not at all, its a fact, and you repeat it.

But no one has any interest in groups, because groups are only names and titles that carry no value to a society.

We want to know what those groups accomplished not a soap box litany of titles.

so what have those groups actually accomplished outside just having a name.

Trump has put thousands of people to work in high paying jobs that generated taxes what did Hillary do?


Like I said Hillary is a thug, even Gotti amd Geamconi gave little kids suckers. So what?

the mob operates on the principle of 'omerta'


Like I said Hillary operates precisely the same way the mafia does:

Just a sample:

Does the Mob Still Run New York?

Early in the morning of Jan. 20, FBI agents arrested more than 100 reputed mobsters at multiple locations in and around New York City. The raid brought down small-time soldiers representing all five of New York's crime families, as well as some heavy hitters, including the entire leadership of the Colombo family.

Many of those arrested are "past the age where they could file for Social Security," New York organized crime investigative reporter Douglas Century told Life's Little Mysteries. "These are traditional guys who grew up in the real heyday of the Italian-American organized crime scene." A scene that, according to Century, is slowly dying.

The Mafia (also known as La Cosa Nostra) has engaged in drug trafficking, money laundering and illegal gambling since its rise in the late 19th century. Drugs get the most play in the movies and indeed, drugs were big for the mob in the 1970s and '80s, until two major drug busts in the '80s limited its business in that realm but for over half a century, the mob's steadiest stream of business has been labor racketeering.

[Infographic: How the Mob Works ]

In the late 1920s, the five crime families of New York Genovese, Gambino, Colombo, Luchese and Bonanno divvied up their control of local labor industries. With union leaders and political representatives acting as their puppets, the families used public works to make billions of dollars for themselves.

Organized crime in New York has traditionally had a stranglehold on the garbage- removal industry. "Manhattan garbage was Gambino. Brooklyn was Genovese," Century said. In both boroughs, mobsters, who collected fees from the union, would order union workers to go on pay strikes, and then force politicians to acquiesce to the workers' demands and raise their wages. When that happened, the mob would then collect more fees from the union.

"Taxpayers would end up paying way too much for garbage removal, and most of the extra money actually went to the mob," Century said.

The garbage-hauling industry got cleaned up in the 1990s, thanks to NYPD detective Rick Cowan. He spent years undercover as a mobster named "Danny Benedetto," collecting the evidence that helped put away some of the top mob bosses in the business. Cowan's experience is detailed in the best-selling book Takedown: The Fall of the Last Mafia Empire," co-written by him and Century.

The construction industry, also traditionally under mob sway, is now coming clean as well. "Even 20 years ago, you couldn't put up a building without paying exorbitant prices, because all the construction companies belonged to the mob and all their bids were enormously inflated," Century said. Today, nonunion construction workers are common in New York. "In the past, they would have been killed."

However, law enforcement officials and local union monitors have not yet been able to wrest the construction industry completely free from the mob's influence. This may be because corruption takes subtler forms in construction than it does in garbage removal. "It's very difficult to prove that construction bids are rigged," Century said. "There are lots of companies that look legitimate but they're not."

The mob maintains its tightest grip on Local 1235 of the International Longshoremen's Association the labor union of dock workers on the Brooklyn waterfront. This holdout has thus far proved difficult for new, uncorrupted companies to break into.
http://www.livescience.com/32947-does-mob-run-new-york.html



this isnt funny, put one mob down and another takes control

harmony

Criminals bash themselves.

We only report it.

The best you can do is try to kill the messenger.

I have to ask what kind of person would even consider anyone for office much worse the office of president, someone who is nothing more than a common thug.

That is the precisely the way the mob operates!

Didnt see me cant prove a thing!
~Bart Simpson

Hillary's 22 'biggest' scandals

Does America really want more of this? Isnt our reputation bad enough throughout the world?


After the Clintons moved into the presidential mansion, the political scandals multiplied – from

use of the IRS and FBI to target political opponents to
stalking and harassing subjects of Bill Clinton’s sexual advances and even
attempts to loot taxpayer-funded items from the White House.


Americans also witnessed capers such as
Travelgate,
Chinagate,
Filegate and
Pardongate.


New developments in the Clinton Foundation scandals emerges almost daily.

How did $17 million disappear from Clinton Foundation?

“On the specific date between December 31, 2009 and January 1, 2010, approximately $17 million appears to have been diverted out


Ortel said it’s only one of the “several instances where I believe we can document that substantial sums of money, measured in the millions and tens of millions of dollars, were diverted.”

