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Sun 10/09/11 05:22 PM


Ok, so whats with the daughters getting their father drunk and having sex with him?

Will I find out more about this later, or was it cool for woman to sleep with their fathers back then?


It was not cool. This was a bitter disgrace.

Genesis 19

29, And it came to pass, when God destroyed the cities of the plain, that God remembered Abraham,
and sent Lot out of the midst of the overthrow, when he overthrew the cities in the which Lot dwelt.

30, And Lot went up out of Zoar, and dwelt in the mountain, and his two daughters with him;
for he feared to dwell in Zoar: and he dwelt in a cave, he and his two daughters.

31, And the firstborn said unto the younger, Our father is old,
and there is not a man in the earth to come in unto us after the manner of all the earth:

32, Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him,
that we may preserve seed of our father.

33, And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in,
and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.

34, And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger,
Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also;
and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.

35, And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose,
and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.

36, Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father.

37, And the firstborn bare a son, and called his name Moab:
the same is the father of [the Moabites] unto this day.

38, And the younger, she also bare a son, and called his name Benammi:
the same is the father of the children of Ammon unto this day.[the Ammonites]


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I appreciate what Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary says about this act.

Genesis 19:30-38


30-38 See the peril of security.

Lot, who kept chaste in Sodom, and was a mourner for the wickedness of the place,
and a witness against it, when in the mountain, alone, and, as he thought, out of the way of temptation,
is shamefully overtaken.

Let him that thinks he stands high, and stands firm, take heed lest he fall.

See the peril of drunkenness; it is not only a great sin itself, but lets in many sins,
which bring a lasting wound and dishonour.

Many a man does that, when he is drunk, which, when he is sober,
he could not think of without horror.

See also the peril of temptation, even from relations and friends,
whom we love and esteem, and expect kindness from.

We must dread a snare, wherever we are,
and be always upon our guard.

No excuse can be made for the daughters, nor for Lot. Scarcely any account can be given of the affair but this,
The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

From the silence of the Scripture concerning Lot henceforward, learn that drunkenness, as it makes men forgetful,
so it makes them to be forgotten.




thanks brother ,i will only add this that God is a God of one programme, Gen 12:1-4 it was abraham God called meaning God's programme was with Abraham and not Lot but lot but because lot joined him, he also became partaker with abraham in the jorney to canaan according to God's programme for them(because he departed with abraham) and not sodom .
GEN 13:1-5 When he was with abraham God bless him also as HE blessed abraham (lession once you attach yourself to God's programme, HE will be programming your life too).
GEN 13:10-12 But it was sad that because of wealth Lot forgot they mission, the reason why they left Haran, he choose where to stay considering his wealth not God's programme again. Gen 13:13 Instead of staying with the man with-God's-programme(if you noticed God keep metioning abraham not anybody esle) he now dwelled with sinner where God was not.
Gen18:17 ; Gen 19:29 God didn't saved Lot because of what he was but because of abraham .
Now when God had saved him he supposed to went back to abraham instead of dwelling in zoar where God is not present.

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Sun 10/09/11 04:07 PM


I don't want to know about others because it seems things are getting worst in relationship, I mean in all relationship.... But to you how can someone have a perfect relationship or it's not possible? But if yes why?


No such thing as a perfect relationship bro. Sorry to break it to ya

but good to aim perfect

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Sun 10/09/11 03:50 PM

I found my belly button! So I just didn't know what else to do. waving waving

what do you mean by belly button?

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Sun 10/09/11 02:30 PM

jumper :

"ut to you how can someone have a perfect relationship or it's not possible? But if yes why? "


Why would anyone expect or even want a perfect anything ? Am in one now thats petty damn close BUT not quite perfect .So I am sorta looking but not really ..

though I believe when working towards perfect you get best....

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Sun 10/09/11 02:29 PM

jumper :

"ut to you how can someone have a perfect relationship or it's not possible? But if yes why? "


Why would anyone expect or even want a perfect anything ? Am in one now thats petty damn close BUT not quite perfect .So I am sorta looking but not really ..

though I believe when working towards perfect you get best....

