Never mistake God's silence for inaction. Even when it seems that He has delayed, He is on time, He is working and waiting for the right time to show up,to leave you doubtless that He's the one who makes all the difference in your life.
As you wait,persevere in prayer and believe that...Nothing is too difficult for Him...

Our Lord Jesus is always giving and does not for a single moment withdraw His hand. As long as there is a vessel of grace not yet full to the brim, the oil shall not be withheld. He is an ever-shining sun; He is manna in unfailing supply; He is a rock in the desert, sending constant streams of life from His pierced side; the rain of His grace is always falling; the river of His bounty is ever-flowing, and the wellspring of His love is a constant tide. (1 Timothy 6:17) #LightTheTriad

".....And no, people will not torment in hell. As I've shown before, come judgement hell is thrown into the lake of fire along with the beast and all that follows and this is known as the second death"

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Above is heresy! Mathew 25:32-46 is relevant. Verse 46 ends up with "Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life."

Nobody should get deceived about the propagation that there is no hell and that nobody will suffer eternal torment in hell.

Multiple scriptures (apart from the above cited) show that it is heresy. I advise EVERYONE to search the Bible by himself or herself; prayerfully and sincerely asking for guidance from God and the help of the Holy Spirit.

If there was no hell or eternal doom for unsaved souls, then there was no point for JESUS CHRIST to die to save humanity! People may just as well do whatever they want and then just seize to exist at the end of life's road. This is a deceit from the devil. The devil is excellent at deceiving hearts. The devil did it perfectly in the garden of Eden and is still doing it today - with those who give their hearts over to deception.

I appeal to everyone here...get the Bible (if you don't have one)...study it for yourself and pray for God's guidance as you read/study contents. Don't get hooked up by the posts of people...find out the TRUTH for yourself! God said in the Bible..."seek and you shall find..."

God bless us all. Amen!

Above is heresy! Mathew 25:32-46 is relevant. Verse 46 ends up with "Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life."

Nobody should get deceived about the propagation that there is no hell and that nobody will suffer eternal torment in hell.

"First thing, there is always room for repentance. Repentance = quit doing that which is in reference to. There will never be an end result of an eternity without God. When judgement comes, the ending results will be the followers of the "beast" will be thrown into the lake of fire along with everyone else that was not written in the book of life, this is known as the second death. Once they are thrown into the lake of fire, they won't be tortured for all eternity, they will cease to exist eg., this is known as the second death."
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The above is heresy from the devil....the devil always coins heresies and packages them so well and willing hearts fall into the trap and even magnify them into doctrines that they propagate. I hope no soul gets deceived here. There is no point telling people to follow JESUS if in the long run, there is nothing like eternal separation from God. This doctrine that nobody will be eternally separated from God is satanic and framed up by satan.

There is only one of two places to go- either with the LORD in heaven or with satan in hell. The human soul lives for ever. Jesus told His disciples that HE goes to prepare a place for them...that where HE is they may be also. He also made it clear that those whose names are not found in the Lamb's book of life will be thrown into outer darkness where there will be gnashing of teeth. The Bible also calls it a place of eternal torment.

Heresies are terrible and wicked because they deceive!!!!

The heart is desperately wicked and deceitful above all things...the Bible says. That's why our hearts crave to justify what God forbids and to find fault with anyone who tries to show us that God's word already condemns it. This certainly closes the door against repentance. The end-result is an eternity without God.

Hello all.

Reading through some of the posts here, I totally agree with sassyEuro2.

I also agree with cowboyGH except for the statement, "They may be attracted to the same gender, but that in itself isn't homosexual. And or what is sinful in homosexuality. It's the actions between the two that may follow".

My reason for disagreeing with that statement is connected to the position of the Bible on fornication/adultery. The Bible says we are already guilty of the sin of fornication/adultery, when we lust in our hearts without doing the physical action. It is the same here!

Don't forget that the Bible calls the body of the believer, the temple of the Holy Spirit. If the heart of a person constantly gets attracted to or craves after what God does not permit, it means something is already critically wrong spiritually.