“The crime,” he said, “is an untold number of donors in the United States and around the world, typically giving relatively small sums, placed the money they gifted to the Clinton Foundation into the fiduciary care of the Clintons, only to have their charitable donations be diverted from the charitable purpose for which the funds were given.”

The IRS defines “inurement” in strict terms: “A section 501(c)(3) organization must not be organized or operated for the benefit of private interests, such as the creator or the creator’s family, shareholders of the organization, other designated individuals, or persons controlled directly or indirectly by such private interests.

“[IRS] Regulation 1.501(c)(3)-1(d)(1)(ii) states that an organization is not organized or operated exclusively for exempt purposes unless it serves a public rather than a private interest,” reads an IRS memorandum titled “Overview of Inurement/Private Benefit Issues in IRC 501(c)3.”

1) Clintons turn IRS into ‘gestapo’

During Bill Clinton’s terms in office, IRS audits were conducted against individuals and groups who caused problems for the administration. Several prominent conservative groups found themselves facing IRS audits following their criticism of the president and his policies.
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2015/05/here-they-are-hillarys-22-biggest-scandals-ever/#01ZVq5eJ08OCWwi4.99


2) Covering Bill’s dirty deeds

The Clintons have been accused of hiring private investigators to not only dig up dirt on perceived adversaries – such as Juanita Broaddrick, the woman allegedly raped by Bill, and other abused women such as Gennifer Flowers, Kathleen Willey and Paula Jones – but to stalk, scare and threaten them.



3) Looting the White House

When the Clintons left 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue in 2001, they reportedly vandalized and looted the White House. Hillary tried to ship furniture to the Clintons’ personal home in Chappaqua, New York. The Clintons came under fire when they reportedly tried to take $190,000 in gifts and furnishings from the presidential mansion. Additionally, the General Accounting Office, an investigative arm of Congress, reported that ”damage, theft, vandalism and pranks did occur in the White House complex”



4) Filegate: FBI files on GOP enemies

The Clinton duo was involved in a scandal known as “Filegate” in which they illegally obtaining FBI files on perceived adversaries, most of whom served in previous Republican administrations.



5) Hillary’s ‘Muslim Brotherhood princess’

Huma Abedin, who served as Hillary’s longtime deputy chief of staff and has worked with her for nearly 20 years, has known ties to the Muslim Brotherhood – a group bent on “destroying Western civilization from within” – and other Islamic supremacists.

a manifesto commissioned by the ruling Saudi Arabian monarchy places the work of an institute that employed Abedin at the forefront of a grand plan to mobilize U.S. Muslim minorities to transform America into a Saudi-style Islamic state, according to Arabic-language researcher Walid Shoebat.


6) Vince Foster’s 1993 death

Vince Foster was deputy White House counsel and Hillary’s friend and law partner who had connections to the Travelgate and Whitewater scandals. In 1993, Foster was found dead in a park with a fatal gunshot wound to his mouth.


the crime scene was altered and that major newspaper editors killed stories by reporters pursuing the truth.

Patsy Thomasson, who was in charge of White House administration – into Foster’s office to retrieve embarrassing and incriminating documents related to Whitewater and Hillary’s other personal affairs.


7) Emailgate: ‘She should go to prison for this’


Hillary kept all her official correspondence as secretary of state, as well as her personal emails, on a private email server located at her home – instead of using the government-mandated process while serving in the high appointed position. Her email system was unsecured for months while she used it for government business

On March 10, Clinton announced she had deleted 30,000 emails she considered personal.


8) Chinagate: Sale of high-tech secrets

Not to be outdone by her prior scandals, Hillary … masterminded a scheme whereby the Clinton-Gore presidential campaign of 1996 took bribes from communist Chinese banks and their government to bankroll the president’s and the Democratic Party’s re-election efforts



9) Travelgate: Always room for friends


the staff of the White House travel office was fired to make way for Clinton cronies


Hillary reportedly had the FBI investigate the former head of the travel office, Billy Dale, who was fired without notice and removed from White House grounds. Dale was charged with embezzlement but found not guilty of the crime in 1995. He was later audited by the IRS.


10) Whitewater: Jail for friends, but not Clintons

Whitewater investigation by independent counsel Kenneth Starr began in 1994 with accusations of impropriety against the Clintons and others concerning improper campaign contributions, political and financial favors, and tax benefits.


11) ‘Landing under sniper fire’ in Bosnia

“I remember landing under sniper fire,”
But news footage of her visit revealed her “sniper fire” claim wasn’t just exaggerated. It was completely false. And Hillary had repeated the claim several times, including during her time on the presidential campaign trail in 2007.

