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Funches ~~ what is really funny to me is that you do not see you are directly making my point. I say I do not hold in myself the right to judge others, and you call calling into question what is in the hearts and minds of others "self-preservation". so are you saying that you haven't the right to self-protection, in other words every person you meet you have to make a judgement call about them it's called instincts and are a part of human nature call self-preservation ..so are you saying you lack this Over and over again, you assume what I mean and you judge that assumption. Really, it is cracking me up. Lilith it's call a debate...you give your point of view because it is your judgement and I give my point of view or do you wish that everyone agree with everything you say ..if you don't expect everyone to agree with you then it's called a Debate or if it is someone you are married to then it's called an argument |
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see funches...you DO twist words....told ya
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so are you saying that you haven't the right to self-protection, in other words every person you meet you have to make a judgement call about them it's called instincts and are a part of human nature call self-preservation ..so are you saying you lack this Lilith it's call a debate...you give your point of view because it is your judgement and I give my point of view or do you wish that everyone agree with everything you say ..if you don't expect everyone to agree with you then it's called a Debate or if it is someone you are married to then it's called an argument A debate is an objective exchange of views. It calls for no assumption or expectations that a person is "right" or "wrong". I do not expect people to agree with me, but rather I expect others to not assume what I mean based on their own views. Debates are objective, Funches. My impressions of others are not called judgments. They are observations based on statements and behaviors. My instincts here are not the point. It is your assumptions based on my statements here that is my point. I made no assumptions about your beliefs. Yet you did....against what you assumed mine to be. |
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<---knew lilth could handle her own very nicely
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see funches...you DO twist words....told ya wow "yellowrose" you say I twist words look at what "Lilith" is trying to do ..you will see what I mean after I untwist them |
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If you go into defensive stance.... I think that might possibly mean I hit on a nerve.
I really have nothing further to discuss with you, Funches. It is circular for you and I'm so not into rotaries. I'm sorry to disappoint you, but nothing you can say further would entice me to engage you any more on this topic. I have my beliefs and you have yours. I'll never try to say yours are wrong or right, because they belong to you. Have a great day. 
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What I think about the notion that people actually believe that 'God' has answered their prayers.
1.) It unmistakenly implies that 'God' can and has acted upon a human's life in some way. Divine intervention. This implication brings up some one very serious question... 2.) What then, would constitute the justification of it's necessity? |
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A debate is an objective exchange of views. It calls for no assumption or expectations that a person is "right" or "wrong". when someone gives their "view" or opinoin it's because they may perceives or judge it as possibly being right ..or "Lilith" are you saying that you debate your beliefs because you think they are wrong I do not expect people to agree with me, but rather I expect others to not assume what I mean based on their own views. Debates are objective, Funches. Debates are "Objective"? ..oh oh that's one of those pesty logic words......here's a lesson in logic 101 ..when people use the word subjective objective paradox or fallacy...they have no argument .. My impressions of others are not called judgments. They are observations based on statements and behaviors. not explain why that's not the same thing as making a judgement call My instincts here are not the point. It is your assumptions based on my statements here that is my point. I made no assumptions about your beliefs. Yet you did....against what you assumed mine to be. instincts are always the point unless one exist in ignorant bliss...you use instincts and make assumptions for practicely everything we do in life .. |
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<---knew lilth could handle her own very nicely well "yellowrose" if appears you spoke too soon ...imagine if Jesus gave up that fast |
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I really have nothing further to discuss with you, Funches. It is circular for you and I'm so not into rotaries. I'm sorry to disappoint you, but nothing you can say further would entice me to engage you any more on this topic. sorry you feel that way "Lilith" but ..er..what if next time I promise to agree with everything you say |
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Edited by
MorningSong
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Sat 03/22/08 12:49 PM
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Does Prayer work?
Why of couse..... I was praying that LOTS and LOTS MORE Laughter and Sparkle would "spring up " in the Christian forums..and lo and behold... Yellow Rose " blossoms forth" upon the scene... 
See? Prayer works.....
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"Aerodynamically, the bumble bee shouldn't be able to fly, but the bumble bee doesn't know it so it goes on flying anyway."
Mary Kay Ash In other words...if science say the bumble bee can't fly and does anyway...anything is possible |
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OK this is for a certain person to debate the question the question would be...Do prayers work, for what and how long? in other words...why does it seem God doesn't answer prayers fo some that really need it...and for others for small things make sense? Yes, I believe that prayers work for many reasons, not just as a simple answer to the prayer. Sometimes it may take a while (many years) for a prayer to be answered. I believe it is being answered, it just takes time to unfold. Other times we may not recognize the answer as such, because it is not quite what we expected, or wanted, but it is what was best for us. And sometimes the answer may well be no, again there is a good reason, one we may not understand fully, but in God's time one which we may accept and be at peace. 
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if god is love and his will is just then why cant it be enough to accept his work through you and just love him back... must your affections and obedience be bought with trinkets and the fulfillment of wishes
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Yes God answers prayers.Prayer changes everything,but I'm wondering,are you only praying when you want something?Are you praying daily?Are you really praying wanting God's Will or just your own will?God answers prayer three different ways and I hope that your open to this,because its true.God sometimes says no.Other times God says yes.And when you hear nothing from him,he wants you to wait on Him.Wait on God's timing and His will and don't follow your own selfish desires.Thats truth for you and I hope that helps you.Sincerely In Christ,Rose
P.S.Read The Prayer that Changes Everything,written by Stormie Omartian.Great Book on Prayer,if your really seeking answers and prayers.This is a great Christian book on prayer. |
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"Aerodynamically, the bumble bee shouldn't be able to fly, but the bumble bee doesn't know it so it goes on flying anyway."
Mary Kay Ash In other words...if science say the bumble bee can't fly and does anyway...anything is possible Just a note about science. This particular (very popular item) has long since been put to sleep by science. Bumble bees don’t fly, they swim! That’s right. Because of the mass, density, body shape, and size of the Bumble Bee, air is more like water to the bee. It’s actually swimming in air rather than flying it in. Same is true of humming birds. Humming birds don’t fly when they hover, they ‘swim’. However, once they take off in a straight path and gain enough speed they actually do then ‘fly’ at higher speeds. So humming birds both swim and fly in air. Just thought I’d clear that up for anyone who's interested. 
The Bumble Bee isn’t breaking any of the laws of physics. And neither is the Humming Bird. They are not scientific mysteries. That’s a farce. |
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for the love of........
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for the love of........ For the love of hummingbirds that swim in the air and the bumbling bumble bees that flutter with flair I wish I may, I wish I might have the prayer I pray tonight Oh Lord won’t you buy me some mind-blowing sex! I haven’t had an orgasm since I dumped on my ex my vibrator’s down and the batteries died If I get the Gal pregnant I’ll make her my bride! 
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OK this is for a certain person to debate the question the question would be...Do prayers work, for what and how long? in other words...why does it seem God doesn't answer prayers fo some that really need it...and for others for small things make sense? so which certain person is supposed to debate this question? i mentioned this in another thread... yes, we should pray, but ultimately all is left to the will of God. if we do not acknowledge this fact in our praying, the point is moot. some people have to die in order for others to live. some people have to hurt in order for certain lessons to be learned. some people must lose some things in order to appreciate what remains. some people must gain in order for them to be a blessing to others. God knows your prayer needs before you can even ask. but you must do your part...its not enough to just pray and wait for the guys to bring the big check. sometimes God doesn't answer prayer because that answer may not be good for us. what we pray for may not be what is meant for us. |
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