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armydoc4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 1153	Sun 03/02/08 06:45 PM
I just consider the source on this kind of threads. My son has been there & we discuss the truth. War is hell, where ever it happens. Innocent people get hurt & killed, mistakes happen. I think history shows our troops do their best to protect the innocent. We have lost many soldiers saving people, they didn't have too. So let folks rant & consider the source. If you really are unhappy with this country, I am still asking; "What other country do you think is better??" All in all, think the old USA is pretty good. Just my "humble opinion." Brother Im all about Tahiti... Maddy's ok, he just see's the glass as half empty thru his mirrored shades. Im not going to lie, gets my dander up thats for damn sure, but if you can get him to talk and not do the cut paste job he's an alright dude, maybe a little egotistical but then what person doesnt want to be right in their veiws. I think therefore I am. Now if we can get the thinking down we'll be good. heres to you old timer.

cutelildevilsmom Joined Sat 04/07/07 Posts: 8862	Sun 03/02/08 06:47 PM Edited by cutelildevilsmom on Sun 03/02/08 06:48 PM
Sorry punched the wrong key.I just wanted to add the John Wayne was a draft dodger in WWII here are the facts,Jack John Wayne had a deep love for his country. This patriotism is reflected throughout his life. He had wanted to go into the military but an old football injury prevented it. He is quoted as saying, "More than anything else, I wanted to go to Annapolis and become an officer in the Navy. It was a terrible disappointment when I didn't make it." The American public may have lost the chance at a great officer but John Wayne never failed us. He worked with the USO (United Service Organization) in supporting US troops from WW2 through to Vietnam. His visits cheered and encouraged many a young service man. Duke wore Capt. Stephen P Hanson's "Prisoner of War" bracelet after the Marine was shot down over Laos, Vietnam. Sadly, Hanson never came home but John Wayne stayed in contact with his wife and young son. John Wayne never shied away from politics. He actively spoke out for the candidates he thought were best including Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan. He honorably held for 3 years the position of president of the Motion Picture Alliance for the Preservation of American Ideals. John Wayne had many honors bestowed on him. During a visit to Vietnam in 1966 he was given a tribal bracelet of the Montagnard people. In 1973 he was honored with the Veterans of Foreign Wars highest award - The National Americanism Gold Medal. Congress awarded Duke the Congressional Gold Medal in 1979. John Wayne helicopter Most recently John Wayne has been honored with an Army RAH-66 Helicopter, to be named "The Duke." Many were there at the naming ceremony in Washington D.C. on May 12, 1998, including his children and grandchildren, congress men, the president of the USO Metropolitan Washington, dignitaries and many military personnel. Michael Wayne said at the ceremonies, "John Wayne loved his country and he loved its traditions."

adj4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 21254	Sun 03/02/08 06:53 PM
Sorry punched the wrong key.I just wanted to add the John Wayne was a draft dodger in WWII here are the facts,Jack John Wayne had a deep love for his country. This patriotism is reflected throughout his life. He had wanted to go into the military but an old football injury prevented it. He is quoted as saying, "More than anything else, I wanted to go to Annapolis and become an officer in the Navy. It was a terrible disappointment when I didn't make it." The American public may have lost the chance at a great officer but John Wayne never failed us. He worked with the USO (United Service Organization) in supporting US troops from WW2 through to Vietnam. His visits cheered and encouraged many a young service man. Duke wore Capt. Stephen P Hanson's "Prisoner of War" bracelet after the Marine was shot down over Laos, Vietnam. Sadly, Hanson never came home but John Wayne stayed in contact with his wife and young son. John Wayne never shied away from politics. He actively spoke out for the candidates he thought were best including Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan. He honorably held for 3 years the position of president of the Motion Picture Alliance for the Preservation of American Ideals. John Wayne had many honors bestowed on him. During a visit to Vietnam in 1966 he was given a tribal bracelet of the Montagnard people. In 1973 he was honored with the Veterans of Foreign Wars highest award - The National Americanism Gold Medal. Congress awarded Duke the Congressional Gold Medal in 1979. John Wayne helicopter Most recently John Wayne has been honored with an Army RAH-66 Helicopter, to be named "The Duke." Many were there at the naming ceremony in Washington D.C. on May 12, 1998, including his children and grandchildren, congress men, the president of the USO Metropolitan Washington, dignitaries and many military personnel. Michael Wayne said at the ceremonies, "John Wayne loved his country and he loved its traditions." insert thumbs up emoticon here multiple times

