So, when a brawl breaks out anywhere it is the city's fault?
They 'deserve' it?
And without even a clue to their politics you label them 'violent,
liberal left wingers'?

I have seen Girl Scouts argue over cookies too..maybe a building
will fall on them for revenge.

Hate is natural.
Hate is common.
Hate is not healthy.
One can learn discernment without hate.
Hate is the extreme end of the scale.
One can be aware of the evil in the world without hating it.
Disassociation, disgust, anger, mistrust, despise and all the other similar words used to describe negative assessment are not the same as hate.

Hate, being a negative mindset, cannot yield positive results.
Hate has no compassion.
Hate has no tolerance.
Hate drive vengeance.
Hate seeks to destroy.
Hate consumes.

When someone thinks they exist in a constant state of love or hate they are deluded.
Life seldomly operates in extremes.
Thinking hate is beneficial is pretty twisted.

I'm as straight as a flag pole, but if I had the bucks, I would open a chain of bakeries that specialize in nothing but big cakes shaped like d^cks.

I'd hire people from that Queer Eye show to run them, and kick back and watch the money roll in.

How?

Because I have ears and eyes.

Who pays for it now?

Maybe it will be paid for by people NOT sitting in cages. How much does it cost watch the cages? Feed the cages? And it's doubleed bcause American citizens are sitting in kiddie cages. At the very least the cost would be cut in half by doing away with the kiddie cages.

First, that was only an analogy.

Second, Donnie likes to do what people call "dog whistles". Normal people don't hear it, but his cult members (a.k.a. his "base".) hear just fine.

It was inevitable. It was only a matter of time before one of his cult members acted on his orders.

What you have categorically stated is that love will not stop senseless violence.I do not agree with with that statement.

What you believe you are capable of and assert that I am incapable of has little bearing on the validity of your statement.In my opinion Hate is the antithesis of Love and one cannot love and hate simultaneously,I may be wrong.

If I say someone should be killed, and I keep saying it, until someone is actually killed...

I'm just as responsible for the death, as the person that pulled the trigger.

And so it is with Donnie.

I think I explained after the statement.

Who invented the phrase "fake news"? And will that stated more than once in his addresses to his cult, that "the press is in any of the people"?

In fact, you would be better off trying to reach the summit of Mount Everest without oxygen, then trying to locate any president in this country's history that has railed against a Free Press.

I don't know how it is in Canada, but in the United States, a free and open press is the only job that's protected by the United States Constitution.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born-citizen_clause

and that must lead us to the conclusion that every person born in the United States is a natural-born citizen of such States, except it may be that children born on our soil to temporary sojourners or representatives of foreign Governments, are native-born citizens of the United States.

Words mean things.

And to deport the caregiver (a.k.a. parent) of a nativeborn citizen, is akin to government sanctioned child abandonment.

Oh wait, Donnie is...

Nevermind.

http://www.bakersfield.com/news/mongols-affiliates-planned-bakersfield-attack-on-hells-angels-days-in/article_9937b484-6b55-11e8-b2ca-732e121b6356.html

Mongols affiliates planned Bakersfield attack on Hells Angels days in advance of fundraiser, reports say

Two days before a motorcycle wash fundraiser in Bakersfield organized by the local chapter of the Hells Angels, Ricardo Viera received a text message from an affiliate of the Mongols, another decades-old motorcycle club — and one of the Angels' biggest rivals.

"Light-em-up," read the message sent from the phone of Eliseo Ray Miranda, recently released court documents say. He also texted Viera, a Mongols member, a photograph of an advertisement for the event.

On May 5, Miranda and two other Mongols affiliates — Christopher Clay Wilson and Arturo Desiderio — arrived at the motorcycle wash in the 3200 block of Buck Owens Boulevard in one vehicle, according to court documents. Viera, armed with a pump-action pistol grip shotgun, drove separately to the event and parked near them.

Minutes later, a confrontation ensued that left Viera dead and two others wounded. On June 1, Miranda, 45, Wilson, 40 and Desiderio, 37, were charged with crimes including multiple counts of attempted murder and gang participation.

Bail for each has been set at $1 million.

According to the documents, the events of May 5 unfolded as follows:

Miranda and Desiderio got out of a vehicle upon arriving at the motorcycle wash and brandished metal objects as they approached and challenged the Hells Angels gathered for the event.

They drew several Hells Angels into a gas station parking lot where Viera was waiting. Viera got out of his vehicle and fired into the crowd. A person at the wash then armed himself with a handgun and fired several rounds at Viera, killing the 56-year-old.

Miranda and Desiderio got back into the vehicle they arrived in and sped off with Wilson behind the wheel.

Police arrived to find Viera's body in the parking lot, and two others suffering from what officers described as minor injuries due to gunshot wounds. They suggested the incident could have been worse.

"There were approximately seven potential victims who were in the immediate (shot spread) of Viera's shotgun blast," police say in the documents.

Viera, struck multiple times, was lying on top of the shotgun. Several spent 9mm casings were near his body, as well as a shotgun shell and a cell phone that fell out of his right rear pocket.

Investigators learned about the text messages from Miranda after executing a search warrant on Viera's phone.

Shortly after the shooting, police received a call from a man who admitted to firing at Viera in self-defense. He told police the gun he used was in the saddlebag of his motorcycle parked in front of his residence.

Officers arrived at the residence, located the motorcycle and seized the gun. The documents say the man, who police have not identified, had numerous items consistent with being affiliated with the Hells Angels, but police have told The Californian the man is not an associate of the biker club.

The man was detained, but was not arrested or charged as witness statements and video evidence backed up his statement to police.

About 2 1/2 years ago, Viera had a highly publicized run-in with Hells Angels affiliates on Rosedale Highway.