It is strange that one reads expressly in the Bible, that something is wrong and still turns round to accuse a person of being judgmental simply because the person points out the position of God in the Bible. When God's word says not to do a thing, the condemnation is from God and not from the person showing the scripture verse.

The heart is desperately wicked and deceitful above all things...the Bible says. That's why our hearts crave to justify what God forbids and to find fault with anyone who tries to show us that God's word already condemns it. This certainly closes the door against repentance. The end-result is an eternity without God.

Hello all.

Reading through some of the posts here, I totally agree with sassyEuro2.

I also agree with cowboyGH except for the statement, "They may be attracted to the same gender, but that in itself isn't homosexual. And or what is sinful in homosexuality. It's the actions between the two that may follow".

My reason for disagreeing with that statement is connected to the position of the Bible on fornication/adultery. The Bible says we are already guilty of the sin of fornication/adultery, when we lust in our hearts without doing the physical action. It is the same here!

Don't forget that the Bible calls the body of the believer, the temple of the Holy Spirit. If the heart of a person constantly gets attracted to or craves after what God does not permit, it means something is already critically wrong spiritually.

It is strange that one reads expressly in the Bible, that something is wrong and still turns round to accuse a person of being judgmental simply because the person points out the position of God in the Bible. When God's word says not to do a thing, the condemnation is from God and not from the person showing the scripture verse.

The heart is desperately wicked and deceitful above all things...the Bible says. That's why our hearts crave to justify what God forbids and to find fault with anyone who tries to show us that God's word already condemns it. This certainly closes the door against repentance. The end-result is an eternity without God.

My reason for disagreeing with that statement is connected to the position of the Bible on fornication/adultery. The Bible says we are already guilty of the sin of fornication/adultery, when we lust in our hearts without doing the physical action. It is the same here!

Why would the creator of all things need to "divinely inspire" or otherwise commission an autobiography?

Why wouldn't the deity just insert the way I was to conduct myself into my internal programming?

Why would it be necessary to leave that duty to another human that could go about it all wrong, or render some arbitrary interpretation of words written in a language neither of us speak or understand?

These are the writings of men. You make claims of divinely inspired and I counter that inspired does not mean factual.

Why wouldn't the deity just insert the way I was to conduct myself into my internal programming?

Why would it be necessary to leave that duty to another human that could go about it all wrong, or render some arbitrary interpretation of words written in a language neither of us speak or understand?

I don't use the NEW KJV. Most 'born again/ saved/ Judeo Christians , don't.


* The love as yourself- is instructions for a MAN to love his WIFE as himself... & love thy neighbor does not mean... put up with,...accept or condone their behavior or anything else*


It is just... TOO early...( 6:57 am)
OH CUTE ONE...

Shalom

& love thy neighbor does not mean... put up with,...accept or condone their behavior or anything else*

Was it Mathew I think, who said forgive others their trespasses and your heavenly father will forgive yours.

I mean this nice Cowboy but you seem to have a real bee in your bonnet about gay people, which in itself is a sin.

will only be as valuable as the paper it's written on. God never permitted, instructed, or other with homosexual marriage. Actually speaks against homosexual's actions and only speaks for marriage to be between a man and woman.

Everyone who dies is dead, until resurrected by God. There are two resurrections. The first, those who keep the commandments of God, resurrected immortal, will rule with Christ for 1,000 years. At the end of the 1,000 yrs the rest of the dead are resurrected and will be judged.
Nobody goes to heaven or a hell fire as soon as they die. They are like asleep, until the time of the resurrection.
John 3:13 “No one has ascended to heaven but he who came down from heaven, that is, the son of man who is in heaven”.

THE WORD HELL HAS THREE DIFFERENT MEANINGS
#1 Hell = The Grave
#2 Hell = Gehenna = garbage dump outside Jerusalem
#3 Hell = Lake of fire = end time destruction of all who will not keep the commandments of god

Ecclesiastes 9:10
“Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest”.
Ecclesiastes 9:5
“ For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not anything, neither have they any more reward; for the memory of them is forgotten”
Daniel 12:2
“ And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.”.
1 corinthians 15;20
“ But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the first fruits of them that slept. For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order: Christ the first fruits; afterward they that are Christ’s at his coming”.
Revelation 20: 6
“ Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years”.
After 1,000 years , the rest of the dead are resurrected and judged according to their works. Those cast into the lake of fire are burned up and nothing is left of them.

