Topic: Biblical Stuff Investigations
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Thu 11/14/19 07:46 AM
if there are things biblical that you pondered about that never get address or dismissed as being metaphorically or a mistranslation of Hebrew text when the bible suggest otherwise or something you consider to have been a miracle that happen to you personally, then place it here and it will be investigated thoroughly and unbiasedly ..well at least by me

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Thu 11/14/19 08:25 AM

if there are things biblical that you pondered about that never get address or dismissed as being metaphorically or a mistranslation of Hebrew text when the bible suggest otherwise or something you consider to have been a miracle that happen to you personally, then place it here and it will be investigated thoroughly and unbiasedly ..well at least by me


So what makes you think you are without bias ?
If you believe in God you are biased.
If you don't believe in God or miracles you are biased

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Thu 11/14/19 11:01 AM
The word bible comes from a Latin phrase meaning holy book, so a bible is simply a book of texts and writings that are sacred to the person who wrote it.

Which Biblical?

The Wiccan Rede
The Rule of Three
The Book of Shadows
The Grand Grimoire

These are biblical too.

Its all religion. If you focus on only one aspect of religion, say Christianity, you are biased.

Personally, I don't believe any religion.
Just because I might think a God does exist doesn't mean I am religious.

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Thu 11/14/19 12:18 PM
So what makes you think you are without bias ?

treat the bible literally stay within it's parameters with no claims of Hebrew mistranslations


If you believe in God you are biased.

the religious are commanded not to debate but to convert... funches 3;16


If you don't believe in God or miracles you are biased 
 
(NERD ALERT) you don't have to believe in Spiderman to ponder why the web comes out of his wrist and not out of his ******** (NERD ALERT OVER)

so the same can be done with the bible ...one does not have to believe in God to point out their personal ponderences or what might appear to be biblical inconsistencies

FOR EXAMPLE:
the bible reveal that the Messiah's name will be Immanuel nothing about him being named jesus which points to Christians following the wrong person...and that bible points to Jesus either being the son of Lucifer or Lucifer himself


Which Biblical?

The Wiccan Rede
The Rule of Three
The Book of Shadows
The Grand Grimoire

These are biblical too.

awesome ..discuss those too

Its all religion. If you focus on only one aspect of religion, say Christianity, you are biased.

not actually if that's the direction the discussion goes ..for example ..if someone claims that 1 god + 1 God + 1 God = 1 God and not 3 Gods the focus will turn to Christian math and Christianity

Personally, I don't believe any religion.
Just because I might think a God does exist doesn't mean I am religious.

it's impossible to believe in God and not be religious ... funches 3;16

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Thu 11/14/19 01:27 PM
it's impossible to believe in God and not be religious

I guess, if you are conditioned that way.
I'm not.
Perhaps it is impossible for YOU to believe in God and not be religious?

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Thu 11/14/19 02:57 PM

I guess, if you are conditioned that way.

one either have to be conditioned to believe in God or have a condition

I'm not.

let me guess you're not in a religion with God but in a relationship with God ...which is the same thing


Perhaps it is impossible for YOU to believe in God and not be religious?

a belief in God is the religion

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Thu 11/14/19 05:39 PM
let me guess you're not in a religion with God but in a relationship with God

Your words, not mine.

a belief in God is the religion

Again, that is YOUR belief, not mine.

I find it amusing how you try to classify me from your own biased beliefs.
Especially after you tell us you are unbiased.

investigated thoroughly and unbiasedly ..well at least by me

I've yet to read anything from you that is not biased.
You are a fraud, just like the religions you attack.

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Fri 11/15/19 05:25 AM

Your words, not mine.

actually it's common sense ..since you claimed to have a belief in God is the proof that you at the least formed a relationship with God within your mind or perhaps your delusions


Again, that is YOUR belief, not mine.

nope sorry ...remember you said that you share some beliefs with many other religions ..that in itself makes you religious ..also is one of those religions The Flying Spaghetti Monster


I find it amusing how you try to classify me from your own biased beliefs.

your belief in God is in fact you classifying you yourself ...otherwise if you wish not to be classified pertaining to religion then practice "Don't Ask Don't Tell"


Especially after you tell us you are unbiased.

