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Topic: AN EXAMPLE FOR WIFE
ArtGurl's photo
Wed 03/19/08 06:41 PM

Wha...

Huh?...

Ugh...

Gosh...

Can't have no fun...laugh

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smooched

creativesoul's photo
Wed 03/19/08 06:42 PM
All joking aside...

The definition of 'love' and marraige, as can be interpreted by scripture, is quite vast, and spans the entire spectrum of understanding...

huh


Jess642's photo
Wed 03/19/08 06:44 PM
So, it would be a good thing to 'live in sin'? :wink: bigsmile devil

wouldee's photo
Wed 03/19/08 06:52 PM

Two people in love thing?


I see two people who recognise the same love....

and yes two people....one truth.... a living breathing entity, which they both choose to undertake.

Acceptance, understanding, the living entity called love....no bindings, no obligations...

I wonder at this commitment thing...some see it as something to shy away from, others with an understanding, of what is being committed to.

I dont have an innate acceptance of forever and ever, amen, with relationships.... I have an innate understanding, of here, and now, and maybe tomorrow, if we are supposed to have a tomorrow.

Two people in love???

Blech! that conjurs up cupids, and bows, and chocolate hearts and bluebirds and all sorts of cliqued things....eeeeeeeeeeeww.


I have no preconceived ideas of what this love thing should look like... as in a hollywood version, I do have a sense, that it is what has always been, and it is only the unlearning of what it isn't, that is required of me...


Did that make sense? huh laugh

I just read so many of these, 'this is how a marriage should look' threads, from a biblical perspective, and wonder, if it is all so black and white, why so many grey areas?

All these people....

all these rules... all these adherances....

if it was so easy... then why so many divorces?

No matter what the age.


The marriage thing scares the percuck out of me, but Karma knows why, and we have that ahead of us, my government requires it.... we dont... but the government does...

I am more 'married' to a person I respect, and admire, irrespective of gender, romance, etc, than any officialdom can evoke.







Jess

flowerforyou :heart: to you and yours!!!

Divorce is big business.

There is money in itlaugh laugh laugh

trust me:cry:

OK, I agree. The 'club' has some members in not so good standing. rabble running the store, eh?

America is consistent then, don't you think? I dolaugh laugh

I have no clue why divorce is so rampant. I see statistics from time to time that show the whole of society in the US being lockstep with 'cutting and running' since the time of my parents generation.

My own mother considered divorce once and my father told me of her inclination with tears in his usually unemotional eyes. Mr. Perfect was about to be made imperfectly wrenched.
It seems she wanted a bigger house and nicer things and wasn't getting her way.
I rattled her cage, for what it's worth. They stayed married and now in their late seventies have each other to bicker with 24/7 if they choose, but they have learned not to.:wink:

Same with all of their friends. Peer pressure? Societal high browing? pride? image? shame? could it be just love holds two together for only certain generations? Who really knows?

Where my family history and my parents are concerned, only my father and his sister have remained married to their high school sweethearts. My only sister and only one of my brothers has managed to keep their marriages intact. The rest of the family through the generations has not been so inclined. They are not all Christians, by the way. Interesting.


These days, it seems that compatibility may only be found in like minded friends found somewhere distant on the globe.

SUch as it is in JSH land.....

I hope you and Kharma find the beauty and magic together.

I really do!

flowerforyou :heart: bigsmile




Abracadabra's photo
Wed 03/19/08 07:06 PM
marriage may be viewed as formalized commitment
mutual domination
mutual submission
shared burdens
shared responsibility
shared kindness
shared life
no bible is needed for these things


So true.

In fact, if you need an instruction manual you really aren't ready for it. bigsmile

Britty's photo
Wed 03/19/08 08:45 PM


From Ephesians 5.22-33 I see Christian marriage to be a reflection of the relationship between Christ and the Church.

A Christian marriage should reflect Unity, love, Headship/submission (cooperation), and Perfection

Unity - "I and the father are one" (John 10.30)
Cooperation "My Father is still working, and I also am working" (JOhn 5.17)
Honor "Glorify your Son so that the Son may glorify you" (John 17.1)
Submission "For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will, but the will of him who sent me" (John 6.38)

The husband and wife are to be one because they are both parts of the body of Christ (unity of Christ and the Church)

Epheisans 5:21: "Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God" (reverence for God)

The husband is commanded to love his wife, as Christ loves the Church. The term used here is agape love. This is the love that gives.

Philipians 2:2-3 "Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind.
Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves."

Titus 2.4 Paul commends the older women to sober the minds of the younger women so that they might love their husbands as friends, share interests, have discussions, enjoy being in each others company.

They are also commanded to respect their husbands.

In Christian marriage submission is based on unity and love.
It is not blind obedience and does not imply inferiority.
Rather the two should be subject to one another in reverence to Christ.

Such a marriage is a testimony to the truth and power of the gospel.


:heart: flowerforyou




So why are there so many single Christians???

It seems you guys have a mud map on getting it right....

How come it doesn't?

huh



My husband died Jesse. I cannot speak for others.

I can guess, they have not left some of the old nature behind.
No one is perfect.

"The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak".

