Nothing,I don't like them.
Now if I was being tempted with Ben and Jerri's
coffee health bar crunch..Well let's talk

If "pedestal" means I have no desire to get involved with anyone who is suicidal and self-destructive, then we're on the same page.

I just don't see the point in being with someone who values their own health so little that they don't care what they do to themselves. Granted, that's my own assessment, and my own personal preference, but I think the "pedestal" remark is misplaced and entirely out of line here. Is it being on a pedestal to want a healthy partner?

I have never done an illegal drug in my life, not even smoked pot. I also don't smoke and I don't drink. I dont judge those who smoke or drink, it's just my thing.

I also plan on waiting until I am in a very serious relationship before I have sex again.

I think it's great that you have good morals and it set's a good example for your daughter.

well i drink beer an smoke cigarette,s but i have morrales. is that rong ?

Ah but SHOULD it be? I for one contend it SHOULDN'T. And don't forget, medicinal marijuana is legal in some states.

Regardless of that, I honestly could care less if they say it's illegal or not. If I want to grow it, or want to use (though I never have to this point in my life), I will because it's MY CHOICE and MY BUSINESS. It's not the state's business, they can go burn for all I care with laws such as this one.

We are allowing them WAYYYYYYY too much power. One day we're gonna wake up and wonder where all our freedoms went, and you know what the answer is gonna be? YOU let them take them!

There's a quote from Gerald Ford that applies here, and it goes thusly:

"A government that has the ability to give you everything you need, also has the ability to take it away".

Think about that.

ive done my share of bads an goods but i dont believe erb makes people bad it may complicate life because of work but it is much better than the medicines the doctors give people these days.

don't feel sorry for me baby, I am not missing out on any fun, the only difference that I remember it in the morning, the ones were drunk don't.

And for the very last time I will say PEDESTAL .... stop preachin folks, people who drink and smoke are not the devil as much as you'd like to think they are....

Peace out thread.

Well you are certainly right to have that criterea. Unfortunately, almost everybody either drinks some or smokes some. Or both. Good luck......

its not just ,,,hobbies, like drinking or whatever

I see a decline in things like self respect, respect of others, honesty, integrity, loyalty(but not blind loyalty), empathy, consideration, respect for authority or elders,,,,,etc,,etc,,,


its just seems to be a growing one size fits all type of 'do and act however you want, as long as YOU are happy'....its like everything is self centered and nothing is about the UNIT anymore (the family unit, the neighborhood, the community,,,etc,,,)

I personally don't like to use the term "morals" here, because of the religious overtones.

But I don't drink or smoke and I have never seen myself as being on a "pedestal" for that (for other reasons, certainly, but not for that).

It's really very simple -- when you've seen as many people kill themselves via drugs and alcohol as I have, you understand that it's simply not a good idea to get too attached to people who willfully engage in self-destructive behaviors of that sort.

Call it a defense mechanism, if you like.

It isn't pedestal-based; it's really no different from my choosing not to get involved with someone who enjoys sky-diving without a parachute. The long-term prognosis for that relationship is not very bright, and one learns (hopefully) which behaviors to avoid -- and that means avoiding the people who engage in those behaviors.

OK seriously though, why is it that people who do not drink or smoke put themselves up on a moral pedestal?.... maybe that's why you're alone.

It is not fun. I deal with it everywere I go, including Church and Family. My Sister has been wanting me to drink at least one beer. A friend of mine said he wished he was in my shoes, and I could not figure that one out.

omg,,we are so on the same page with this one,,,,,I would accept single motherhood FOREVER to avoid lowering the standards and values I wish to raise my daughter with

having a smoke or a drink dosnt make you a bad parent. My Ex's parents didnt smoke drink or swear. And they taught there kids right from wrong, but my Ex still lost her morals

And if people "value" destroying their own brain function, well, that's their problem. I certainly don't want any part of it.

Absolutely. I've lost way too many people to drugs and alcohol over the years, and I refuse to get involved with anyone who uses them. But just try to find a non-drinker on a dating site....you're better off looking for a blue stegosaurus with a condo in Atlanta.