How Rude...I'm simply posting the stuff that you yourself posted which in turn keeps me unbiased


You are a fraud, just like the religions you attack.

Temper Temper ...you claimed to belong to the church of Tom ...is the church of Tom and you also a fraud? ...the problem is that you failed to remember the stuff you posted earlier and then later on contradict yourself ...does that make you a hypocrite or a sufferer of selected memory perhaps

but anyway ...your belief in God and being a member of The Church of Tom (your words your Church) is the proof that you're religious

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Sat 11/16/19 07:05 AM
since "The Church of Tom" brought it up i guess it's best to explain why a belief in God in itself constitute as being a cult/religion and a symptom of mental illness

FOR EXAMPLE: In The beginning
when Abraham was about to shove a knife up his son isaac apse because a voice told him to do so was not due to Judaism but due to a belief in God which is why a belief in God in itself is the cult/religion .. that a belief in God would cause Abraham to harm his son or harm himself by performing a self-circumcision ouch ouch ouchhhhhhhhhhhhh is why a belief in God points to questionable mental issues

Abraham perhaps later called the specifics of what he was doing Judaism but it was a belief in God that caused him to do those Judaism type horrors not realizing that his actions due to a belief in God were in actuality symptoms of mental illness

and this is why it's impossible to believe in God and not be religious or in a cult or perhaps have questionable mental issues ... funches 3;16


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Sun 11/17/19 12:17 AM
Yet again, you inserted your own bias to twist words.
Church of Tom was like saying the world according to Tom.
It mean absolutely nothing.

You are angry and have little capacity for understanding anything not within your belief.
The fact you portray yourself as funches 3:16 exemplifies your need to mock anyone not believing as you. Do you think you are important?
Problem is, with all your responses, you have NEVER said what your own beliefs are you afraid someone might do what you do to others?

This tells me you are on a mission to attack any religion.
You fail to realize, I have no religion (I don't care what you believe).
You have classified my belief in a God as a religion but you are wrong.
The religion of Tom thing is an attempt to stress that I have no beliefs any religion can identify with. It was a phrase and you saw it as something else.
Context, look it up.

You read part of my activity on a few threads and think you have me pegged.
You are an idiot.
Try looking and reading everything I wrote at M2 and you will find I am consistent.

Obviously, your religion let you down sometime and you lash out in anger trying to ruin others belief systems.
That is the act of a child.
Grow up and try to learn how to accept others.

Personally, I don't care what you believe.
How come you can't seem to afford the same to anyone else?
Why is it so important for you to 'win'?
I flat-out don't care.

You win!
You win!
You win!
You win!
You win!
Do you feel better now?

If you think you can address me, you first need to read all my posts.
All 11,500+ so get busy, I'm ready.
LOL, I am laughing at you.

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Sun 11/17/19 06:30 AM

Yet again, you inserted your own bias to twist words.
Church of Tom was like saying the world according to Tom.
It mean absolutely nothing.

actually you said that The Church of Tom gave you peace of mind as a belief system should ...see even you claimed that you had a belief system and clearly you know that a belief system constitute as a religion


the fact you portray yourself as funches 3:16 exemplifies your need to mock anyone not believing as you.

actually 3:16 was a code in a sci-fi series I'm producing and when I join mingle2 the name funches was taken so I added 3:16 to it....er...sorry my bad


Do you think you are important?

..er..Yeah...DUH??? ....so is it that you yourself feel unimportant and that's why you need a belief in a God


You have classified my belief in a God as a religion but you are wrong.

actually your belief is a cult ...it can only become a religion unless or until it is first approved by the government(s) in which the belief will be practiced ..that's because those with a belief in God generally torture and murder those not of their Faith and some government(s) have deem such practices illegal


The religion of Tom thing is an attempt to stress that I have no beliefs any religion can identify with. It was a phrase and you saw it as something else.
Context, look it up.

but remember you said that The Church of Tom shared beliefs with other religions ..how come you guys say things then deny that you said it...you guys are worse than President Trump


Obviously, your religion let you down sometime and you lash out in anger trying to ruin others belief systems.

so how do you actually ruin someone belief system...is it when you suggest that perhaps they should think before they circumcise or genitalia mutilate their children


If you think you can address me, you first need to read all my posts.
All 11,500+ so get busy, I'm ready.

