i noticed some people talking about this subject in another topic so i
figured i would give it it's own post.

i know alot of people are for it but i am against gun laws that are too
restrictive. i enjoy the right to own a firearm and i would not want to
see that right taken away. i noticed a debate starting on the topic and
all i have to say is that a good example of how a gun ban in the united
states won't work is the ability to buy them illegally. we had a ban on
assault weapons a few years back and it didn't stop people from getting
them and using them on our streets. i don't think you should take them
away from law abiding citizens and leave only the criminals armed.

banning guns never solves the problem. here in canada we have very
severe gun laws that cost alot but doesn't stop the guns getting in the
wrong hands!! wtf! stop banning the weapons and start controling the
peple who buy them. theyre the ones killing kids in our schools.

here I beg to differ folks..

at the ripe young age of 12 I was shot by a hunter... I'm very active in
the fight against Urban/rural hunting.. and since September this year
all you can hear is gun fire round my place.. from early in the
morning.. usually 1/2 hour before sunrise.. till late in the day... some
days the rapid fire only makes me question.. 1) what the HELL are they
hunting that needs THAT much ammo THAT quickly.. and 2) why the F**K
they NEED to hunt with a grocery store on every corner?? and lastly.. 3)
do they realize they're causing the locals PTSD (my nerves are SHOT cuz
of it and I'm afraid to venture too far from home for fear of being
shot!!)

My Opinion?? BAN ALL GUNS!! NO one shud have the right to bear arms
unLESS yer in Law Enforcement of SOME kind!!

im not givin up my guns for nothin. i have an uncle, some idiot broke
into my uncles house, and my uncle couldnt get to the gun in time. this
idiot then proceeded to shoot my uncle, lock him in his own closet,
grabbed my aunt and thier one daughter and proceeded to rape them right
in front of the closet door. so that my uncle had to listen but could
not do a damn thing. because of that my aunt had nightmares EVERY NIGHT
and so does thier daughter. FU*K banning guns. whoever wants to take my
rifles can have them, but they're gonna have one hell of a time getting
them.

we ALL talk a good game when NOT faced with the situation we're
describing.. like.. "if someone tries to break in.. I'm gonna shoot
first and ask questions later" or "just let someone try raping me.. I'll
show them!!!"

Let me tell you... I've talk the BIG talk too.. but.. when I was 17 I
was mugged.. and THRILLED to have gotten away with my LIFE!! this just
around the corner from home in a SAFE neighborhood..
at 16.. I was GANG raped.. and in BOTH situations.. if I HAD a gun.. I
wouldn't be here today to tell y'all about it.. cuz you FREEZE.. even
for a split moment.. while THEY're high on Adrenaline and in ACTION
mode.. you don't have time to THINK.. so unless you've had YEARS of some
form of Defensive Training.. you've a snowballs chance in hell of
'defending' yourself withOUT getting killed!!

but this has been just MY opinion from MY experiences!!

Zero: As far as your comment about urban/rural hunting I agree with
you. I know the area where you live and no hunting should be allowed
there. However I also hunt, with a bow though because it gives a better
chance to prey to escape, and despite the stores all over there is some
satisfaction in knowing that you have meat in freezer without paying the
ridiculous prices.

It's not so much that guns need to be conrolled as a better conrol
needed over who gets them. As strict as laws get over permits,
background checks, profiles etc. the fact remains that someone who wants
one bad enough can get one. Stricter sentences for using a weapon in
commission of a crime, smuggling weapons and illegal sales, use/sale of
military issue and use/ sale of vest cutters (Black Talon, Rhino) are
what's required. Honest citizens should have the right to defend
themselves.

Karma.. I am an honest person.. and I DON'T need a gun to feel safe..
I've taken training in the defensive arts and have a 'nice' collection
of swords.. although 60% are 'just for show' the OTHER 40% can kill
ya... but I won't tell ya WHICH one's k?? LOL a girls gotta have SOME
kind of mystery to her LMAO

you can recover MUCH easier from a knife cut than you can a bullet
wound.. IF the bullet doesn't kill ya.. as the old saying goes.. ONCE
SHOT... Twice shy!!

Besides.. I LIKE playing Henry the 8th... "OFF WITH THEIR HEADS"

Zero: Have that kind of collection myself. Probably what got me started
on chainmail. Have aleady learned that 2 1/2 feet of steel tends to
alter attitudes.

my point exactly... and NO body gets killed :o)

Zero don't bring a sword to a gun fight lol No really hunting is needed
for population control grow up damn. I have had bullets whiz around my
head. Me and my brother in law both, no big deal. Guns are good, it's
the people that use them that make them bad. You think for one moment
that a bad guy is going to care whether or not they are against the law
when he picks one up to commit a crime? Get real! Accidents happen. It
was an unfortunate accident that you took a stray bullet. Ok, cars kill
people too, let's do away with them. Lightning is another killer, ****
can't have storms no more better tell mother nature to knock it off.
Swords? Damn I am sure there are people that have had their throats slit
and died from blades a hell of alot smaller than those things, can't
have that either. Timothy McVeigh killed a bunch of people rather
quickly how? Yep, time to do away with fertilizer and diesel fuel, who
really has to have that stuff. Didn't have all this crap many years ago.
Get a life!!

A 44Magnum with off someones head rather nicely too. :)

Zero,
It would be nice if your theory had any solid ground to it. "Ban all
guns, except for law enforcement"? Let me remind you of how our freedom
was originally won. Alot of bloodshed AND guns. If we go to the extent
that we ban ALL guns from "free" people then only the bad people will
have the guns. Not my idea of an ideal situation. Now, what if the
government decides to take your rights away by force? Are you going to
throw silverware at them, or should we ban those too as they can be used
as deadly weapons? I am sorry that you were shot. The hunter was an
idiot for shooting at sounds and if he knew it was you he should have
been charged with attempted murder.

well as far as the food goes I don't really like wild meat but I do the
love the sport of hunting and like I said "animal population control"
I do not waste the meat I give it away.

GUNS DONT KILL PEOPLE....PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE! Anything can be used as a
weapon so please people cease the push for a "gunban" AND I have been in
law enforcement and most of the cops I am friends with will give up
there badges if there ever were a gun ban. Should make everyone nervous
to know that!

well in the states all states that have concelead weapons right to
carry laws have all had drops in crime rates, Missouri passed the right
to carry law and it was SUPPORTED BY ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICES, hmm
imagine that, crimes gonna happen with or without guns, yes bad guys
will have them no matter what, deal with it, and like I said if you want
to stop hunting accidents then educate the hunters, Missouri passed such
a law a while back to get a hunting license you MUST take an 8 hour
course and pass the test afterwards.

mike is officially a bad ass on this subject. i didnt have to do a damn
thing i sat back and let yall plead the case for me. thanks mike!! haha

My personal favorite is a town which passed a bylaw requiring all
homeowners or those of legal age who could pass the background checks to
have a firearm. It's not strictly enforced (if you don't want one then
you don't) but the local police show up at your place and offer you a
choice from a selection. Crime dropped to near zero. Any crime afterward
was committed by outsiders.

Ive owned guns my whole life and have an EIB,
The onlt time I ever thought about killing someone (murder) I was going
to run them over in my Pick-up!!!LOL
Are they going to take that away!

shhh Fanta don't motivate them