adj4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 21254	Sun 03/02/08 06:58 PM
No comments to my opinion. Wonder why? joining the ranks of the mostly ignored are ya ol' sage i know the feeling to well it is kinda hard to argue with blunt truth i guess

longshot Joined Fri 09/07/07 Posts: 159	Sun 03/02/08 06:58 PM
My name is not jack and John Wayne took a deferrment because he d'in't want to stop his acting career.And I never said he wasn't patriotic but it's one thing to talk a good game and another to face the heat.I was just suggesting the we might want to pck our heroe's a little more carefully.Gene Autry and Jimmy Stewart actually put their careers on hold and joined the military as did Ted Williams and Stan Musieul to name a few. Sorry punched the wrong key.I just wanted to add the John Wayne was a draft dodger in WWII here are the facts,Jack John Wayne had a deep love for his country. This patriotism is reflected throughout his life. He had wanted to go into the military but an old football injury prevented it. He is quoted as saying, "More than anything else, I wanted to go to Annapolis and become an officer in the Navy. It was a terrible disappointment when I didn't make it." The American public may have lost the chance at a great officer but John Wayne never failed us. He worked with the USO (United Service Organization) in supporting US troops from WW2 through to Vietnam. His visits cheered and encouraged many a young service man. Duke wore Capt. Stephen P Hanson's "Prisoner of War" bracelet after the Marine was shot down over Laos, Vietnam. Sadly, Hanson never came home but John Wayne stayed in contact with his wife and young son. John Wayne never shied away from politics. He actively spoke out for the candidates he thought were best including Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan. He honorably held for 3 years the position of president of the Motion Picture Alliance for the Preservation of American Ideals. John Wayne had many honors bestowed on him. During a visit to Vietnam in 1966 he was given a tribal bracelet of the Montagnard people. In 1973 he was honored with the Veterans of Foreign Wars highest award - The National Americanism Gold Medal. Congress awarded Duke the Congressional Gold Medal in 1979. John Wayne helicopter Most recently John Wayne has been honored with an Army RAH-66 Helicopter, to be named "The Duke." Many were there at the naming ceremony in Washington D.C. on May 12, 1998, including his children and grandchildren, congress men, the president of the USO Metropolitan Washington, dignitaries and many military personnel. Michael Wayne said at the ceremonies, "John Wayne loved his country and he loved its traditions."

