Topic: 'I think I love you'
tomie's photo
Fri 02/22/08 06:18 AM
Hey Karmafury and Jesse; at what point does being 'liked' turn into 'love'?
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karmafury's photo
Fri 02/22/08 09:21 AM

Hey Karmafury and Jesse; at what point does being 'liked' turn into 'love'?
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If I heed the words of a child your question is phrased backwards. When does being 'Loved' turn into being 'Liked'. Personally, when I would like nothing more than to be with that one person for the next 500 years or so.bigsmile

tomie's photo
Fri 02/22/08 11:29 AM


Hey Karmafury and Jesse; at what point does being 'liked' turn into 'love'?
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If I heed the words of a child your question is phrased backwards. When does being 'Loved' turn into being 'Liked'. Personally, when I would like nothing more than to be with that one person for the next 500 years or so.bigsmile


OH, I thought you had to 'like' someone before 'loving' that person. Maybe it's a guy thing.
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feralcatlady's photo
Fri 02/22/08 11:34 AM
Lust

On

Varies

Exciting

countrybumpkin2u's photo
Fri 02/22/08 11:35 AM
Love is making mistakes nad being forgiven of them.
The ONLY true LOVE I have ever had is the LOVE I have from My Savior. Hes all the Love I will ever NEED. My wants tho, Well, thats not the same. I beleive we ALL want the kind of LOVE we get from others. But is it enough "love"?:heart: :heart: :heart:

Jess642's photo
Fri 02/22/08 09:30 PM
Edited by Jess642 on Fri 02/22/08 09:30 PM
Tomie....

Love is a constant... there is no pause...

We feeble humans believe it is set on pause until Mr lustful, or Ms Wonderful, or commonly known as Ms or Mr Right appears...

If love is a constant.... an 'always there', just awaiting us feeble humans to tap into it, then it is a potential commodity..

Karma is correct, in my understandings, love is an overworked, blamed, and resented term used for anything from toilet paper to hot showers...whereas Like, that tiny little under rated term is rather rare these days...

If both terms were on the Commodities market, Like's value would be through the roof, as it is rarer, and Love is over used, and readily available, so would be of the lesser value.

In a nutshell, Love is not some mystical thing, ever elusive, and unobtainable...it's always there patiently waiting...for us idiot humans to figure it out.

I like Karma a lot, I respect him, I value him, as a person that I choose to walk this part of my journey with.... I have always loved him...


It's not rocket science, just semantics.:wink:

tomie's photo
Sat 02/23/08 03:58 AM

Tomie....

Love is a constant... there is no pause...

We feeble humans believe it is set on pause until Mr lustful, or Ms Wonderful, or commonly known as Ms or Mr Right appears...

If love is a constant.... an 'always there', just awaiting us feeble humans to tap into it, then it is a potential commodity..

Karma is correct, in my understandings, love is an overworked, blamed, and resented term used for anything from toilet paper to hot showers...whereas Like, that tiny little under rated term is rather rare these days...

If both terms were on the Commodities market, Like's value would be through the roof, as it is rarer, and Love is over used, and readily available, so would be of the lesser value.

In a nutshell, Love is not some mystical thing, ever elusive, and unobtainable...it's always there patiently waiting...for us idiot humans to figure it out.

I like Karma a lot, I respect him, I value him, as a person that I choose to walk this part of my journey with.... I have always loved him...


It's not rocket science, just semantics.:wink:


Good points and very well taken, Jesse. I guess we should look for the founder of 'love' and how it was placed in us. In my thinking, 'like' is the first stage of 'love'. Do you think this is wrong thinking?
Britty posted this in the coffeehouse and I thought it would be an appropiate post to place here.

He who knows Love
By Elsa Barker

HE who knows Love—becomes Love, and his eyes
Behold Love in the heart of everyone,
Even the loveless: as the light of the sun
Is one with all it touches. He is wise
With undivided wisdom, for he lies
In Wisdom’s arms. His wanderings are done,
For he has found the Source whence all things run—
The guerdon of the quest, that satisfies.

He who knows Love becomes Love, and he knows
All beings are himself, twin-born of Love.
Melted in Love’s own fire, his spirit flows
Into all earthly forms, below, above;
He is the breath and glamour of the rose,
He is the benediction of the dove.


Jess642's photo
Sat 02/23/08 04:07 AM
Tomie... we haven't had much opportunity to read each other's posts I suspect...

Firstly, the whole god male icon all knowing, all being... doesn't ring my bell, at all.

