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Tue 10/12/10 09:21 AM






Yes Satan is the cause of alot of people's behaviours and actions, but never a reasoning. It still boils down to our own choice to either do the sinful action or not. Nothing can MAKE anyone do anything, it is still our own responsibility to do the right thing.


That's an oxymoronic statement. How can Satan be the 'cause' of anyone's actions if people always have the free will to make their own choices? huh

In fact, you continually accuse everyone who refuses to accept that the ancient Hebrews speak for God, but there is clearly nothing 'sinful' about disbelieving the words of a bunch of mortal men.

That's not the same as refusing to obey a "God" who actually makes himself known.

So until your God actually shows himself, it's absurd to believe that he would "pass judgment" on anyone for not obeying him. He hasn't directly communicated with them and therefore cannot claim that they refused him.

At best, in his infinite wisdom he could clearly see that all they are doing is refusing to believe the tall tales of other mortal men.

In fact, you reject the tall tales of many mortal men. Just like the OP suggests, "When religious 'believers' understand why they dismiss all possible gods and religions except for their one 'true' god , they will understand why I dismiss theirs."

There's no reason to believe that the ancient Hebrews had the "only" connection with the creator of ALL humanity. In fact, such a notion is actually quite unrealistic and unbelievable.

If there is a creator of all of humanity who is attempting to communicate with us, he/she/it would surely attempt to communicate with all cultures equally. To believe that the creator of humanity would single out a particular culture and political nation as its "chosen" people is unreasonable.

The very fact that these ancient Hebrews make such a claim is reason to highly suspect their religious bigotry.




Ab...You did the world a favor when you changed your mind, not becoming a preacher/pastor. Are you soldout for wicca now? or will you defect that too and choose another one this time next year. With observation it's plain to see you are wishy washy or euphemistically, agnostic. Meaning...you just don't know what to believe. You hammer away at the God of the bible hoping you will get some fantastic knowledge that you can run away with to misconstrue. If you had continued your study in the WORD and trusted and not doubted, you may have been blessed with some true wisdom. The LORD's true preachers won't defect. You cut yourself short. Truth is hidden from you. You have that "strong delusion" that the WORD of God speaks of.

"And for this cause

God shall send them strong delusion,

that they should BELIEVE a lie:"

2Thes. 2:11,


And no it's not an oxymoron. Let me put it in more of a everyday perspective that has the same concept.

You're sit'n with your woman in the car driving around lost. You come to a 4way. You have the free will to go right if you want. You may even feel that's the way to go. But you allow your girlfriend to persuade you to go left. So you listen to her and take a left getting further lost, when in the end you realize you should really have gone right.

She didn't "force" you to go left. She didn't "make" you go left. You willingly went left instead of right on your own free will.

So as you can see she was the cause for you to go left, but you could never blame her for getting you guys further lost for it was nevertheless your choice to listen and go left. So I ask you to go right instead of straying off to the left. Listen to your heart and hear the worlds our father tells you. Let no interference change your direction, keep on the right path to the lord.


So what you're saying is men shouldn't listen to women...or lefties.
Ok....
laugh


he saying that when a girlfriend nags it takes away "Free Will"


Vaginas are powerful persuaders...

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Tue 10/12/10 09:18 AM


Ab...You did the world a favor when you changed your mind, not becoming a preacher/pastor. Are you soldout for wicca now? or will you defect that too and choose another one this time next year. With observation it's plain to see you are wishy washy or euphemistically, agnostic. Meaning...you just don't know what to believe. You hammer away at the God of the bible hoping you will get some fantastic knowledge that you can run away with to misconstrue. If you had continued your study in the WORD and trusted and not doubted, you may have been blessed with some true wisdom. The LORD's true preachers won't defect. You cut yourself short. Truth is hidden from you. You have that "strong delusion" that the WORD of God speaks of.

"And for this cause

God shall send them strong delusion,

that they should BELIEVE a lie:"

2Thes. 2:11,


The mere fact that you'd rather crucify me, an innocent man, than to address point-by-point where you think I might be mistaken, clearly shows that you ultimately recognize that my observations cannot be contested.

