i dont really like to go out and chase women around and i am kinda quiet.... well, now i am... i used to be all emo and depressed but i got outta that now i'm a shy guy in a dating slump... any good LOGICAL advice?

get out there! keep believing in yourself and be outgoing. shine darlin!

18 u got alot of time

sometimes it doesnt feel like it to me...

Do you have interests that you could engage in with other people? Like book clubs or cooking classes or something? That way, you'd already have an easy topic you could bring up with someone.

yeah, i really like cars and electronics... that and i am kinda the dr. phil in my group of friends...

What do you mean? (I despise Dr. Phil..)

show some confidence. Be yourself. keep posting in the forums. and be patient good things can happen.

well, not really dr. phil... i help with their problems.... i dont give fantastic advice but i'm always here for them...

Well that's a good quality to have, definitely.

well, there's like a barrier for me... i always end up as the really good friend or the brother to most of my female friends.... wait, correction... all of my female friends... i'm kinda stuk at that point...

Have you talked to them about it? If you are that close to them, you could ask them what kinds of things they suggest you try to try to form a romantic relationship with someone. They know you better than we do, we're strangers!

Break out of your shell. You don't have to be loud and obnoxious, but shyness can come off as a weakness, not only in dating, but in life in general. Try not to be shy. Don't think too far ahead when trying to approach women, don't worry about it too much, just have fun, introduce yourself, start a conversation.

well, sometimes it seems like they dont want to be friends anywhay and most of them dont tell me what they want me to change about myself, they just spew corny excuses as to why they wont date me or will never date me...

i'm really good at starting a conversation it's just that i'm afraid that sometimes i'll get made fun of. i really care about what other people think of me...

You're a "nice guy".

Read up on PUA, it can be useful even if you're not trying to be a "player".

Hmmmm...
We are all here on a Saturday night...
Probably not the best group to ask.

If you're afraid of being made fun of then you do care what people think. At least to a certain extent. And take totage's advice, lol.

question... whats pua?

I, too, am very shy and worry a lot about what people will think of the things I say. However, you have to learn that what you say is who you are. And if people aren't okay with what you have to say, then they won't be okay with you and that's not a problem with who you are. You just aren't compatible with that person and you should keep looking for someone with whom you are compatible. Two of the most fantastic people may not always be compatible. So don't be afraid of who you are and what you have to say -- it's what makes you who you are.