the bottom line is simple:

if we are the result of Billions of years of Evolution, and we technically are just on a higher scale of the Primates, we simply are still ANIMALS.

and if you took every Species out there and assembled them together, there would be a MASSIVE BLOODBATH between the Species because WE ARE ANIMALS!!

and therefore, IF WE ARE SIMPLY ANIMALS, then we definitely are not INHERENTLY GOOD ANIMALS BY NATURE, WE ARE MURDERS, WE ARE SELF ALIGNED AND CENTERED, AND THE LEARNED TRAITS OF GOOD BEHAVIOR WE EXEMPLIFY ONCE IN AWHILE ARE "LEARNED TRAITS," NOT NATURAL GENETIC TRAITS!!
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WHAT DOES THAT MEAN THEN?

it means, if you tell me you are a HUMANIST, (you are a liar), if you claim to be a good person (you are a liar) YOU ARE LIKE A DOMESTICATED CAT WITH BILLIONS OF YEARS OF EVOLUTION CRAMMED INSIDE YOU WAITING FOR YOU TO BE THE ANIMAL YOU NATURALLY ARE!!


so if EVOLUTION is how we got here, then NONE OF US ARE ANYWHERE REMOTELY AND POSSIBLY NATURALLY A GOOD HEARTED PERSON. SO PRETENDING TO BE GOOD WHEN YOU ARE NOT NATURALLY IS ABSOLUTELY 100% HYPOCRITICAL!!


by adding GOD to my natural Animal Self, NOW I CAN BE A GOOD PERSON without being a complete Hypocrite because only something UNNATURAL can make my NATURAL instincts become good.
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that is what God does since i am a product of Evolution, or just the highest Animal on the chain at the current moment!!

cool, i will look into that and thank you!!

and veda ancient maths are not math at all but formulas of mathematics and they are accurate.

they were thought to be magic because f you use the formulas, you get the correct answer without having to pen it down on paper or use a calculator.

in my opinion, hidden in the Egyptian Pyramids, hidden in South America, even places like stonehenge which reveals Ancient stone structures that literally are laser pristine cut and BEYOND the capabilities i have access to in my Gage (tool & die) Shop or any other Machine Shop(s).

i always felt that the Ancient Verda Maths, Mathematical Formulas, could hold some answers to Ancient Manufacturing. but no one has ever tried connecting the dots so who knows.

have you heard of the occult designating numbers for "Magical Purposes?"


long true story in short version:

to some degree, even non Believers kind of know the history of how a group of written materials became what is known as the Holy Bible...

in the early 2nd/3rd Centuries, when Nations became introduced to Christ and His views, some who accepted Christ obviously went bezerk and created war on the peoples who had not converted.

this also happened to THE great Society of Rome. and the leader of Rome at that time, CONSTANTINE, a non Believer, follower of the god Apollo, and his mother was the High Priestess of the divinity and roman/greco gods/goddess'.

Constantine knew they would KILL him so he quickly converted.

now, these are the things that supposedly happened in the life of Constantine's god, Apollo.

1. born of a Virgin
2. born on december 25th
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do these remind you of anything? SAME as Jesus (Yeshua)?

well they should...because...this SAME pagan follower pretending to be a Christian in order to not be murdered, led the Council in selecting which Materials should be in the Bible + he added his own opinions (maybe the virgin birth and born on december 25th)??

this is why i use the other materials, because how can someone not a Believer, suddenly be qualified to pick and choose what Believers should read??


***now back to my original question***

have you heard of the occult designating numbers for "Magical Purposes?"

the NUMBER 66 is a potent meant to discourage.

the PAGAN Constantine chose 66 BOOKS for the Bible (he CHOSE the NUMBER 66 to DISCOURAGE PEEPS FROM READING THE BIBLE).


just thought i'd add that bit of knowledge for you to feast upon.


but to your concerns:
of course mathematics will be used in all ways, good or evil..

MK,

i believe in coincidences indeed.

but the lottery is based upon algorithm (mathematics). so it is not a matter of luck, coincidence, God, it's a matter of being at the right time for the algorithm to take place. if anything, it would be by "Chance" to win the big lottery.

Tom,

having a flat tire, a car wreck, a broken windshield from a rock flying off the tire from the vehicle in front of you, a fly landing on your mashed taters after sitting on a pile of steamy dog poo, the list is virtually too long to list here...does not equate to the ACT of God, or God being involved.

yes, on life/death situations, i have found Him here and He does create miracles in this realm.

even having a flat tire has been the Blessing of God since the time it took to change the tire was the time when a 2o car pile up happened i would have been smack dead in the middle of where all drivers died.
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and yes, luck could even play here but i do not believe in luck. like the lottery. it's not luck, it's hitting the algorithm properly when purchasing your ticket. if you hit it you are going to win. if you don't then you won't win. but its based upon randomness, algorithm, and timing of the ticket sale. so it is a calculated risk win or lose and not based upon stupid luck.

but i see your point and am pointing out my speaking of God interacting on humanities behalf is not what non believer calls luck, but in certain situations, there is that point where you can find God if you choose to look for Him.

this is what i can testify to:

this is some of the foundational blocks i stand on:

the setting:
being raised to be Charitable in a Believer's household,whether living for God or not, we always knew to be helpful, giving to others.

the results:

1. what i have learned in my 50 years on this Earth by giving while being a Believer and while not being a Follower.

yes, both ways when i gave it seemed to come back in heapings.
yes, i had raises during both times of my life.

the basic difference i see:

the Benefits/Rewards...

the rewards that came back on my life as a non Follower vs being a sold out Follower were literally astronomical.

my raises are typically a dollar increment per time. my past 5 raises as a BELIEVER, have been around close to three dollars per hour.

in my life i have tested it both ways.
i have found and saw there is a big difference between the two scenarios.

others may not see it in their life, but i have, and it is something that has weighed greatly in my evidence building for God being real than not existing at all.

