Topic: GET OUT AND VOTE!!
FaithfulOne78's photo
Tue 01/29/08 09:14 PM
You may be right on that fact..we may never know...but everyone who is mad that our troops are over there..and keep saying that Bush is wrong for sending them and that he is wrong for maing them go.....The men and women that are there...are there because THEY SIGNED UP FOR THE JOB...NO ONE MADE THEM DO IT!...No one forced anyone to go into the army...people did it because they care..they want to make a difference..and to me..they are heros who can never get enough praise for what they do everyday to make our land so great!

trying_to_fly's photo
Tue 01/29/08 09:15 PM

While I am not American and thus cannot vote in this election, I am following it with interest because it does affect the world. While I don't like Hilary at all, in fact there's a lot of issues I disagree with her on, I still think she's better than any of the republican candidates. But then again, I don't see much difference between either party though that's just my opinion.

She is FAR FAR WORSE than any of the republican candidates!! She's a liar, a cheater and a theif!! After Bill's term was up and they left the white house, they stole some White House furniture that BELONGED in the white house.....bet you didn't hear about that one did ya!!

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Tue 01/29/08 09:17 PM

You may be right on that fact..we may never know...but everyone who is mad that our troops are over there..and keep saying that Bush is wrong for sending them and that he is wrong for maing them go.....The men and women that are there...are there because THEY SIGNED UP FOR THE JOB...NO ONE MADE THEM DO IT!...No one forced anyone to go into the army...people did it because they care..they want to make a difference..and to me..they are heros who can never get enough praise for what they do everyday to make our land so great!

AMEN FOR THAT ONE!! This is the ONLY thing I think Bush has done right. It's gonna take someone like Romney, Mcain or Obama to get this country back in shape. And they will too. The will make a difference. I'm getting sick and tired of seeing Bush's and Clinton's in the White House!! We need a change and ANY of the 3 that I mentioned will do an AWESOME JOB at making changes for this country!!

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Tue 01/29/08 09:18 PM


You may be right on that fact..we may never know...but everyone who is mad that our troops are over there..and keep saying that Bush is wrong for sending them and that he is wrong for maing them go.....The men and women that are there...are there because THEY SIGNED UP FOR THE JOB...NO ONE MADE THEM DO IT!...No one forced anyone to go into the army...people did it because they care..they want to make a difference..and to me..they are heros who can never get enough praise for what they do everyday to make our land so great!

AMEN FOR THAT ONE!! This is the ONLY thing I think Bush has done right. It's gonna take someone like Romney, Mcain or Obama to get this country back in shape. And they will too. The will make a difference. I'm getting sick and tired of seeing Bush's and Clinton's in the White House!! We need a change and ANY of the 3 that I mentioned will do an AWESOME JOB at making changes for this country!!


Well Said!!! Cheers! drinker drinker

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Tue 01/29/08 09:19 PM

You may be right on that fact..we may never know...but everyone who is mad that our troops are over there..and keep saying that Bush is wrong for sending them and that he is wrong for maing them go.....The men and women that are there...are there because THEY SIGNED UP FOR THE JOB...NO ONE MADE THEM DO IT!...No one forced anyone to go into the army...people did it because they care..they want to make a difference..and to me..they are heros who can never get enough praise for what they do everyday to make our land so great!


You are right in they signed up for the job, but that doesnt mean that they are over there for the right reasons. i honestly don't know why we are still over there.

we went into iraq looking for weapons of mass distruction, found we were wrong, but we are still there... why?!? I really don't know.

(those are lecture questions, lol, they are honest i dont know questions.)

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Tue 01/29/08 09:21 PM


You may be right on that fact..we may never know...but everyone who is mad that our troops are over there..and keep saying that Bush is wrong for sending them and that he is wrong for maing them go.....The men and women that are there...are there because THEY SIGNED UP FOR THE JOB...NO ONE MADE THEM DO IT!...No one forced anyone to go into the army...people did it because they care..they want to make a difference..and to me..they are heros who can never get enough praise for what they do everyday to make our land so great!


You are right in they signed up for the job, but that doesnt mean that they are over there for the right reasons. i honestly don't know why we are still over there.

we went into iraq looking for weapons of mass distruction, found we were wrong, but we are still there... why?!? I really don't know.