In January 2016, two Hells Angels affiliates in a pickup followed Viera as he rode a motorcycle on Rosedale. When Viera stopped at a red light, one of the men pulled a knife and grabbed him.

Viera produced a knife of his own and twice stabbed the other man. Outnumbered, he then tried to get away by jumping onto the back of a passing pickup.

One of the Hells Angels affiliates entered a no contest plea to a misdemeanor assault charge. Charges were dropped against the other man.

Viera was not charged in the incident

https://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/28/us/a-brawl-between-motorcycle-gangs-turns-fatal-at-a-nevada-casino.html

A Brawl Between Motorcycle Gangs Turns Fatal at a Nevada Casino



Three men, all motorcycle gang members, were killed and about a dozen others were injured in a shooting and knifing brawl that broke out in Harrah's casino early this morning among rival bikers attending a huge annual motorcycle rally, the authorities said.

Another man, apparently also a biker, was found fatally shot this morning on Interstate 40 just across the border in California, said Sgt. Chris Darcy of the Las Vegas Police Department, which helps patrol Laughlin, a Colorado River gambling resort about 90 miles south of Las Vegas. It was not immediately clear whether his death was related to the casino shootings, the police said.

The police said the fight erupted when a member of the Mongol motorcycle gang walked into a group of Hells Angels near the casino entrance. Sixty to 70 people, armed with guns and knives, were involved, the authorities said.

All three of the dead were bikers, the police said, adding that numerous people were arrested and a handgun was recovered.

Several people at the rally said tensions had been brewing between members of the Hells Angels and the Mongols, and the fight had resulted from a territorial dispute. It was most likely the worst case of casino violence in the history of the state, Sergeant Darcy said.
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The shooting came on the first night of River Run, the annual motorcycle rally in Laughlin. The rally has been held for 20 years and is considered by its promoters to be the West's largest ride-in motorcycle show, drawing about 50,000 participants a year. It is directed primarily at Harley-Davidson fans, which means it attracts bikers from clubs around the country, who come to gape at new models and to ride up and down the strip.

Until late yesterday afternoon, about a hundred gang members were still sequestered inside the Harrah's casino, being questioned by the police.

''It's very difficult to track everything down,'' Sergeant Darcy said. ''It's not as if this was one person shooting one other person. There were many, many people involved.''

Outside, the main strip was humming with thousands of bikers undeterred by this morning's violence and gunning their Harley-Davidson hogs as they rode slowly past the site of the melee. Only a few stopped to crane their necks past the yellow police tape.

Across the street, bikers sat under the temporary awnings rigged off their campers and RV's, as billboard-size banners for Jim Beam and Coors fluttered behind them and the music of Lynyrd Skynyrd and Rush providing a tinny sound track that could only occasionally be heard over the desert wind.

The sign at the main entrance to town was still flashing a warning not to bring bottles or cans onto Laughlin Civic Drive. Also at the entrance was a notice that anyone younger than 16 was under curfew from 6 p.m. to 6 a.m. The neon sign at Harrah's was still flashing the happy phrase: ''Welcome Bikers / 25 cent craps.''

The highways into and out of the town were closed after the brawl, which began around 2:15 this morning.

Denise Massey, 48, was gambling with her fiancé on the first floor of Harrah's when she noticed 20 to 30 bikers suddenly converge.

''Next thing you know you just hear 'Bam, bam, bam,' '' Ms. Massey told The Associated Press. ''All of a sudden they're running and just shooting at each other.''

According to the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, the Mongols are one of the most violent and criminally active motorcycle gangs in Southern California. Two years ago, the authorities arrested 29 Mongols on racketeering and other charges in Oklahoma, Georgia and California after an undercover operation in which an A.T.F. special agent infiltrated the club. During the investigation, the authorities recovered more than 70 firearms, including two machine guns.

Seven people injured in this morning's violence were sent to the Western Arizona Regional Medical Center across the river in Bullhead City, Ariz. University Medical Center in Las Vegas was treating five patients.

"Altar boys" indeed..

Lay the dead right at Donny's feet.

So you concede, that under certain conditions, nativeborn citizens can be deported?

Well thanks. But until those conditions exists in the United States, it's probably a good idea to leave the nativeborn (a.k.a. "anchor babies") and their caregivers alone.

Great Britain did.

Ever heard of Australia?

Okay, since all you are doing now is naysaying, there's no point to my putting any more effort into getting you to read what I actually write, or to recognize that what you are saying is flat out false.

You clearly don't even know what cronyism is, and just rattle the word off to cover the fact that you refuse to read what I actually write.

Last try: mass media outlets and other businesses behave like businesses. They don't behave like religious institutions, because they aren't religious institutions.

Expecting a business NOT to behave like a business, just because your politics or personal wishes are a certain way, is illogical. Nonsensical. But that is what Trump, and the Republicans, and the Democrats keep doing.

And you are doing it as well, and simply spouting random words and phrases which you clearly aren't using accurately, in order to deny that this is what you are doing.

To get back on Topic~~~~


I do feel if you open a business you should serve all that walk in the door to buy what ever your selling.. As long as they are respectful regardless what their out look on things that one might not agree with..

But for those places that choose not to, they need to be reminded that they could be in fact cutting their own throats on flourishing within the business market.

But with the way businesses are doing things today like refusing to make a cake for a gay couple.. Ya know even if you don't believe in their lifestyle look at all the business they lost over one cake.. It could have went the other way and they could have a booming business.. They made a call and suffered the consequences...

I know all have the right to serve who they want to all I can say is don't cry when the choice they make bites them in the azz in the end..

To many are ready to Boycott Businesses that refuse service anymore....

Obviously you have a very different understanding of the meaning of love.How can you claim to love someone or some ideal and then act in a senseless and violent manner ?