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Topic: WE WERE RIGHT THEY LIED
Fanta46 Joined Sat 11/11/06 Posts: 29361	Sun 03/02/08 10:16 AM
Now how many of the top 10 have social health-care?

madisonman Joined Sun 12/23/07 Posts: 4573	Sun 03/02/08 10:16 AM
The World Health Organization's ranking of the world's health systems. Source: WHO World Health Report - See also Spreadsheet Details (731kb) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rank Country 1 France 2 Italy 3 San Marino 4 Andorra 5 Malta 6 Singapore 7 Spain 8 Oman 9 Austria 10 Japan 11 Norway 12 Portugal 13 Monaco 14 Greece 15 Iceland 16 Luxembourg 17 Netherlands 18 United Kingdom 19 Ireland 20 Switzerland 21 Belgium 22 Colombia 23 Sweden 24 Cyprus 25 Germany 26 Saudi Arabia 27 United Arab Emirates 28 Israel 29 Morocco 30 Canada 31 Finland 32 Australia 33 Chile 34 Denmark 35 Dominica 36 Costa Rica 37 United States of America 38 Slovenia 39 Cuba 40 Brunei 41 New Zealand 42 Bahrain 43 Croatia 44 Qatar 45 Kuwait 46 Barbados 47 Thailand 48 Czech Republic 49 Malaysia 50 Poland 51 Dominican Republic 52 Tunisia 53 Jamaica 54 Venezuela 55 Albania http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthranks.html waiting for the source to be attacked

Fanta46 Joined Sat 11/11/06 Posts: 29361	Sun 03/02/08 10:18 AM
And quit falling for the Insurance Industry and AMA's propoganda machine!!

madisonman Joined Sun 12/23/07 Posts: 4573	Sun 03/02/08 10:47 AM
And quit falling for the Insurance Industry and AMA's propoganda machine!! everyone chant "were number 1, weee number 1, oppps I mean were number 37, were number 37"

Fanta46 Joined Sat 11/11/06 Posts: 29361	Sun 03/02/08 10:50 AM
Well, How many?

madisonman Joined Sun 12/23/07 Posts: 4573	Sun 03/02/08 11:05 AM
Well, How many? I believe all the top ten are socialised medecine

armydoc4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 1153	Sun 03/02/08 11:06 AM
The World Health Organization's ranking of the world's health systems. Source: WHO World Health Report - See also Spreadsheet Details (731kb) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rank Country 1 France 2 Italy 3 San Marino 4 Andorra 5 Malta 6 Singapore 7 Spain 8 Oman 9 Austria 10 Japan 11 Norway 12 Portugal 13 Monaco 14 Greece 15 Iceland 16 Luxembourg 17 Netherlands 18 United Kingdom 19 Ireland 20 Switzerland 21 Belgium 22 Colombia 23 Sweden 24 Cyprus 25 Germany 26 Saudi Arabia 27 United Arab Emirates 28 Israel 29 Morocco 30 Canada 31 Finland 32 Australia 33 Chile 34 Denmark 35 Dominica 36 Costa Rica 37 United States of America 38 Slovenia 39 Cuba 40 Brunei 41 New Zealand 42 Bahrain 43 Croatia 44 Qatar 45 Kuwait 46 Barbados 47 Thailand 48 Czech Republic 49 Malaysia 50 Poland 51 Dominican Republic 52 Tunisia 53 Jamaica 54 Venezuela 55 Albania http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthranks.html waiting for the source to be attacked I went to the site, not dismissing it as a crock cause it looks pretty straight forward, BUT and you knew this was coming... I dont know how they reached their conclussions when you have places such as canada and norway who have people standing in lines for months to receive treatments... canadian on this site will atest to that, people flocking to the US for care from there. norway, lines for medical have been know to wait for a year just to see a general practioner, now that is an extreme case I'll grant you, but have you ever had to wait months to be seen by your doctor? Im going to research how the went about their little study, if for no other reason I am now intersted in this. and the weirdness, since when they did a city by city comparison of healthcare world wide the US had 17 out of the top 25. http://www.mercer.com/summary.jhtml?idContent=1173105#sanitation

madisonman Joined Sun 12/23/07 Posts: 4573	Sun 03/02/08 11:11 AM
My personal opinion is that some horror stories are hyped by our for profit system about other countries and the american horror stories are swept under a rug. I suspect the fact thatwe have 40 million americans with no health care at all skews the data downward. In my case my docotors office is 3 miles away I have full coverage for my family at around 36 bucks a month with a ten dollar co-pay per visit. My prescriptions are 5 or ten dollars and no more unless it is non needed. I imagine I have some of the best health care in the world myself but I am one of 300 million in this country.

