Before butterflies start flying they need to morph. They need to leave the protection within which they are before. That process it's extremely painful and hard for the butterflies. But all this pain serves a purpose. All this effort make the bodily fluids of the butterfly be distributed to its body, and therefore, make the butterfly strong enough to fly and survive.
In the same manner, humans pass by difficulties and suffering through their lifes in that way God allows as to become stronger, God allows us to be who we are suppose to be.
Most of the times we question God asking why did you allow this pain and suffering come upon us. Why some innocent people suffer? The Lord JesusChrist also was innocent and He suffered tremendous pain and humilation. Where was God the when His own Son was in that situation? He was there next to Him giving Him strength The same happens whenever we think God has left us alone, He is there giving us strength to carry on.
So let's recognize that our Heavenly Father is with us, and not against us.

AMEN.

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it's not in human nature to brush your teeth

it's our nature to destroy oursevles

words of wisdom and experience speaking...love it

50% agreed
50% disagreed

I think those are great words to live by Walker

God Bless you

My only question is why would you think this?

Have you even been a butterfly?

For all we know it might be the greatest bliss ever to morph into a butterfly.

Besides, are you suggesting that God makes us suffer so that we can grow?

Might it be possible that we cause our own suffering because we refuse to grow?

All people don’t seem to be suffering. Many seem to have found peace within themselves and within the world around them.

Suffering is often a subjective thing. Suffering is usually nothing more than our own refusal to accept our current situation in hopes of being in better situations. The key to bliss is often nothing more than the acceptance of our current situations.

Excellent!

Meant that to lonelywalker

damn it James. u always make me think twice.
But I will get back. Hold on.

Well, for whatever it's worth, I'm not discounting God.

As you well know, I believe that God is with me always. God experiences everything that I experience just precisely as I experience it. Therefore if I want to make it a good experience for God, it’s up to me to make it a good experience for myself as well.

u and me are fine my brother.
it's always a brain tease trying to keep up with ur reasoning

getting back at you James.
Yes, I think that God allows us to suffer because we refuse to grow.
Those people who who don't seem to be suffering are those who have understood the word "causality." They have understood the idea that everything happens for a purpose. So they accept the hard situations with hope and love.
I agree the key for INTERNAL PEACE (not bliss as far as i understand) is acceptance of our current situation.
U r a wise man James. It's always good learning from you.

you realize this is not the butterfly effect right... the butterlfly effect is actually chaos therory...

well that was the name of the email somebody sent me, and i found it very beautiful, and i wanted to share it with those who have an open heart.
I don't even know what chaos theory means, and i don't want to know either.

that's an awesome attitude....good luck in life....

It's a scientific school of thought.... sorry couldn't help trying to spread knowledge....

don't think I'm close minded. But it must be something interesting as a matter of general knowledge.
Sorry if i came across as an jerk.

There are many meanings to your post Miguel.....Nicely done.....Sometimes I like to just read the post and absorb all the beauty that is within it....this is one of those times.....

Actually you might really like chaos theory TLW.

It has to do with the fact that even when things appear to be unconnected and chaotic, and there are mathematically chaotic behaviors in sensitive systems, but there are also patterns within patterns of actions and reactions and chaos has limits. Many of the interactions that occur may not be immediately apparent to us (e.g. "a butterfly flaps it's wings in japan and a tsunami occurs on the other side of the world") but there are enough examples to support elements of the theory.

In a way I think of the butterfy effect as just showing how everything is connected and every action may have multiple reactions that are not proportionate to the initial action. Aspects of the theory(s) apply to many different fields.

In biology and ecology we were taught that disturbances were more predictable- small disturbances would have small repercussions and large disruptions would have greater impacts. E.g. an animal walking in the forest displaces dirt and possibly plants. The impact is slight and proportionate to the level of disturbance. A hurricane displaces many elements and has a high energy and causes much higher levels of impact. We also had certain rules, e.g. in nature the level and frequency of disturbance are usually inversely proportionate- that is small disturbances are frequent and large disturbances are rare- e.g. animals run through forests constantly, hurricanes impact an area only every few years or decades, or even less.

Chaos theory is used a lot by mathematicians and physicists though... since we know several perhaps one of them will comment later.



Also, re your OP I do try to believe that everything happens for a reason and will make me stronger, give me opportunities to become a better person, etc. but death of loved ones is still hard for me. When my brother died with 2 young sons it was hard to see the reason...

then what i wrote really has to do with the real butterfly effect. I talked about causality, and the hardness we find to link the reasons why somethings occur to us. They seem to be unconnected, but they really are connected, as the chaos theory explains. (as far as i understood).

I understand your pain, my friend