Rather, Hillary landed on a tarmac and greeted a crowd, including an 8-year-old child who gave her a poem, under no duress.


12) Hillary’s ‘missing’ law firm billing records


In 1994, federal investigators subpoenaed Hillary’s billing records from her days as a partner in the Rose Law firm during the Watergate scandal. The White House said it didn’t have the 115 pages of files.


While Hillary claimed she had a minor role in the affair, the Washington Examiner reported that “when the records mysteriously turned up in the White House in 1996, they showed she met repeatedly with key figures in the scandal.”



13) Pardongate: Hillary Senate contributions

Before Bill Clinton left the White House in 2001, he granted numerous controversial pardons – including to convicted tax evader Marc Rich, whose wife made significant contributions to Hillary’s 2000 Senate campaign and the Clinton presidential library.

Rich had been “indicted by a U.S. federal grand jury on more than 50 counts of fraud, racketeering, trading with Iran during the U.S. Embassy hostage crisis and evading more than $48 million in income taxes – crimes that could have earned him more than 300 years in prison.”

Hillary’s brothers, Tony and Hugh Rodham, reportedly received large amounts of money from people who were pardoned by Bill Clinton


14) Hillary’s cash cows and 9,987 percent profit

t was revealed Hillary – with no previous experience – had made massive profits from cattle futures trading between 1978 and 1979, when Bill Clinton’s salary as Arkansas attorney general had been modest. She reportedly made $99,537 in profit on a $1,000 investment (a 9,987 percent profit) in just nine months because of a highly placed connection at Tyson Foods, which was the largest employer in Arkansas and a big Clinton donor.


15) Clinton body count: ‘You find dead people

people associated with Clinton administration scandals who have died mysterious and often violent deaths.

The list was not just a source of terror among sworn enemies of the administration. It was an even greater terror for those close to Clinton – for those closest, it appeared, died younger and more inexplicably than those on the outside looking in. In his research, Bresnahan came up with more than one list.


“Not only did I find a list of dead people, but I also found that there are over 100 people who have refused to testify,” he said at the time.

“There is also a list of people who have gone to jail. There are 45 people who have gone to jail, some of them White House staff, Cabinet members as well as people from the Justice Department. So many of those (lists) developed when I started to pursue the big picture.”


17) Hillary laughs about defending child rapist

In the video she is asked, “As a lawyer, you defended the rapist of a 12-year-old girl, calling the victim ’emotionally unstable’ and saying that girls have a tendency to ‘exaggerate or romanticize sexual experiences especially when they come from disorganized families.'”

However, she did not address the reports of unearthed recordings in which she almost boasts of knowing of her client’s guilt and laughing about the case. The tapes reveal her discussing the case of Thomas Alfred Taylor, then 41, who was accused of raping a 12-year-old in Springdale, Arkansas, on May 10, 1975.

“It was a fascinating case, it was a very interesting case,” Clinton said on the tape. “This guy was accused of raping a 12-year-old. Course he claimed that he didn’t, and all this stuff. … I had him take a polygraph, which he passed – which forever destroyed my faith in polygraphs.” She laughed at the statement.


18) Hill ca$hes in: Iranian fundraising

Hillary received funds from an arm of the Iranian government and hired a convicted Iranian-American multimillionaire with ties to Tehran as her national campaign finance director in 2008. The Bill, Hillary, and Chelsea Clinton Foundation accepted $30,000 between April 2005 and March 2006 and another contribution of between $25,000 and $50,000 in 2008 from the New York-based Alavi Foundation, which U.S. government prosecutors have identified as an arm of the Iranian government.


19) Clinton Foundation: Scandals keep coming

the Clintons appear to have siphoned off tens of millions of dollars annually from funds the Bill, Hillary, and Chelsea Clinton Foundation has received from a United Nations-sponsored program

“Ongoing analysis of legally required public disclosures reveals that while Mrs. Clinton served as director, the Clinton Foundation and its principal constituent elements, filed false and materially misleading tax returns with the IRS and with other governmental authorities, for multiple years,”


20) Benghazi: 4 American lives lost

State Department emails show Clinton knew while the attack was under way that it was being carried out by terrorists.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and other senior Obama officials were given reports within hours of the Sept. 11, 2012, attack. In those memos, the DOD described details of a plan 10 days in advance “to kill as many Americans as possible.”