(those are lecture questions, lol, they are honest i dont know questions.)


They are still there..but coming back slowly...if we just up and pull everyone out and come home...we will have another attack on our soil...it's guarenteed...we need to work out slowly..and soon...things will be made right..just takes..hard work...paitence..time...and support.

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Tue 01/29/08 09:22 PM


You may be right on that fact..we may never know...but everyone who is mad that our troops are over there..and keep saying that Bush is wrong for sending them and that he is wrong for maing them go.....The men and women that are there...are there because THEY SIGNED UP FOR THE JOB...NO ONE MADE THEM DO IT!...No one forced anyone to go into the army...people did it because they care..they want to make a difference..and to me..they are heros who can never get enough praise for what they do everyday to make our land so great!


You are right in they signed up for the job, but that doesnt mean that they are over there for the right reasons. i honestly don't know why we are still over there.

we went into iraq looking for weapons of mass distruction, found we were wrong, but we are still there... why?!? I really don't know.

(those are lecture questions, lol, they are honest i dont know questions.)

You have every right to have questions like that. I think they are over there, trying go get the Iraqis to establish some form of government of their own and to keep fighting the terrorists that are invading their homeland and trying to keep them out. This is my opinion.....

trying_to_fly's photo
Tue 01/29/08 09:23 PM



You may be right on that fact..we may never know...but everyone who is mad that our troops are over there..and keep saying that Bush is wrong for sending them and that he is wrong for maing them go.....The men and women that are there...are there because THEY SIGNED UP FOR THE JOB...NO ONE MADE THEM DO IT!...No one forced anyone to go into the army...people did it because they care..they want to make a difference..and to me..they are heros who can never get enough praise for what they do everyday to make our land so great!


You are right in they signed up for the job, but that doesnt mean that they are over there for the right reasons. i honestly don't know why we are still over there.

we went into iraq looking for weapons of mass distruction, found we were wrong, but we are still there... why?!? I really don't know.

(those are lecture questions, lol, they are honest i dont know questions.)


They are still there..but coming back slowly...if we just up and pull everyone out and come home...we will have another attack on our soil...it's guarenteed...we need to work out slowly..and soon...things will be made right..just takes..hard work...paitence..time...and support.

Well said and cheers to you on that onedrinker

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Tue 01/29/08 09:23 PM
I know we can not just up and pull out, but recently we had the largest deployment that we've had yet. I dont understand how we are slowly pulling out if he continues activating large groups of soliders.

FaithfulOne78's photo
Tue 01/29/08 09:25 PM

I know we can not just up and pull out, but recently we had the largest deployment that we've had yet. I dont understand how we are slowly pulling out if he continues activating large groups of soliders.


it's where he's deploying them to and where we are pulling them from that is key....not everyone that gets deployed goes to Iraq..yes a great deal of them do..but not all....and I see your point of view..and this is mine.flowerforyou

trying_to_fly's photo
Tue 01/29/08 09:28 PM

I know we can not just up and pull out, but recently we had the largest deployment that we've had yet. I dont understand how we are slowly pulling out if he continues activating large groups of soliders.

There's a HUGE mess over there. We still need large numbers. He's bringing soldiers home that have been there a while and rotating new ones. We still need a lot over there. That country is in HELL right now and it's gonna take us, english, french and their own military to clean it up. There was a lot of damage that WAS done and that currently IS being done to that country. You have to realize that this country knows WAR and that pretty much is it. We need to have them ESTABLISH some sort of legal system and found their country on a government.....rather than violence. And, this is what Bush is trying to do over there. Which is another good thing...

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Tue 01/29/08 09:30 PM


I know we can not just up and pull out, but recently we had the largest deployment that we've had yet. I dont understand how we are slowly pulling out if he continues activating large groups of soliders.

There's a HUGE mess over there. We still need large numbers. He's bringing soldiers home that have been there a while and rotating new ones. We still need a lot over there. That country is in HELL right now and it's gonna take us, english, french and their own military to clean it up. There was a lot of damage that WAS done and that currently IS being done to that country. You have to realize that this country knows WAR and that pretty much is it. We need to have them ESTABLISH some sort of legal system and found their country on a government.....rather than violence. And, this is what Bush is trying to do over there. Which is another good thing...