Gypsy41 Joined Tue 05/15/07 Posts: 123359	Sun 03/02/08 11:17 AM
there is more bs spewed around about other countries than I care to admit.......but I still say the best health care is in france, holland and Canada!

armydoc4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 1153	Sun 03/02/08 11:17 AM
My personal opinion is that some horror stories are hyped by our for profit system about other countries and the american horror stories are swept under a rug. I suspect the fact thatwe have 40 million americans with no health care at all skews the data downward. In my case my docotors office is 3 miles away I have full coverage for my family at around 36 bucks a month with a ten dollar co-pay per visit. My prescriptions are 5 or ten dollars and no more unless it is non needed. I imagine I have some of the best health care in the world myself but I am one of 300 million in this country. I put a link in a thread of yours taking you to norwayand talked about their medical care among other things.. dont know if you looked at it or not but interest the hype coming out of their own mouths. I have some of the best healthcare to , for me and my daughter, it doesnt cost a dime, dental and vision are 27 buck a months tho, and covers it all, no co pays, no rx co pays either. but Ive more than paid for it in my opinion.

adj4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 21254	Sun 03/02/08 11:21 AM
http://www.bushflash.com/right.html what a crock of feces ---------------------------------- WASHINGTON — The United States has found 500 chemical weapons in Iraq since 2003, and more weapons of mass destruction are likely to be uncovered, two Republican lawmakers said Wednesday. "We have found weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, chemical weapons," Sen. Rick Santorum, R-Pa., said in a quickly called press conference late Wednesday afternoon. Click here to read the declassified portion of the NGIC report. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,200499,00.html there are wmd bn found

adj4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 21254	Sun 03/02/08 11:21 AM
New evidence out of Iraq suggests the U.S. effort to track down Saddam Hussein's missing weapons of mass destruction is having better success than is being reported. Key assertions http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38213

adj4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 21254	Sun 03/02/08 11:22 AM
Munitions Found in Iraq Renew Debate Rep. Susan Davis (D-Calif.) asked whether the munitions could be characterized as "the Golden Oldies of weapons of mass destruction." Maples said he was "not sure what Golden Oldies are" but added that the munitions were "dangerous. . . . even in a degraded mode, they will produce hazardous and potentially lethal effects and that we would categorize them as weapons of mass destruction." http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/30/AR2006063001528_2.html so iguess it is true they had wmd clearly proven by finding them justification assured

adj4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 21254	Sun 03/02/08 11:22 AM
Munitions Found in Iraq Meet WMD Criteria, Official Says By Samantha L. Quigley American Forces Press Service WASHINGTON, June 29, 2006 – The 500 munitions discovered throughout Iraq since 2003 and discussed in a National Ground Intelligence Center report meet the criteria of weapons of mass destruction, the center's commander said here today. "These are chemical weapons as defined under the Chemical Weapons Convention, and yes ... they do constitute weapons of mass destruction," Army Col. John Chu told the House Armed Services Committee. The Chemical Weapons Convention i http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=15918 and only been looking from about 2 minutes b4 first post of this series on page 3 that i made imagine what a good search could find

adj4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 21254	Sun 03/02/08 11:23 AM
June 16, 2003 WMD Found In Iraq The offensive missiles discovered are an entirely different matter. The weapons are offensive in nature and definitely threatened peace in the region. They could have killed many civilians in surrounding countries. http://www.democratictalkradio.com/demvoices-03wmd.html note the site DEMOCRATIC TALK RADIO

adj4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 21254	Sun 03/02/08 11:23 AM
WMD Found in Iraq!!! Fish of Mass Destruction the Tip of an Iceberg! by Jerre Skog http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Articles7/Skog_Deadly-Fish.htm this one is very interesting

Fanta46 Joined Sat 11/11/06 Posts: 29361	Sun 03/02/08 11:24 AM
Yeah, The Bush Administration wouldnt fabricate stories!!!

Fanta46 Joined Sat 11/11/06 Posts: 29361	Sun 03/02/08 11:24 AM
Its bad when you wouldnt even belief the truth if they told it!!

adj4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 21254	Sun 03/02/08 11:32 AM
Yeah, The Bush Administration wouldnt fabricate stories!!! yes fanta i am sure bush controls the democratic talk radio reports for someone so stupid he sure does control and manipulate a lot of stories (according to many) now ya can not have it both ways either he is stupid or he manipulated democratic talk radio

Lordling Joined Mon 12/31/07 Posts: 536	Sun 03/02/08 11:35 AM Edited by Lordling on Sun 03/02/08 11:44 AM
Munitions Found in Iraq Meet WMD Criteria, Official Says By Samantha L. Quigley American Forces Press Service WASHINGTON, June 29, 2006 – The 500 munitions discovered throughout Iraq since 2003 and discussed in a National Ground Intelligence Center report meet the criteria of weapons of mass destruction, the center's commander said here today. "These are chemical weapons as defined under the Chemical Weapons Convention, and yes ... they do constitute weapons of mass destruction," Army Col. John Chu told the House Armed Services Committee. The Chemical Weapons Convention i http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=15918 and only been looking from about 2 minutes b4 first post of this series on page 3 that i made imagine what a good search could find Yes, and down further in the same article (full CNN version) it says: Offering the official administration response to FOX News, a senior Defense Department official pointed out that the chemical weapons were not in useable conditions. "This does not reflect a capacity that was built up after 1991," the official said, adding the munitions "are not the WMDs this country and the rest of the world believed Iraq had, and not the WMDs for which this country went to war."