Nonetheless, Hillary falsely blamed it on “rage and violence over an awful Internet video”


21) Peter Franklin Paul: Another Hillary friend goes to prison

“Hillary is carrying out her promise to finally destroy my family to punish me for exposing the corruption that elected her to the Senate,” Paul told WND at the time.

22) Watergate: Fired for being a ‘liar’

The 27-year-old Clinton was fired from the staff of the House Judiciary committee investigating the Watergate scandal in 1974. She was fired by her supervisor, lifelong Democrat Jerry Zeifman, who called her a liar and much worse.

“She was an unethical, dishonest lawyer,” he said. “She conspired to violate the Constitution, the rules of the House, the rules of the committee and the rules of confidentiality.”

Zeifman also refused to give Clinton a letter of recommendation, making her one of only three employees he snubbed during his 17-year career.

based upon the evidence there is a much higher probability that she was fired than that she was not fired.

It also has nothing to do with his credibility, that is faulty reasoning of deductive fallacy. Sinply put the ends do not match the means.

there is no need, I dont verify what one quick click on google will bring out hundreds of pages, take your pick.

Oh yeh I forgot that the criminal Hillary was fired for unethical treatment of




Hillary was let go for unstated but obvious reasons, since employers cant fire someone and publically state the reason without being liable to suit.

Just what we need to make our laws!



now lets contrast Hillarys long history of lying about literally everything, failed policies, and 6 crininal investigations with trumps history

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwinpECzxoo

OMG that is Hillylarious!

After hearing the long list of her criminal behavior, now her obamacare crash and burn, (that she supports despite its a total disaster) with increases as high as 115% in some states, and now obama involved in her mishandling of classified material (emails),

and all on the heels of trump unvieling his new renovation below budget and ahead of schedule.

If she is coronated we need a team of investigators standing by and ready for the fun road ahead.

which is why it took me mere 'seconds' to dig up the corresponding law proving her actions are criminal, and you wrong.

thats your strawman argument, I never said or implied she was tried and found guilty.

It changes nothing, she did the crime but unlike other americans she gets a get out of jail free card.

more:


It is commonly understood that destroying relevant evidence after entry of a federal court order requiring its production to the adverse party will support severe sanctions. See Recinos-Recinos v. Express Forestry, Inc., 2006 WL 2349459, *8-11 (E.D. La. 2006) There is nothing in Rule 37(f) creating a safe harbor in those circumstances because the continuation of a policy that causes the destruction of evidence subject to an outstanding court order is unreasonable as a matter of law.

Spoliation of evidence is an act that is prohibited by American Bar Association’s Model Rules of Professional Conduct, Rule 37 of Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, and Title 18 United States Code. Sanctions for spoliation are preventative, punitive and remedial in nature. Separate tort actions are also permitted.

American Bar Association Rule 3.4 prohibits a lawyer from destroying or assisting another in destroying evidence pertaining to a case. Likewise Title 18 of United States Code Sections 1503, 1510, 1512 and 1519 prohibits a party from destroying or assisting another in destroying evidence, and provides for criminal prosecution against the wrongdoer. Under Title 18 United States Code Section 1519, a wrongdoer can be fined in huge amounts and imprisoned up to 20 years.

"not one has been found guilty"

your link says no such thing

when you admit to committing an 'act' [which she did] and it is that act that is the crime.

She even apologized for committing the crime :)

if you admit that you was responsible for taking your kid to a teens BOOZE party, you admit that you are guilty of negligence and a misdemeanor. I dont know where you can get away with admiting guilt without being guilty. Thats like really orwellian you know.

here again, hillary admits she is guilty and you call it unsubstantiated? I cant believe my eyes!

No matter how they want to stack that deck hillary comes out on top as the biggest criminal.

What I dont understand is how anyone could even consider voting for someone to run our country that if they were our next door neighbor we would have them in jail. trump might be an ******* in many ways but it does not rise to the level lawlessness we have seen from the clintion regime.

You cant be serious? Can you? If you are please run for judge in my county!! Give me 2 years and I will rule this town! LOL

But I am not asking for soapbox rhetoric k, I am asking for hard facts exactly what she has done. Anyone can set up a club and say they did all sorts of wonderful things, it does not mean they did anything at all. So I am asking you what she has done? The facts not the soapbox rhetoric,

(aside from being a psychopathic liar, that we already know.

Why would she apologize like any other criminal for her mistake if that is not an admission of guilt?

http://www.statenation.co/hstr.html

Need to hear it for yourself? Explain how you feel that is not admitssion of guilt?

My question is how on earth can anyone sanction a 'criminal' for president?

Oh?

What 'everything' has she done?