnostic says god lost his wants when he let this happen to them in the first place... if any of these girls want to keep the babies, more power to them, i wish them the best... and the same goes if any of the girls want to abort the babies... if i was a doctor, i would do it for them for free... |
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we are still friends remember.
'Certainly' Dude! We 'were' friends; we 'are' friends & we'll always 'be' friends! Keep 'Rocking'! 
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214 of the girls Nigerian Army rescued fron Boko Haram Islamic Terrorists from their forest strong hold last week have been confirmed pregnant.Apparently from repeated rapes (not that I am surprised anyway). My question is considering the psychological consequences of this,both long and short term,can abortion be justified in this instance? Both muslims,christians and all, your view A 'sensitive' human being (irrespective of 'gender' 'caste' 'creed' 'religion' 'community') would abstain from asking 'such' question in the very first place. A woman getting 'raped' is the most heinous act in the history of mankind. I feel 'very few' people in this world would ponder over 'whether abortion in this case, being justified OR not'; most people, would reflect upon the 'shame' that these 'rapists' inflict upon 'human-kind' in general. And 'Yes'; I respect the view of 'those' (here in Mingle), who have stated that 'it is NOT for us to decide whether abortion in this case is justified or not'.. Very true.. It is for 'them' (those 'hapless' women) to decide that.. The 'trauma' (mental pain and suffering) can only be 'felt' by them, who have undergone such an 'inhuman' ordeal.. So, to all the sensible (and 'sensitive') human beings (irrespective of 'Muslims' 'Hindus' 'Christians' 'Jews'............) I ask: 'Does such a heinous crime (and the effect thereof) leave space for 'us' to comment upon the 'justification' (or otherwise) of abortion (in this case)'? 
I (honestly) don't 'think' so!  Take it easy,we are still friends remember. And 'we' of different opinion from yours are "sensitive" .Ever read "thou shalt not kill"? |
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Edited by
uche9aa
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Fri 05/08/15 07:06 AM
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Its commendable breakthrough so far it does NOT imply or attempt to explain away visions,dreams and revelations from God as mere brain process
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214 of the girls Nigerian Army rescued fron Boko Haram Islamic Terrorists from their forest strong hold last week have been confirmed pregnant.Apparently from repeated rapes (not that I am surprised anyway). My question is considering the psychological consequences of this,both long and short term,can abortion be justified in this instance? Both muslims,christians and all, your view I say no, who's to say one's life is less important then another? And one can't call anything a "life" unless they've lived it. They would miss out on some possible hard times because of doing this, but they would miss out on any and all chances to experience love, laughter, happiness, excitement, and so forth many many more things they would totally and completely miss out on. what love, laughter, happiness, excitement, and so forth many many more things are you talking about? Time to set that infernal Book away and act like a compassionate human being for crying out loud! 
that Book some of you Guys are trying to foist on everyone! That's the one! Conrad, seeing that you arrived late to this thread, I'll spare you the trouble of reading its previous pages by repeating something that I said earlier: The Bible is silent on the topic of abortion. One might argue that some people are reading into the Bible something that isn't there. |
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Edited by
uche9aa
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Fri 05/08/15 12:32 AM
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CowboyGH - Insisting that your religious beliefs take precedence over the choices these young girls may make shows a complete lack of empathy for the horrors these girls have endured. They and only they should be the ones to make such decisions and frankly it is none of your business. |
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Topic:
Free Speech
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"free speech" has limit so its not totally "free"
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Time to set that infernal Book away and act like a compassionate human being for crying out loud!
What infernal book would that be? The Bible says nothing about the topic of abortion. |
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214 of the girls Nigerian Army rescued fron Boko Haram Islamic Terrorists from their forest strong hold last week have been confirmed pregnant.Apparently from repeated rapes (not that I am surprised anyway). My question is considering the psychological consequences of this,both long and short term,can abortion be justified in this instance? Both muslims,christians and all, your view I say no, who's to say one's life is less important then another? And one can't call anything a "life" unless they've lived it. They would miss out on some possible hard times because of doing this, but they would miss out on any and all chances to experience love, laughter, happiness, excitement, and so forth many many more things they would totally and completely miss out on. what love, laughter, happiness, excitement, and so forth many many more things are you talking about? Time to set that infernal Book away and act like a compassionate human being for crying out loud!
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214 of the girls Nigerian Army rescued fron Boko Haram Islamic Terrorists from their forest strong hold last week have been confirmed pregnant.Apparently from repeated rapes (not that I am surprised anyway). My question is considering the psychological consequences of this,both long and short term,can abortion be justified in this instance? Both muslims,christians and all, your view it should only be up to the women... they have to care and support it for the next 15-20 years... |
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Edited by
uche9aa
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Thu 05/07/15 02:10 PM
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Only the woman going through it can answer. Easy for men or wo.en that have never been through it to answer Don't judge until you walk in their shoes |
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