Should I be surprised that someone who worships these biblical myths is so anxious to crucify the character of another in the name of religion? whoa

I get this all my life. I point out the absurdities, falsehoods, and contradictions in the biblical myth and people cannot offer intelligent explanations to counter my observations. So out of pure frustration they start attacking my personal character in the belief that if they can make it appear that my observations are meaningless then they won't need to explain them away. laugh

Sorry, dear, that approach never gets anywhere. That's the mentality that causes things like the Crusades or witch burnings to happen. Just claim that the non-believers are either heathens or that they have sold their souls to the devil. devil

If there's something I say that you disagree with, try addressing that topic or issue directly instead of climbing on your righteous pedestal and condemning me to be a "lost soul". whoa

That's absurd behavior in itself and just confirms my observations about what these fables cause people to act like.


Yeah. What he said.

(Now that I think about it, that kind of behavior reminds me of Republicans...but that's another debate...)

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Tue 10/12/10 09:07 AM



institutional racism is a real thing and not just some CARD that people bring up for some imagined benefit,,,


I absolutely agree. It is not *only* some card that is brought out, but it is *also* a card that is brought out.

Institutional racism is real. Institutional racism is also a card that is played in situations that had nothing to do with racism.





it cant be denied that the extremes exist,, those who believe EVERYTHING is racism, and those who believe NOTHING is racism

but what I evidence is that when someone MENTIONS issues related to race relations in america the point is automatically labeled a 'race card'


kind of seems like a ploy of those who wish people would just 'shut up' about racism,,,



Personally, I wish the only mention of "racism" was in history books.
Right along w/ people believing the Earth was flat. It is a stupid thing humanity should grow the hell out of.
We should all be delighted in our differences, not belittle others for theirs. Humans come in so many wonderful colors, shapes, sizes and cultures. This fact should be an endless source of wonder and delight, not scorn and prejudice.

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Tue 10/12/10 08:47 AM

Tonka, I usually ignore your comments for reasons I better not state, but this is interesting:


All humans have a built in instinct to identify with their own kind.


Maybe, but our own kind is 'humans'. Any genetic inclination we may have to identify with a smaller, closer knit group could manifest in a number of different ways - I think it ridiculous to assume that skin color or genetic heritage will automatically (without cultural influence) play a role in this.

Its a nice thought, though, for those that want to justify their racism.


In no way does that automatically make one a racist....lots of times its just what we do even without realizing it.


I agree we do it without being aware of it, but do to subconscious cultural indoctrination - not genetics.



They had them all mixed together. Then after several hours of being left alone, they came back and checked up on them, and they had all segregated themselves!!


And this tells us what? We can also find violent, forceful sex; brutal, pointless killings; slavery; and genocide in the animal kingdom. I don't look to non-human animals to decide how humans ought to behave.





:thumbsup:

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Tue 10/12/10 08:46 AM






My daughter said to me "Mom, how will Obama deal with all this racist hatred pointed at him?" I told her "That is nothing new for black folks, they deal with it every day" And she looked confused. Of course she is white and has no understanding of a person hating you just for your skin color. Treating you differently because you are not white.



wow, how old is your daughter?




23


love


She's married. And way cuter than me.:tongue:

As to my daughter not being aware of white prejudice, I never taught it to her.

I taught my children that people are equal regardless to race, sexual orientation, etc... She has been shown the hatred by others. She really saw it when Obama was campaigning.

She thinks it is important for people to like you. She doesn't understand growing up black and knowing people don't like you because of the color of your skin. Something you have no control over.

She doesn't judge by skin, she judges by actions as I taught her. She dated whoever she liked no matter what their skin color and she treated them all the same.

I am proud of her. She is an upstanding human who makes the human race look good.



congratulations, I feel the same about my children who have learned hard lessons about race relations but still manage to be happy, healthy,optimistic(that one was hard to accomplish,,lol) and loving individuals


:thumbsup:

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Tue 10/12/10 08:45 AM





My daughter said to me "Mom, how will Obama deal with all this racist hatred pointed at him?" I told her "That is nothing new for black folks, they deal with it every day" And she looked confused. Of course she is white and has no understanding of a person hating you just for your skin color. Treating you differently because you are not white.



wow, how old is your daughter?