Literally within ALL Societies there can be found Believers of Yeshua. ironically though, not in all Societies can you find the knockoffs.


Grant it, today, everything can be found because it's all out in the open. but the Societies trying to thwart the Belief of Yeshua are struggling as it spreads like wildfire. but not all other beliefs spread like that in other Societies.

to me, that is quite revealing, because in the Nations trying to thwart following Yeshua, some kill followers of Yeshua and it is still thriving in the midst of being attacked. simply incredible and the true penetration of how God slips in to those wanting Him when others are trying to keep Him out!!

just because people read black letters off a white page don't mean they understand what those letters together as words mean.

just because there were wars does not mean it was led by God.

just because the South USA thought reading Jews were slaves so they decided having African People as slaves must be a good thing...but that does not mean it was led by God.

just because a Preacher says, GOD told me...does not always means that is the case. too often, it's what the Preacher personally believes and ADDS God said to it.

just because Christians many times judge does not mean it is being led by God to bring Judgement.



...and the thing is, those who know God and His WORD, they know when Preachers are doing wrong.

what we need is People willing to confront those Preachers with the"Tuth," the Church needs a thorough CLEANING of the very bad seeds that have maligned the Perfect Image of God.

i am not selecting one Society, we as a Whole Society evolved into the same pattern as the Greeks, because it worked and still does. and if it still works, it could be the same for Yeshua.

That is called "Common Sense and Survival.

i enjoy posting here because my Faith is challenged by several ideas that oppose my Faith. i am not challenged by something that causes me to rethink the position is God real, but i am challenged by where even though i am capable of doing so many things and doing them possibly well, it's after reading Your Independent and Self Dependent views that i am challenged to allow God to do what I am clearly capable of doing myself.

but then again, my creations in my ways have not always lasted, but following God's Advice, my creations are lasting and with no end in sight.

God is not completion, only Time it's Completion when you reach Spiritual exponents.

completion is a state of mental awareness and of sound mind. you can be delusional and still find this state of existence...

we use medical practices, law practices, civilization structures, and many things in how we live today are by following how the Greeks lived.

i therefore accept they claim Yeshua was real.

and i know of Yeshua as claiming to be God.

and i choose putting the Greek together and believing that Yeshua is God!!

and you might classify the unknown factor as a fluke, but i call it God.
and, i put faith in some of the Ancient Reasoning, especially the Greek views. they were thought of as leaders in open mindedness. thus why there are no hidden agendas behind their writings who they claimed was GOD in human form, Yeshua.

that depends on classification...if it's a miracle then you are wrong, in my opinion.

i copied/pasted the articles on decaying and will read soon.

thank you!!

from our viewpoint, the Universe is always expanding.
if God is real, then from God's viewpoint, the Universe is just following order of the Plan.

either way, we can only assume from our viewpoint.

its when our viewpoints don't make sense that we rely upon our own understanding. we choose to ignore the possibility of another Factor calling the shots. clearly, not a single human has ever made the Universe stop and consider them. therefore, it would take God to accomplish that...

99.9% of the trouble in your life is completely your own doing and fault.
it rains equally on good and bad people.
reaping will always sow if it's done by way of God or good deed.
but i am not trying to reap anything during this life, i have all i need and most of my wants.

there are things we do for our own reason, for someone else' (a boss), a friend, a spouse, a child, and for my life...what i do is for the purpose of God.

i would think, since understanding decomposition is a process through bacteria, that Science and Mathematicians would Formulate a scale based upon microorganisms. understanding their digestive systems, the relationship to time via consumption vs rotting, and if the bacteria actually speeds up or slows down the decaying process.


this would be a perfect find considering the dirt in your backyard, your worm tanks, your gardens, your dust in your home all contain these microorganisms. you could be in the ballpark using that Data i believe.

and yes, the Bible is a Book. but it is a Compilation of Holy Spirit filled experiences of the People who followed Yah. Separately as a bunch of "Letters or as a conglomerate group," those Books within the Bible contain answers to many things, including time, and age.

but, the 6,000 years is the lineage of David to the Messiah by way of Adam. it has nothing to do with the time elapsed before the Creation of Adam, and the Creation mentioned in the very first verse of Genesis 1:1...

Mathematics is inconsistent when using for skewed results. happens within Science all of the time. it's really quick and simple to know if a Formula repeats or not. if it repeats, it's obviously Golden. but generally, if it repeats, Mathematics is the purest way to Calculate the facts/numbers.

yes, there are only negative numbers when using the number scale with Zero being the beginning point positively and negatively.

but a number scale has nothing to do with aging by way of dating methods. most are relative to what the sample contains carbon wise, or by the method being used (uranium, etc).

i think dropping money here and there is an excellent way to share to the unknown.

i do it however it's instructed. i am giving because i know God gives and giving is something we should all strive to do and want to do. but i do it for a purpose outside of hoping they get a meal or two. i do by saying, God loves You and God wants me to give this to You. on several occasions i have gotten where they live at, some even have mobile devices and we text/call/talk periodically, and some i have taken out to eat or taken with me shopping or even to Church.

but i am placing a face attached with Almighty God to show He cares by way of using others.

many times we dig our own hole, but unfortunately, it takes more than just our will and desire to dig back out. this is when a good person, or God sends someone along to help.

this is all this is!!