Revelation 20:5
“ But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.”
Revelation 20:15
“ And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Mathew 10:28 “And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But fear him who is able to destroy both body and soul in hell”.
Malachi 4:1
“ For behold the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble; and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the Lord of Hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.”
Malachi 4;3
“ And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the Lord of Hosts”

Does the Bible Speak of
Hellfire That Lasts Forever?

Two verses that many assume prove the
wicked are to be eternally tortured in
hellfire are Matthew 25:41 and 25:46. But
do they? Let’s take a closer look.
First, notice the setting to which they refer—
when Jesus “comes in His glory” (verses
31-32). We are told that He separates the
sheep from the goats. The sheep represent the
righteous (verses 34-40). At His return He sets
the sheep at His right hand. The goats in this
instance represent sinners. They are appointed
to assemble on Jesus’ left hand. He then consigns
the goats to “the everlasting fire prepared
for the devil and his angels” (Matthew 25:41).
The word everlasting is translated from the
Greek word aionios. The key to understanding
this verse is knowing what will occur everlastingly.
Does it refer to a fire that tortures without
end, or does it have another meaning?
In Matthew 25:46 Jesus spoke in a single
sentence of everlasting (aionios) punishment
and of life eternal (aionios). Since the righteous
will be given eternal, or everlasting, life,
many theologians believe the punishing of the
wicked must last as long as the life given to the
righteous. But this cannot be reconciled with
the statement that those cast into the lake of
fire perish—they are killed. As explained elsewhere,
they suffer death—the second death
(Revelation 2:11; 20:6, 14; 21:8).
A plain and simple meaning of Matthew
25:46 that fits with the rest of the Bible is
that the wicked are cast into a fire that annihilates
them—renders them forever extinct.
The resulting punishment of being cast into the
aionios fire is a one-time event. It is a permanent
punishment, the results of which will remain
forever—that is, eternal death. It is not ongoing
punishing that continues forever without end.
This is the only explanation that agrees with
the rest of the Scriptures.
An additional point needs to be made regarding
the meaning of aionios. Genesis 19 describes
God’s destruction of two cities, Sodom and
Gomorrah, for their wickedness: “Then the
Lord rained brimstone and fire on Sodom and
Gomorrah” (Genesis 19:24). They were utterly
destroyed—consumed by fire.
In the New Testament, the book of Jude
describes these cities as “suffering the vengeance
of eternal [aionios] fire” (verse 7). Yet
it is obvious that the fires that destroyed Sodom
and Gomorrah are not still burning. In the case
of these cities and in the case of the wicked,
who are consigned to aionios fire, the fire burns
and completely destroys. But the eternal aspect
of the fire is its everlasting effect, not how long
it actually burns.

There will not be anybody suffering in hell, or anywhere else, in the new kingdom.

Revelation 21:4
“ And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away".

THE WORD HELL HAS THREE DIFFERENT MEANINGS
#1 Hell = The Grave
#2 Hell = Gehenna = garbage dump outside Jerusalem
#3 Hell = Lake of fire = end time destruction of all who will not keep the commandments of god

the threat of hell as a punishment ... is the worst kind of social coercion .. Aimed at bringing about a desired behaviour . ... Follow my rules and believe in me or languish forever in hell .. Lmao what would happen to religion if heaven/hell did not exist .. . no punishment/reward . For non-believers perhaps the concept of hell is not such a bad alternative

No sir!!!!

Hell is not a temporary place! That contradicts very clearly, what the Bible says about hell!

Yes, all men will be judged but once a soul's misses heaven, that soul spends eternity in hell. There are only two places and each of those places is forever!!!!

If god was so successful why is hell even necessary .. Just another form of social control.