23


love


She's married. And way cuter than me.:tongue:

As to my daughter not being aware of white prejudice, I never taught it to her.

I taught my children that people are equal regardless to race, sexual orientation, etc... She has been shown the hatred by others. She really saw it when Obama was campaigning.

She thinks it is important for people to like you. She doesn't understand growing up black and knowing people don't like you because of the color of your skin. Something you have no control over.

She doesn't judge by skin, she judges by actions as I taught her. She dated whoever she liked no matter what their skin color and she treated them all the same.

I am proud of her. She is an upstanding human who makes the human race look good.


:thumbsup:

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Mon 10/11/10 08:49 AM
Edited by Arcamedees on Mon 10/11/10 08:50 AM


Just really a general question. Is there really a god out there?

Look in the nearest mirror.

god is looking back at you.

he is with you as he is with me.


So...if I'm masturbating, it's really God jerking me off??

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Mon 10/11/10 08:46 AM



Some of u peeps make me sick! surprised scared


good.


Always gotta B a jerk in the room


Oh I am just so sorry.
I have a low tolerance for stupidity. I've been working on it but so far, to no avail.
Perhaps if you added something of interest to the conversation....

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Mon 10/11/10 08:35 AM

When it comes to the question of sanity, I must be a nut magnet, because my latest ex (not met online) was definitely not playing with a full deck. I have met quite a few nuts online now in the last few months and I fear that they must gravitate to me for some reason. I wish there was some way I could tell who the nuts are before I get involved with them. I guess even a nut can be manipulative enough to fool someone into thinking she is sane.laugh


Get a list of questions to ask that all start with,
"Are you now or have you ever been..."

And seriously, everyone is crazy to one degree or another. The trick is finding someone whose crazy you find charming.

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Mon 10/11/10 08:29 AM
Sunday, is the one day I'm almost always off work.

I "sin" alot on Sunday.
pitchfork :banana:

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Mon 10/11/10 08:23 AM



"Atheist Wiccan"

slaphead


There can be no such thing.

Theism is to believe in outer worldly spirits or beings that influence this world.

Wiccan believe this to be true.

As to the OP, there are some extremely smart theists as well as atheists. I find non angry atheists to be more aligned with my intelligence.




I guess that makes ME the "angry atheist"...sad ...shucks we need more of them. Imagine if most people were atheist we'd have had about 75% less conflicts in the history of humans. :cry:

If I rail I rail for the victims of religion and demand my fellow humans wake up and smell the BS before they take one more life.



PS: If an intelligent theist does not believe in evolution they have a screw loose somewhere...



In all honesty, often in history religion was used as an excuse for doing bad things. W/o it, bad people would've, no doubt, found other excuses for doing bad things.
However, you are correct. Humanity would've had fewer conflicts and be much more advanced if it had not the encumberance of religion.

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Mon 10/11/10 08:15 AM
Edited by Arcamedees on Mon 10/11/10 08:17 AM




Christianity like most religions are for people who can't think for themselves...


Am I right or wrong?



Statements like that are for those who have an inferiority complex.
I don't need validation, so ha!


Or proof. Or reason. Or logic. Or knowledge. Or brains. Or kindness. Or empathy. ect ect ect..
waving

Oh...that was too easy...sorry sorry....it's just so hard to not knock 'em down when they set 'em up so well...


Like the person who can't think for themselves and needs someone to tell him he's right?

Or the "doofus" that tries to call me a dance?

Or someone who is concerned about spelling and can't spell himself? (I can still understand what a person means with or without typos or "txt speak")

Your perceived "wit" is really non-existent and quite laughable. Ad-hominems just show how un-armed and insecure you truly are.

"Damn, I bet you really despise my words, don't you?"