There is nothing within the christian story that draws me.

Each to their own... I find universal love, and the energy called Love that is available, to all, with no conditions, to be of a more organic nature, and less of a man made folklore.

We differ immediately with the root source of our comprehensions.. so I suspect it may be a challenge, to explain my understandings, if any religious connotations are attached.

no photo
Sat 02/23/08 05:02 AM

We differ immediately with the root source of our comprehensions.. so I suspect it may be a challenge, to explain my understandings...


I don't know if it is all that difficult. There are ways to translate most things so that reasonable people can understand each other.

For instance..

How about for the sake of conversation... we call the wisdom that connects us all, God?
Love, the faith in that wisdom, each other and self.
Spirit, the connections we have to that wisdom and love.

After all.. We are just manifestations of energy. Energy expressed in different ways.
Maybe when I cease to exist in my present form.. The chair I'm sitting in and I will trade places? Who knows?
Something had to come up with the idea of me before I could exist... Just as someone had to come up with the idea of my chair before it could.

I don't think it is so important what label we put on our beliefs.. It is more important that we live it spiritually to the best of our ability.

A good testament to that are those that speak less of it and do more of it.


tomie's photo
Sat 02/23/08 05:09 AM


We differ immediately with the root source of our comprehensions.. so I suspect it may be a challenge, to explain my understandings...


I don't know if it is all that difficult. There are ways to translate most things so that reasonable people can understand each other.

For instance..

How about for the sake of conversation... we call the wisdom that connects us all, God?
Love, the faith in that wisdom, each other and self.
Spirit, the connections we have to that wisdom and love.

After all.. We are just manifestations of energy. Energy expressed in different ways.
Maybe when I cease to exist in my present form.. The chair I'm sitting in and I will trade places? Who knows?
Something had to come up with the idea of me before I could exist... Just as someone had to come up with the idea of my chair before it could.

I don't think it is so important what label we put on our beliefs.. It is more important that we live it spiritually to the best of our ability.

A good testament to that are those that speak less of it and do more of it.




Thanks Jistme for putting out that fire. It could have been a scorcher.
Jesse, I always try to keep an open mind about things and was only attempting to seek other views, but being sterotyped because of my beliefs doesn't make me an enemy of the topic. There are many things I know not of and asking questions is a way of finding out. Sorry if you took my point in error.

Jess642's photo
Sat 02/23/08 05:18 AM


We differ immediately with the root source of our comprehensions.. so I suspect it may be a challenge, to explain my understandings...


I don't know if it is all that difficult. There are ways to translate most things so that reasonable people can understand each other.

For instance..

How about for the sake of conversation... we call the wisdom that connects us all, God?
Love, the faith in that wisdom, each other and self.
Spirit, the connections we have to that wisdom and love.

After all.. We are just manifestations of energy. Energy expressed in different ways.
Maybe when I cease to exist in my present form.. The chair I'm sitting in and I will trade places? Who knows?
Something had to come up with the idea of me before I could exist... Just as someone had to come up with the idea of my chair before it could.

I don't think it is so important what label we put on our beliefs.. It is more important that we live it spiritually to the best of our ability.

A good testament to that are those that speak less of it and do more of it.




Call it God, and you lost me instantly.

Do it, live it, be it?


You mean walk the talk?


I LIVE the walk....

anoasis's photo
Sat 02/23/08 05:28 AM
Edited by anoasis on Sat 02/23/08 05:48 AM

'so what am I so afraid of' lyrics from the bubble gum group known as the Patridge Family, I think.
We all say 'I love pizza, seafood, pets, flowers, music, dancing, friends, family, certain things but do we really love them or do we have certain degrees for our love. AND do we fear telling someone we love them without it meaning intimacey?


I think in general woman are less concerned about telling a friend or relative that they love them than men. At least American men.

I think the way we use the word "love" is also different when we speak of an inanimate object compared with a living creature, especially another human. If i say I "love" pizza I'm really just expressing a preference for this thing versus other things in a similar category (food). But if I say I love my child I mean that their safety and well-being is the most important thing in the world. Pizza is never the most important thing in the world.


anoasis's photo
Sat 02/23/08 05:41 AM



:smile: The "L" word, what a scary thought, I'd rather face lions and tiggers and bears laugh


Well, perhaps you will find your "lioness" one day. :smile:


flowerforyou

flowerforyou flowerforyou :smile:


Maybe you should practice telling your friends and family that you love them... then when you want to tell someone you love them romantically it won't be so scary- and hopefully by then you will be comfortable with loving them as a friend regardless of whether another kind of love is sought...