I'll tell you what..out of all those 11,500+ posts pick out one post that someone with a belief in God never said or conceptualize ...if you can't ...that's the proof that you belong to a cult and that a belief in God is a cult/religion

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Sun 11/17/19 08:22 AM
Edited by iam_resurrected on Sun 11/17/19 08:25 AM
wow,

you are highlighting some basic keywords and then formatting it must mean Religion/Cult/other?



ok


if i said


flies
maggots
smell


from those 3 keywords, am i discussing a pile of dog duke or am i discussing trash not thrown away yet, or am i discussing a wound on a animal (fly strike), or the description of the dead, or the description of Hell?


you're an idiot just like Tom pointed out!!

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Sun 11/17/19 01:02 PM

you are highlighting some basic keywords and then formatting it must mean Religion/Cult/other?

what I'm saying is that everyone that has a belief in God all belong to the same cult ...the God cult ..this includes deism, agnosticism, buddhism, spiritualist-ism and any other God related ism(s)


ok


if i said


flies
maggots
smell


from those 3 keywords, am i discussing a pile of dog duke or am i discussing trash not thrown away yet, or am i discussing a wound on a animal (fly strike), or the description of the dead, or the description of Hell?

since this is a biblical investigation flies maggots and smell would be of the plagues God reign down upon Pharoah



you're an idiot just like Tom pointed out!!

should you and tom whom has given your life and soul over to something neither of you can even prove exist use the term idiot other than for a self-description ...but anyway at least you two finally agree on something ...

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Mon 11/18/19 07:42 AM
Edited by iam_resurrected on Mon 11/18/19 07:44 AM
so, to you, someone claiming the existence of Yah, Buddha, krishna, the devil, whomever, all falls under the category of deity and therefore is the same classification throughout?

even if the others are called prophets and not gods, but only one said He is God, then even the Ancient Greeks wrote He lived, He was executed, He Resurrected, He Ascended back to Glory.

technically, that would break it down to 1 God and many Prophets of other Idealisms, and to put them together is incorrect because of the literal specifics to each view.

so i have to disagree with you on the putting all faiths into the same category. especially when it reveals many follow Prophets, and only some are following the one who claimed to be God. so only a few are actually following the idealism of God, the rest are following the idealisms of self made prophets.

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Mon 11/18/19 10:50 AM

so, to you, someone claiming the existence of Yah, Buddha, krishna, the devil, whomever, all falls under the category of deity and therefore is the same classification throughout?

affirmative


even if the others are called prophets and not gods, but only one said He is God, then even the Ancient Greeks wrote He lived, He was executed, He Resurrected, He Ascended back to Glory.

God knows the time of Judgement day yet the one that was supposedly executed resurrected and supposedly ascended admitted that he does not know the Time, therefore that person can not be God ...simple logic ....funches 3;16


technically, that would break it down to 1 God and many Prophets of other Idealisms, and to put them together is incorrect because of the literal specifics to each view.

the biblical story of the tower of babel helps explain that ...the believers no longer able to understand each other branched out into other ideologies but stayed committed to their belief in a God


so i have to disagree with you on the putting all faiths into the same category.

actually I placed all believers into the same God cult ....a believer can change their Faith as the Faiths are interchangeable but the one constant is a belief in God and this is why a belief in God itself is the cult/religion and anything beneath that falls into the category of worship and/or faiths






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Mon 11/18/19 11:22 AM
After reading this thread and due to all the attacking we feel this thread has run it's course.. Please stay on topic and do not attack others for what they believe in..

The Religion Forum has it's own set of rules that all members must follow..

If you can not keep it Civil then we ask you to by-pass the threads that you can not keep responses within the rules.

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