Well gosh and b'golly. You really put me in my place, now didn't you.
laugh
whoa
asleep

And thanks for laughing at my "non-existent" wit.waving

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Mon 10/11/10 08:03 AM



My daughter said to me "Mom, how will Obama deal with all this racist hatred pointed at him?" I told her "That is nothing new for black folks, they deal with it every day" And she looked confused. Of course she is white and has no understanding of a person hating you just for your skin color. Treating you differently because you are not white.
laugh Are you aware that we live in the 21st century?



which makes it even sadder that INSTITUTIONAL discrimination still exists,,,

that when it comes to first time drug offenses black youths are incarcerated almost fifty times as often ( Human Rights Watch, 2000. Punishment and Prejudice: Racial Disparities in the War on Drugs. DC: May, Volume 12, No. 2)

that black males without a record are not as likely to get a call back for employment as white males with a record
(2003, The Mark of a Criminal Record." American Journal of Sociology. Volume 108: 5, March: 937-75.)


that black males are more likely to be stopped and searched for drugs than their white counterparts even though those counterparts are more likely to be found with drugs when searched ( Findings from the 2002 National Survey. U.S. Department of Justice, (Bureau of Justice Statistics), April 2005.


the list could go on and on,, institutional racism is a real thing and not just some CARD that people bring up for some imagined benefit,,,



Just one of the reasons I could never be a cop. I'd end up fighting with then getting shot by my follow officers.

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Mon 10/11/10 07:57 AM

My daughter said to me "Mom, how will Obama deal with all this racist hatred pointed at him?" I told her "That is nothing new for black folks, they deal with it every day" And she looked confused. Of course she is white and has no understanding of a person hating you just for your skin color. Treating you differently because you are not white.


It's a pity that anyone still gives a crap about something as irrelevant as skin pigmentation.

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Mon 10/11/10 07:50 AM



Obama was caught several times with his hand on his heart at the national anthem, imagine that??!!!

This is really old news and has been disputed several times.

As to racism, dating outside your race doesn't make one unracist.
Being white in a white majority country makes it really hard to understand racism from the perspective of a non white who is living it daily.

A country that has been teaching white superiority racism since its inception seems to have a hard time undoing hundreds of years of teaching.


Fear of the different is instinctive to the human species. However, w/ a little reason and intelligence, this very primative instinct is easy to overcome.
Why America seems to be taking longer to overcome this than most other civilized nations is a shame. I think it has something to do w/ having a war end slavery instead of a general recognition of the absolute evil of enslaving a group of intelligent beings simply because they look different than the majority of intelligent beings.


Freeing an oppressed people without changing the dynamic of the oppressors is almost an act of futility.

The south here is like stepping back a hundred years when it comes to race relations. They pretend to tolerate each other but the underlying resentment is always there. Their form of non racism means that in public they will interact almost civilly but in their homes or in their groups there is no tolerance for interracial interactions. There have been lines drawn and they are strictly enforced.


Yeah. I hate that crap. It's an interesting, and depressing, example of a socialogical disorder. It's based on ignorance and stupidity. The cure is knowledge and reason. Unfortunatly, knowledge and reason aren't held in high regard in much of the "south".

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Mon 10/11/10 07:38 AM




Yes Satan is the cause of alot of people's behaviours and actions, but never a reasoning. It still boils down to our own choice to either do the sinful action or not. Nothing can MAKE anyone do anything, it is still our own responsibility to do the right thing.


That's an oxymoronic statement. How can Satan be the 'cause' of anyone's actions if people always have the free will to make their own choices? huh

In fact, you continually accuse everyone who refuses to accept that the ancient Hebrews speak for God, but there is clearly nothing 'sinful' about disbelieving the words of a bunch of mortal men.

That's not the same as refusing to obey a "God" who actually makes himself known.

So until your God actually shows himself, it's absurd to believe that he would "pass judgment" on anyone for not obeying him. He hasn't directly communicated with them and therefore cannot claim that they refused him.

At best, in his infinite wisdom he could clearly see that all they are doing is refusing to believe the tall tales of other mortal men.

In fact, you reject the tall tales of many mortal men. Just like the OP suggests, "When religious 'believers' understand why they dismiss all possible gods and religions except for their one 'true' god , they will understand why I dismiss theirs."

There's no reason to believe that the ancient Hebrews had the "only" connection with the creator of ALL humanity. In fact, such a notion is actually quite unrealistic and unbelievable.

If there is a creator of all of humanity who is attempting to communicate with us, he/she/it would surely attempt to communicate with all cultures equally. To believe that the creator of humanity would single out a particular culture and political nation as its "chosen" people is unreasonable.

The very fact that these ancient Hebrews make such a claim is reason to highly suspect their religious bigotry.