KalamazooGuy87's photo
Sat 02/23/08 05:44 AM

Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. Love never fails.
Thank you =) you explained love well in this one, one of my favorite quotes from the bible

KalamazooGuy87's photo
Sat 02/23/08 05:47 AM

Tomie... we haven't had much opportunity to read each other's posts I suspect...

Firstly, the whole god male icon all knowing, all being... doesn't ring my bell, at all.

There is nothing within the christian story that draws me.

Each to their own... I find universal love, and the energy called Love that is available, to all, with no conditions, to be of a more organic nature, and less of a man made folklore.

We differ immediately with the root source of our comprehensions.. so I suspect it may be a challenge, to explain my understandings, if any religious connotations are attached.


Energy dont make decisions and doesnt have a mind, and this energy you speak of sounds more like a folklore than my God.

anoasis's photo
Sat 02/23/08 05:47 AM


We differ immediately with the root source of our comprehensions.. so I suspect it may be a challenge, to explain my understandings...


I don't know if it is all that difficult. There are ways to translate most things so that reasonable people can understand each other.

For instance..

How about for the sake of conversation... we call the wisdom that connects us all, God?
Love, the faith in that wisdom, each other and self.
Spirit, the connections we have to that wisdom and love.

After all.. We are just manifestations of energy. Energy expressed in different ways.
Maybe when I cease to exist in my present form.. The chair I'm sitting in and I will trade places? Who knows?
Something had to come up with the idea of me before I could exist... Just as someone had to come up with the idea of my chair before it could.

I don't think it is so important what label we put on our beliefs.. It is more important that we live it spiritually to the best of our ability.

A good testament to that are those that speak less of it and do more of it.




Nice. flowerforyou


Jess642's photo
Sat 02/23/08 06:08 AM


Tomie... we haven't had much opportunity to read each other's posts I suspect...

Firstly, the whole god male icon all knowing, all being... doesn't ring my bell, at all.

There is nothing within the christian story that draws me.

Each to their own... I find universal love, and the energy called Love that is available, to all, with no conditions, to be of a more organic nature, and less of a man made folklore.

We differ immediately with the root source of our comprehensions.. so I suspect it may be a challenge, to explain my understandings, if any religious connotations are attached.


Energy dont make decisions and doesnt have a mind, and this energy you speak of sounds more like a folklore than my God.


kalamazoo...defender of his Universe... how goes it????:wink:

karmafury's photo
Sat 02/23/08 06:13 AM


Tomie... we haven't had much opportunity to read each other's posts I suspect...

Firstly, the whole god male icon all knowing, all being... doesn't ring my bell, at all.

There is nothing within the christian story that draws me.

Each to their own... I find universal love, and the energy called Love that is available, to all, with no conditions, to be of a more organic nature, and less of a man made folklore.

We differ immediately with the root source of our comprehensions.. so I suspect it may be a challenge, to explain my understandings, if any religious connotations are attached.


Energy dont make decisions and doesnt have a mind, and this energy you speak of sounds more like a folklore than my God.



Love has no religion, no god.

no photo
Sat 02/23/08 06:13 AM
Edited by Jistme on Sat 02/23/08 06:14 AM

I LIVE the walk....


I like to believe that you do. I've seen no evidence to the contrary.

I'd be lying if I said there aren't those that use religion and church as a weapon.. as a power.. as an absolution for their behavior w/o consideration to changing the behavior.
That is a human dynamic that transcends religions, beliefs... monotheistic or otherwise.
Everything about it goes against that greater wisdom, in my opinion. So does blaming the belief.

feralcatlady's photo
Sat 02/23/08 09:32 AM


I LIVE the walk....


I like to believe that you do. I've seen no evidence to the contrary.

I'd be lying if I said there aren't those that use religion and church as a weapon.. as a power.. as an absolution for their behavior w/o consideration to changing the behavior.
That is a human dynamic that transcends religions, beliefs... monotheistic or otherwise.
Everything about it goes against that greater wisdom, in my opinion. So does blaming the belief.


I feel that their are alot of peeps that talk the talk and don't walk the walk....just as there are those who are what I call pue warmers......But I also think at least for me my relationship with God, His son, Jesus Christ, and my church are very personal....I also feel strongly that those who know me.....know the truth and those that don't will eventually learn.