One is not ready for that kind of committment until completely whole in oneself.


yellowrose10's photo
Thu 03/20/08 08:58 AM

Seriously Wouldee.... if it is so simple... and there are clear guidelines to work within...



How come there are so many divorced, or single Christians?

It seems that a few have all the answers.... and the 4 easy steps to a successful marriage, even the 'How to spot the perfect mate' in one easy lesson... all gloriously typed in a manual of life, called the Bible...

How come? huh


because christians aren't perfect any more than any other religion. In a perfect world I think we all would like to not get divorced. Problem is that people do change sometimes in a marriage and differences can't always be worked out.

I'm a christian but divorced. I couldn't live with a man that I fight with all the time or that changed...just like I wouldn't expect a man to stay with me if I did that

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 03/20/08 09:01 AM



So why are there so many single Christians???

It seems you guys have a mud map on getting it right....

How come it doesn't?

huh


Again...christians aren't perfect and this isn't a perfect world. Who said christians have a mud map on getting it right. we are human like any other and we make mistakes and have our faults as well

no photo
Thu 03/20/08 10:23 AM
Hello everybody!

What I would like to know is who invented marriage?

Was it created for tax purposes in medieval times??

Who can actually really find the source of this and educate me on it?indifferent

Abracadabra's photo
Thu 03/20/08 10:37 AM

Hello everybody!

What I would like to know is who invented marriage?

Was it created for tax purposes in medieval times??

Who can actually really find the source of this and educate me on it?indifferent


The only thing that I'm sure of with absolute certainty is that there is no single answer to this. Cultures from all over the world had mating rituals. I think most people have an innate sense of monogamy when it comes to love (though certainly not all). Also from a civilization point of view it makes sense to form family units that are responsible for raising their young.

Of course, I’m sure that you’ll also find a biblical account of marriage, but clearly that wasn’t a world-wide view.

Personally, I’ve always been both monogamous-minded, and family-oriented innately. This is one of those “who I am” things that transcends any teachings, beliefs, or experiences. But all people are not like this to be sure!

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Thu 03/20/08 11:09 AM
Some answers I got through email about who invented marriage. I thought it would be funny to share.

1. Marriage was created by people wanting to spend their entire lives together, yet were unable to make it past twenty without being eaten by dinosaurs.

2. The guys who wrote the bible and if I ever get my hands on them I'm gonna strangle them. I hate being married!!

3. Had to be a women that is all I know.
NO guy would ever come up with the idea of living together as one and when it don't work out giving up half his ****

4. obviously a man. marriage only benefits a man. someone cooks, cleans and takes care of them and there children. what does a woman get out of it??? i do everything myself anyway.

Just for laughs not to be taken seriously. thanks:smile:

Abracadabra's photo
Thu 03/20/08 11:33 AM
5. Marriage was invented by divorce lawyers.

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Thu 03/20/08 11:37 AM
laugh laugh laugh

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 03/20/08 11:39 AM

Some answers I got through email about who invented marriage. I thought it would be funny to share.

1. Marriage was created by people wanting to spend their entire lives together, yet were unable to make it past twenty without being eaten by dinosaurs.

2. The guys who wrote the bible and if I ever get my hands on them I'm gonna strangle them. I hate being married!!

3. Had to be a women that is all I know.
NO guy would ever come up with the idea of living together as one and when it don't work out giving up half his ****

4. obviously a man. marriage only benefits a man. someone cooks, cleans and takes care of them and there children. what does a woman get out of it??? i do everything myself anyway.

Just for laughs not to be taken seriously. thanks:smile:


dang...I was writing them down laugh

yashafox_F4X1's photo
Sat 03/22/08 05:39 PM
Y'all hit a nerve with me.

At one time I thought that man being dominant and in charge stuff was the way to go. Boy, was I ever wrong. After being married 30 of my 50 years and losing one marriage to divorce and one to death, I'll tell you what I've learned.

Treat a woman with respect and she will treat you likewise, if you're lucky. Not having much luck here on JSH, but what the hey. What to do about that comes later in my post.

A man and a woman in a relationship should both be submitted to God, I think. A man needs to be a spiritual leader in a relationship, but a woman contributes just as much if not more so. In a vacuum, though, the man needs to step up to the plate and, indeed, is charged to do so by the Lord.

A man and a woman in a relationship are both submitted to each other. They need to find each other's style and accommodate themselves to it. Does the woman like getting cards? Get her cards. Does she want your time? Give her your time. Presents? Check. Affection? Whatever.

A man and woman should not withhold from each other unless by mutual agreement. Don't withhold affection or communication for whatever reason unless by mutual agreement.

If communication's broke off, you got no relationship. I've found that over and over again on JSH. people'll talk for a while and drop off. That's cool. I got time and I got other things to do. If you can go with being submitted to God and each other, being mutually affectionate and staying respectful best friends, you can make it. If not, you have a few strikes against you before you even start.

Satan hates marriages and families. He'll do whatever he can to tear us apart. Stay in the word, go to church, take communion. You got to stay on top of things to win the fight.

Good luck and god bless you all. And you can try to help people all you want in a troubled relationship but unless they're ready to help themselves, too, it ain't gonna work.

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