Ab...You did the world a favor when you changed your mind, not becoming a preacher/pastor. Are you soldout for wicca now? or will you defect that too and choose another one this time next year. With observation it's plain to see you are wishy washy or euphemistically, agnostic. Meaning...you just don't know what to believe. You hammer away at the God of the bible hoping you will get some fantastic knowledge that you can run away with to misconstrue. If you had continued your study in the WORD and trusted and not doubted, you may have been blessed with some true wisdom. The LORD's true preachers won't defect. You cut yourself short. Truth is hidden from you. You have that "strong delusion" that the WORD of God speaks of.

"And for this cause

God shall send them strong delusion,

that they should BELIEVE a lie:"

2Thes. 2:11,


And no it's not an oxymoron. Let me put it in more of a everyday perspective that has the same concept.

You're sit'n with your woman in the car driving around lost. You come to a 4way. You have the free will to go right if you want. You may even feel that's the way to go. But you allow your girlfriend to persuade you to go left. So you listen to her and take a left getting further lost, when in the end you realize you should really have gone right.

She didn't "force" you to go left. She didn't "make" you go left. You willingly went left instead of right on your own free will.

So as you can see she was the cause for you to go left, but you could never blame her for getting you guys further lost for it was nevertheless your choice to listen and go left. So I ask you to go right instead of straying off to the left. Listen to your heart and hear the worlds our father tells you. Let no interference change your direction, keep on the right path to the lord.


So what you're saying is men shouldn't listen to women...or lefties.
Ok....
laugh

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Mon 10/11/10 07:33 AM

Some of u peeps make me sick! surprised scared


good.

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Sun 10/10/10 12:31 PM
Edited by Arcamedees on Sun 10/10/10 12:34 PM

Obama was caught several times with his hand on his heart at the national anthem, imagine that??!!!

This is really old news and has been disputed several times.

As to racism, dating outside your race doesn't make one unracist.
Being white in a white majority country makes it really hard to understand racism from the perspective of a non white who is living it daily.

A country that has been teaching white superiority racism since its inception seems to have a hard time undoing hundreds of years of teaching.


Fear of the different is instinctive to the human species. However, w/ a little reason and intelligence, this very primative instinct is easy to overcome.
Why America seems to be taking longer to overcome this than most other civilized nations is a shame. I think it has something to do w/ having a war end slavery instead of a general recognition of the absolute evil of enslaving a group of intelligent beings simply because they look different than the majority of intelligent beings.

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Sun 10/10/10 12:05 PM



I have found that online dating is just like life and society in general. People are constantly trying to see what they can get away with and common courtesy is uncommon at best. There are scammers aplenty and quite a few flakes, weirdos, and wackos out there as well. One truly has to be careful and at the same time, never get discouraged. Sometimes I think I'm a glutton for punishment for trying online dating in the first place, however I cling to a small hope that it all pans out in the end.


Unless your standards are low are very broad, I'm thinking online dating gives you a better shot, as it were, than picking up a random stranger at a bar.


It's a mixed blessing, Undoubtedly, online dating gives you exposure to countless numbers of people who would otherwise never knew you existed, and vice versa. Unfortunately, the vast majority of those people are much too far away to have any practical impact on one's actual dating life.

The other downside is that few people have the skills to communicate effectively within the context of a written medium. Even fewer have the skills to communicate honestly, or so it seems.



Welcome to the world. Most people here, on Earth, have those problems.
Still, online, I think one has a better shot at meeting someone who doesn't have diametrically opposed viewpoints on critical subjects.
However, nothing is foolproof. I once dated a woman from online. Everything was going great---until she found out I had (gasp) cats. And worse, I let them get on a table. A table I used for nothing except to let cats get on it, but that didn't matter. It was a dealbreaker for her. People are strange.

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Sun 10/10/10 11:45 AM


Christianity like most religions are for people who can't think for themselves...


Am I right or wrong?



Statements like that are for those who have an inferiority complex.
I don't need validation, so ha!


Or proof. Or reason. Or logic. Or knowledge. Or brains. Or kindness. Or empathy. ect ect ect..
waving

Oh...that was too easy...sorry sorry....it's just so hard to not knock 'em down when they set 'em up so well...

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