Before the start of the US college football season "experts" were predicting that crowded football stadiums would be "super spreader" events.

It appears a lot of the "experts", especially "experts" governments employ, were wrong (again) with dire predictions and warnings that seemed to be intended to instilled fear in people.

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/politico-nightly/2021/10/14/the-covid-spike-that-didnt-happen-494708

Article headline: "The Covid spike that didn't happen"

https://news.ufl.edu/2021/10/no-covid-spikes-from-football/

Article headline: "So far, COVID-19 spikes from college football games haven’t materialized"

I'm not trying infer or insinuate people should ignore "experts".....I'm saying don't just pay attention to who a government parades around the media. Fearful people are easier to control and governments have used fear to control people. Hierarchies have used fear to maintain control whether it's in a tribe, a religion, a country or even today through international organizations like "World Climate Foundation" who are trying to scare people into compliance with their agenda.

'trump" counties have aver 3 times as many covid deaths.

even from a perspective of votes there should be some reconsideration of the matter

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/red-covid-coronavirus-deaths-are-highest-in-counties-with-the-largest-share-of-trump-voters-report-11632764116

These climate organizations lose a lot of credibility with me, when I find out they have ties, and funding from the government. What fool is going to put his paycheck on the chopping block by saying there is no such thing as climate change?

Did you expect that the NY Times or that Market Watch, which is part of the NBC family, would give an unbiased account of covid deaths????
I don't like getting political when it comes to Covid but since YOU WENT there then lets go there.

Try going to a different source like https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/health-equity/racial-ethnic-disparities/disparities-deaths.html

It CLEARLY states that "Data on race and ethnicity for more than 90% of people who died from COVID-19 reveal that the percent of Hispanic or Latino, non-Hispanic Black, and non-Hispanic American Indian or Alaska Native people who have died from COVID-19 (red bars) is higher than the percent of these racial and ethnic groups among the total U.S. population" "This disparity is even greater when the percentages are age-standardized (adjusted for differences in the age distribution across racial and ethnic groups). Hispanic or Latino, non-Hispanic Black, and non-Hispanic American Indian or Alaska Native people also have a disproportionate burden of COVID-19 deaths among specific age groups across the lifespan – children, youth, adults, and older adults."


"Studies have revealed similar findings on the disproportionate burden of COVID-19 deaths among some racial and ethnic minority groups. 1, 2 A study of selected states and cities with data on COVID-19 deaths by race and ethnicity showed that 34% of deaths were among non-Hispanic Black people, though this group accounts for only 12% of the total U.S. population."


Biden won the votes of MOST "non-Hispanic Black people".....but unlike YOU who seemingly celebrates the Covid deaths of Trump voters I WILL NOT celebrate the deaths of ANYONE, ANY RACE regardless of their political affiliation or who they voted for.

Sleepy joe shows his hypocrisy again. With the warning of a new variant on the rise in Africa hypocrite joe puts a travel ban to and from Africa . When Mr Trump did it in 2020 joe said he was a racist and xenophobic. Why the change joe. Here’s a guy with no scruples and no integrity. No wonder his pole numbers are the lowest of any modern day president. How can anybody take this fool seriously? Joe Must Go!

I question the value of the vaccine. I had it before they were even calling it covid. I have the covid toes to back it up.

(By the way, it does go away. Had it on my left foot, that cleared. Now the right has two, and that's going away.It took about a year for that to happen)

Now, two people I know got their shots. One went in for covid, he spent 4 days in the hospital. Five days AFTER he got his shots. His wife wasn't so fortunate, he planted her two weeks ago.

So lets just sit around and grouse about the unvaxxinated ones spreading it. And how those that did aren't getting it. Don't forget, I knew no one before the vaccines were in place, that died. Now I do, AFTER they had gotten their shots.

Biden has put a ban on several countries, from traveling to America, because of the new variant in South Africa.

Mandated vaccinations are definitely dividing people.