:smile: Very well said...and stated....bigsmile

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Tue 01/29/08 09:32 PM
Edited by SkepticalBrian on Tue 01/29/08 09:36 PM

She is FAR FAR WORSE than any of the republican candidates!! She's a liar, a cheater and a theif!! After Bill's term was up and they left the white house, they stole some White House furniture that BELONGED in the white house.....bet you didn't hear about that one did ya!!


Nope, as a matter of fact I didn't.

I don't know, the one republican I was at first hoping would win was Ron Paul, but further research caused me to realize he was a total nut case, and makes some dishonest claims such as never voting for an earmark, which on the surface is true, but he doesn't tell the whole story, he added earmarks at times and then voted against them knowing the bills would pass anyway, and other stuff of the like. (hope there's not many Ron Paul supporters reading this, I'm probably going to get an earful for that statement.)

I guess what I forget sometimes is that actions are more important than what the candidates say. After I made my post, I remembered that she was a strong supporter of Bill's bombings on Iraq. But still, she is what she is, a dirty politician.


Oh and for the Ron Paul supporters who take offense to what I say, because I'm sure there's at least one, here's a couple articles critical of him, just so you can't say I made that stuff up.
http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=e2f15397-a3c7-4720-ac15-4532a7da84ca
http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=74978161-f730-43a2-91c3-de262573a129

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Tue 01/29/08 09:36 PM


She is FAR FAR WORSE than any of the republican candidates!! She's a liar, a cheater and a theif!! After Bill's term was up and they left the white house, they stole some White House furniture that BELONGED in the white house.....bet you didn't hear about that one did ya!!


Nope, as a matter of fact I didn't.

I don't know, the one republican I was at first hoping would win was Ron Paul, but further research caused me to realize he was a total nut case, and makes some dishonest claims such as never voting for an earmark, which on the surface is true, but he doesn't tell the whole story, he added earmarks at times and then voted against them knowing the bills would pass anyway, and other stuff of the like. (hope there's not many Ron Paul supporters reading this, I'm probably going to get an earful for that statement.)

I guess what I forget sometimes is that actions are more important than what the candidates say. After I made my post, I remembered that she was a strong supporter of Bill's bombings on Iraq. But still, she is what she is, a dirty politician.


Oh and for the Ron Paul supporters who take offense to what I say, because I'm sure there's at least one, here's a couple articles critical of him.
http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=e2f15397-a3c7-4720-ac15-4532a7da84ca
http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=74978161-f730-43a2-91c3-de262573a129

Don't worry, I'm not a Ron Paul supporter. I'm with whomever is going to do a GREAT JOB supporter and it is either Romney, Mcain or Obama. THEY...care about our country other than Hillary f**king Clinton who just cares about herself and has to CHEAT to try to get delegates where Obama is being a TOTAL gentleman.

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Tue 01/29/08 09:44 PM
As for ever voting for someone like Hillary who can't even make up her mind if she's for or against something..it will never ever happen...I'm for the war...oh wait I was misinformed..I made a mistake...i'm not for the war anymore...can my vote be taken back?! Damn I hate her!

andreajayne's photo
Tue 01/29/08 09:46 PM
I sound like I'm asking questions as an uninformed citizen when I'm not one at all. I just have lived all of this first hand, I have heard what the Soldiers have said first hand, and thats why I don't understand why we are still there. They agree with what has been done, but a lot of them think that it is a waste of time for us being there.

Dragoness's photo
Tue 01/29/08 09:49 PM
Hillary will do a good job, vote for Hillarydevil bigsmile

FaithfulOne78's photo
Tue 01/29/08 09:54 PM
I really hope your not serious!! grumble happy

trying_to_fly's photo
Tue 01/29/08 09:55 PM

Hillary will do a good job, vote for Hillarydevil bigsmile

I know this is a free country......but......it's not free for you......GO HOME!!drinker laugh

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Tue 01/29/08 10:06 PM
yawn well this discussion has been very interesting and fun..but I need to get some sleep...gotta be up in 5 hrs..grumble Have a great night everyone!flowerforyou