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Sun 10/09/11 02:21 PM
Julius,jagua,jamaica

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Sun 10/09/11 02:13 PM

'Mission Accomplished', Tom Cruises final movie.

ahahaha......so this is how you see it but mission accomplished? Is different to mission accomplished....lol

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Sun 10/09/11 01:43 PM






Do you even have any clue what you really want in life?


all i want to have relationship .To live everyday, to share everything, do whatever we like and finally grow old and die.

so, do you truly believe that death is the end of your existence? happy


Yes it is end of journey flowerforyou . when we die there is nothing more. We vanish

just believe me after death there is life ,no one shall vanish

tell me what happens after death where we go?


well, we are not off topic because loveboatexpress create this thread for help though on other issue yet she brought this issue of vanishing after death.....
Now why did God created man? Can someone answer me?

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Sun 10/09/11 01:14 PM
Hogson,horse, holland

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Sun 10/09/11 01:11 PM

Imperfect people make up any and all relationships. That being said, it does not mean they can not be all you want them to be.

alright it means there might be naw perfect relationship and yet they can be what you want them to be

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Thu 10/06/11 03:34 PM
Footballer.....hmmm

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Thu 10/06/11 03:30 PM
Franca,frog,france

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Thu 10/06/11 01:08 PM







I really didn't have any expectations when I joined this site...but I found many valuable friends!

so no mission and no dissapointment


Oh no, no appointment's at all. I have been here 3 yrs now...and have met people from all over the world...some I've met in person...others I'll meet soon I hope. I like to think of Mingle as a social site, not a dating site..I have never dated anyone from here..but I look forward everyday to visiting with my friends and playing around on the forums.

you have to come and meet me too.....in nigeria...ahaha


HA HA....just a little out of my budget!

whaooo..... I have to amend your budget...lol


Someone needs to raise my allowance!

can't you raise it? ,only you don't want to come.

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Thu 10/06/11 11:06 AM



I came to JustSayHi now I am here to Mingle2

yeah!!! One of the old member but was your mission accomplished


Yes I said Hi and now I mingle.

but I want you to specify your mission

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Thu 10/06/11 08:05 AM

I came to JustSayHi now I am here to Mingle2

yeah!!! One of the old member but was your mission accomplished

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Thu 10/06/11 08:02 AM





I really didn't have any expectations when I joined this site...but I found many valuable friends!

so no mission and no dissapointment


Oh no, no appointment's at all. I have been here 3 yrs now...and have met people from all over the world...some I've met in person...others I'll meet soon I hope. I like to think of Mingle as a social site, not a dating site..I have never dated anyone from here..but I look forward everyday to visiting with my friends and playing around on the forums.

you have to come and meet me too.....in nigeria...ahaha


HA HA....just a little out of my budget!

whaooo..... I have to amend your budget...lol

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Thu 10/06/11 07:58 AM
Denmark,dog,daniel

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Thu 10/06/11 07:52 AM




Do you even have any clue what you really want in life?


all i want to have relationship .To live everyday, to share everything, do whatever we like and finally grow old and die.

so, do you truly believe that death is the end of your existence? happy


Yes it is end of journey flowerforyou . when we die there is nothing more. We vanish

just believe me after death there is life ,no one shall vanish

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Wed 10/05/11 01:35 PM



I really didn't have any expectations when I joined this site...but I found many valuable friends!

so no mission and no dissapointment


Oh no, no appointment's at all. I have been here 3 yrs now...and have met people from all over the world...some I've met in person...others I'll meet soon I hope. I like to think of Mingle as a social site, not a dating site..I have never dated anyone from here..but I look forward everyday to visiting with my friends and playing around on the forums.

you have to come and meet me too.....in nigeria...ahaha

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Wed 10/05/11 01:30 PM
Spirits of human

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