longshot Joined Fri 09/07/07 Posts: 159	Sun 03/02/08 06:59 PM
My name is not jack and John Wayne took a deferrment because he d'in't want to stop his acting career.And I never said he wasn't patriotic but it's one thing to talk a good game and another to face the heat.I was just suggesting the we might want to pck our heroe's a little more carefully.Gene Autry and Jimmy Stewart actually put their careers on hold and joined the military as did Ted Williams and Stan Musieul to name a few. Sorry punched the wrong key.I just wanted to add the John Wayne was a draft dodger in WWII here are the facts,Jack John Wayne had a deep love for his country. This patriotism is reflected throughout his life. He had wanted to go into the military but an old football injury prevented it. He is quoted as saying, "More than anything else, I wanted to go to Annapolis and become an officer in the Navy. It was a terrible disappointment when I didn't make it." The American public may have lost the chance at a great officer but John Wayne never failed us. He worked with the USO (United Service Organization) in supporting US troops from WW2 through to Vietnam. His visits cheered and encouraged many a young service man. Duke wore Capt. Stephen P Hanson's "Prisoner of War" bracelet after the Marine was shot down over Laos, Vietnam. Sadly, Hanson never came home but John Wayne stayed in contact with his wife and young son. John Wayne never shied away from politics. He actively spoke out for the candidates he thought were best including Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan. He honorably held for 3 years the position of president of the Motion Picture Alliance for the Preservation of American Ideals. John Wayne had many honors bestowed on him. During a visit to Vietnam in 1966 he was given a tribal bracelet of the Montagnard people. In 1973 he was honored with the Veterans of Foreign Wars highest award - The National Americanism Gold Medal. Congress awarded Duke the Congressional Gold Medal in 1979. John Wayne helicopter Most recently John Wayne has been honored with an Army RAH-66 Helicopter, to be named "The Duke." Many were there at the naming ceremony in Washington D.C. on May 12, 1998, including his children and grandchildren, congress men, the president of the USO Metropolitan Washington, dignitaries and many military personnel. Michael Wayne said at the ceremonies, "John Wayne loved his country and he loved its traditions."

adj4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 21254	Sun 03/02/08 07:07 PM
http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a5_004.html Besides, he specialized in the kind of movies a nation at war wanted to see, in which a rugged American hero overcame great odds. Recognizing that Hollywood was an important part of the war effort, Washington had told California draft boards to go easy on actors. Perhaps rationalizing that he could do more good at home, Wayne obtained 3-A status, "deferred for [family] dependency reasons." He told friends he'd enlist after he made just one or two more movies. .......... ......He even made a half-hearted effort to sign up, sending in the paperwork to enlist in the naval photography unit commanded by a good friend, director John Ford.

adj4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 21254	Sun 03/02/08 07:09 PM
http://www.reelclassics.com/Actors/Wayne/wayne.htm Ineligible for military service due to an ear problem, Wayne spent World War II in Hollywood appearing in a variety of roles, but among his biggest box-office successes of the early 1940s were such war films as FLYING TIGERS (1942), THE FIGHTING SEABEES (1944), BACK TO BATAAN (1945) and Ford's THEY WERE EXPENDABLE (1945). After the war, he earned his first Academy Award nomination as Best Actor for his portrayal of Sergeant Striker (at right) in SANDS OF IWO JIMA (1949).

cutelildevilsmom Joined Sat 04/07/07 Posts: 8862	Sun 03/02/08 07:15 PM
My name is not jack and John Wayne took a deferrment because he d'in't want to stop his acting career.And I never said he wasn't patriotic but it's one thing to talk a good game and another to face the heat.I was just suggesting the we might want to pck our heroe's a little more carefully.Gene Autry and Jimmy Stewart actually put their careers on hold and joined the military as did Ted Williams and Stan Musieul to name a few. Sorry punched the wrong key.I just wanted to add the John Wayne was a draft dodger in WWII here are the facts,Jack John Wayne had a deep love for his country. This patriotism is reflected throughout his life. He had wanted to go into the military but an old football injury prevented it. He is quoted as saying, "More than anything else, I wanted to go to Annapolis and become an officer in the Navy. It was a terrible disappointment when I didn't make it." The American public may have lost the chance at a great officer but John Wayne never failed us. He worked with the USO (United Service Organization) in supporting US troops from WW2 through to Vietnam. His visits cheered and encouraged many a young service man. Duke wore Capt. Stephen P Hanson's "Prisoner of War" bracelet after the Marine was shot down over Laos, Vietnam. Sadly, Hanson never came home but John Wayne stayed in contact with his wife and young son. John Wayne never shied away from politics. He actively spoke out for the candidates he thought were best including Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan. He honorably held for 3 years the position of president of the Motion Picture Alliance for the Preservation of American Ideals. John Wayne had many honors bestowed on him. During a visit to Vietnam in 1966 he was given a tribal bracelet of the Montagnard people. In 1973 he was honored with the Veterans of Foreign Wars highest award - The National Americanism Gold Medal. Congress awarded Duke the Congressional Gold Medal in 1979. John Wayne helicopter Most recently John Wayne has been honored with an Army RAH-66 Helicopter, to be named "The Duke." Many were there at the naming ceremony in Washington D.C. on May 12, 1998, including his children and grandchildren, congress men, the president of the USO Metropolitan Washington, dignitaries and many military personnel. Michael Wayne said at the ceremonies, "John Wayne loved his country and he loved its traditions." whatever.the man and america go hand in hand.lots of famous people didn't fight but went over and visited the troops and helped the war effort.just because you don't shoot people doesn't mean you aren't a hero.

