again...I will say it ONE MORE TIME

No one is forced to say the pledge and there are schools the pledge isn't said at all. my son is a junior in high school and has been in the same district since the beginning. they stooped the pledge in the 1st grade.

if someone wants to pray to whatever they believe in....no one is stopping them and they have that right. it's when it is disruptive they have a problem with

rabbit you have been picking out only the parts you want to address this whole thread.

ok here is a thought

if the state must be separate from religion

should not the laws that are not malicious in nature

but are born from religious theory be struck down

where does it say anything against prostitution thus laws prohibitng it should be struck down

before it became a christian issue

thus spitzer should not resign nor be charged

hehehe

where other than religious theory is homosexuality wrong

therefore all these amendments against civil union should be struck down

this is a far and reaching issue if you want it to be

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well some real issues here and no one wants to touch them

interesting

oh yes let us not forget about adultery and bigamy

hey....i just woke up. as chrisitan...I do agree with you

those are more moral sins...not legal. they don't hurt anyone

i had a thread going about why prostitution is illegal...the only agruements were moral ones

and i still say teaching ALL views and beliefs (except the one man shows) on how everything came to be here is good. it makes kids think and more well rounded

insert thumbs up emoticon here

multiple times

my whole point is that not even science agrees so why not teaching as much as you can??? including greek mythology. it teaches us how people thikn and maybe....we can learn to understand and be more tolerant of people.

sorry but i STILL don't see the harm in it

it's not like i'm saying to only teach my views etc

i agree with your idea in theory


but this is the flaw i find (govt induced some would say)

the united states is ranked in the bottom (about)15%

in academic achievement in the modernized world

and every one in the schools say they need more money

well i feel that they should start cutting programs

and get back to basics

say no sports till average comes up

if the people want sports they can organize it on there own

like they do hot stove baseball

if the student wants an elective they have to maintain

a grade average of c+ or above

elective will be taught in

combined classes with other districts

to help with costs

or something along these lines

but this country needs to get itz act together

it is pretty bad when the person at the cash register

can not count change properly

if i remember correctly that was like fourth grade

ok stepping down off soap box now

I agree, they should be struck down.

Prostitution is not illegal just because of morale issues. Its illegal because the government can't tax it. It also could cause a wide spread of sexually transmitted diseases.

they can tax it

and they can make regular check ups

and std screening for stds

it is just like any thing else

set up a structure

and if you do not abide by it

then you are still breaking the law

just like owning a body shop

you have a structure to follow

but if you do a few cars outside said structure

yer breaking the law (tax evasion)

so it is just a matter of structure

and compliance

upon compliance they get their health card updated

or something like that

and if they do not have a card and you use them

it would still be as illegal as it is today

You guys do know that prostitution is legal in Nevada right?

i did but never being involed with the system there

i have no idea what there structure is

They zone for it. There are areas for the brothels and prostitution is legal in the "brothel" zones. Usually on the fringe of town. The brothels are taxed and the employees (prostitutes) are required to get medical testing.

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separation of church and state is just another delusion ....if it was true then why is "in God we trust" on all the government currency

read the thread

and it does not say what god

but yes god is capitalized

that issue has been brought up already

and what difference would that make because people would just claim that all Gods are just the many faces of the one God ...the point is if there was any type of separation of church and state "God" wouldn't be on government issued currency

and that was said

and it was also pointed out that

seperation of church and state

is not in the constitution (illusion as you say)


it is

First Amendment - Religion and Expression


Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

and it is arguable that saying

in god

is saying there is a god

thus not establishing a religion

but enforcing the fact that religion exists

and should be observed

so yes it should not be there

it doesn't make a difference if it was or wasn't in the Constitution because it couldn't be enforced without demissing the Constitution ..my point is that the government encourage the inclusion of the church along with the delusion of the belief

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