Sorry to hear about your loss, Red.
In my experience / observations, the shots are somewhat risky for seniors above 85 based on their health - frailness

Some of us may find this interesting.
LA County Sheriff's advice on how to carry people in his department instead of enforcing mandate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvoJGviRRXA

These people weren't seniors, but they were overweight.
A common problem with most covid patients, was that they had other illness that aggravated their existing conditions. I read the other day, that actual covid only deaths occurred in 6% of those who got it.
When I was a kid, I hardly knew anybody that was fat. As an adult, I hardly know anyone that ISN'T fat.
A full 50% of covid related deaths happened when the patient was excessively fat to obese.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7010e4.htm

Now,I found out back a couple years ago, that flu shots really don't start protecting overweight folks for up to 90 days after being vaccinated. I scared a few people that were faithfully getting flu shots for years, because they didn't know that. I suspect that it's the same with getting a covid shot. Yet, I have yet to hear anyone say that your covid shot might not kick in for up to 90 day after, if you are fat.

I didn't set out to offend those who carry around extra weight. But those who do get it, better understand that you put yourself at risk for a rougher time getting over covid.

the UN met today and have now posted “Omicron poses a very high global risk “. Protecting international borders is a sensible and warranted reaction .

But this variant hasn't been studied yet. Nobody knows exactly how strong, or weak this one is. Five days into it does not warrant going into a full blown panic mode yet.
Restricting travel? Might not be such a horrible idea. To assume that the sky is falling, instantly?

Really dumb move.

I agree. So why are the democrats so bent on Not protecting our international border with Mexico . Studies say that 25% of the immigrants coming into the U.S. have covid. Not much protection if you ask me, but this s what we get when we elect elitist politicians only interested in personal privilege and power . Joe Must Go!

I don't have a problem with travel bans or restrictions to or from any country as a precaution to prevent the spread of anything that posses a health risk. I don't have a problem with Biden imposing a travel ban from African countries because I didn't have a problem with Trump doing the same thing to help protect Americans. The number one priority of the president is to protect Americans from risks posed from ANY other country. But it shouldn't be ignored that what Biden has shown with this action and what the MSM has done with Biden's ban compared to Trump's ban is that the same decisions are good or evil depending on the political party of the person making the decision.

I do have a problem with the W.H.O saying “Omicron poses a very high global risk" this early in the study of this variant after they downplayed the risk from the Covid-19 was 1st detected. I have to wonder is the origin of this variant being in Africa and the origin of Covid-19 being in China the reason for the difference in the W.H.O's declarations.

oops double post

they also admit, that they know nothing about it. it is just a new variant of concern.

https://news.un.org/en/story/2021/11/1106672

it is currently being reported in Africa as the symptoms being extremely mild (comparatively),and generally weakening after 2-3 days. like the common cold or a mild flu.
the RISK is that it may evade the current vaccines, because it is 32 times removed from the original spike protein the current vaccines are based on.

the actual WHO report, not what is being reported about it.
it basically admits they know nothing, but feel it warrant's their concern.
https://www.who.int/news/item/26-11-2021-classification-of-omicron-(b.1.1.529)-sars-cov-2-variant-of-concern

not enough info yet on Omicron virus but I’ve heard symptoms are mild compared to covid 19, ive also heard it is more contagious. I agree w/ the travel ban even though I wonder why if it is such an emergency why wait 48 hours to enact the ban. ( sleepy I guess). Also there is no guarantee it originated in Africa. joe said no shut down . You can take that with a grain of salt after his “no mask mandate “ lie.

just remember when trump was saying these vaccines were on the way, get vaccinated, under warp speed.
harris/ biden was saying it was too risky and no one should get them. harris said she would never take any vaccine developed under trump.
biden said, there was no vaccine plan in place when he took office, when over 1 million people had already been vaccinated,
he also said there would be no vaccine mandates and he promised no lock downs under his watch,
after the vaccine mandates were announced, he said the mask mandates would end. noting he has said since taking office, including his OATH of office to defend the constitution. has any truth to it.

reminds me a lot of the series: the last ship.

When Biden said there was no vaccine plan in place he also said he had to start from scratch...and he made these comments AFTER he had ALREADY been vaccinated when Trump was STILL in office.
Biden got his 1st vaccine shot in December 2020, Harris got hers shortly after Biden, which was after the presidential election....maybe Biden and Harris thought it was too "risky" politically to show they trusted a vaccine before winning the election.