adj4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 21254	Sun 03/02/08 07:15 PM
http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a1_364.html Dear Cecil: Did John Wayne ever serve in the military? --Bert D., Dallas Dear Bert: The closest Wayne ever came to military action was a three-month entertainment tour of Pacific bases that he went on in 1944. His childhood dream--to become a naval officer--was never realized, although he did come close to receiving an appointment to Annapolis. Later, during World War II, he was rejected for military service. He was never a cowboy, either. --CECIL ADAMS ---------------------------- Cecil Adams is the author of "The Straight Dope", a weekly newspaper column he has been writing since 1973. The concept is straightforward: Readers ask trivia questions -- Why are there 24 hours in a day? How do porcupines have sex? What does the 'H' stand for in Jesus H. Christ? -- and Adams provides well-researched and impeccably accurate answers, with occasional smart-ass asides. http://www.nndb.com/people/399/000026321/

cutelildevilsmom Joined Sat 04/07/07 Posts: 8862	Sun 03/02/08 07:15 PM
Sorry punched the wrong key.I just wanted to add the John Wayne was a draft dodger in WWII here are the facts,Jack John Wayne had a deep love for his country. This patriotism is reflected throughout his life. He had wanted to go into the military but an old football injury prevented it. He is quoted as saying, "More than anything else, I wanted to go to Annapolis and become an officer in the Navy. It was a terrible disappointment when I didn't make it." The American public may have lost the chance at a great officer but John Wayne never failed us. He worked with the USO (United Service Organization) in supporting US troops from WW2 through to Vietnam. His visits cheered and encouraged many a young service man. Duke wore Capt. Stephen P Hanson's "Prisoner of War" bracelet after the Marine was shot down over Laos, Vietnam. Sadly, Hanson never came home but John Wayne stayed in contact with his wife and young son. John Wayne never shied away from politics. He actively spoke out for the candidates he thought were best including Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan. He honorably held for 3 years the position of president of the Motion Picture Alliance for the Preservation of American Ideals. John Wayne had many honors bestowed on him. During a visit to Vietnam in 1966 he was given a tribal bracelet of the Montagnard people. In 1973 he was honored with the Veterans of Foreign Wars highest award - The National Americanism Gold Medal. Congress awarded Duke the Congressional Gold Medal in 1979. John Wayne helicopter Most recently John Wayne has been honored with an Army RAH-66 Helicopter, to be named "The Duke." Many were there at the naming ceremony in Washington D.C. on May 12, 1998, including his children and grandchildren, congress men, the president of the USO Metropolitan Washington, dignitaries and many military personnel. Michael Wayne said at the ceremonies, "John Wayne loved his country and he loved its traditions." insert thumbs up emoticon here multiple times rock on robin..hi my friend

adj4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 21254	Sun 03/02/08 07:19 PM
rock on robin..hi my friend

armydoc4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 1153	Mon 03/03/08 03:26 AM
the duke, the dukesternator. the original action hero. pretty much a legand in his own time. and if anyone would get a pass on opting out with a deferment, i guess it couldnt go to a better choice.