Its True that ,Lying and Stealing are Next Door Neighbors !
What would you do if you found out that your Very Best Friend at work was Lying and Stealing ???

Hugh, in my younger days of childhood if it wasn't nailed down I would steal it. I didn't steal it for any reason other than to just do it. I also lied, cheated and caused mischief. There was a lot of anger in me.

As I got older the anger faded and I was less of a nuisance. My friends (the gang of people I hung out with, maintained their destructive behavior and slowly we had less and less in common.

Those friendships faded out over time. Most of them ended up in juvenile detention and eventually prison. I didn't take that path.

When I grew up and assumed responsibility for my actions I realized there was something else in life besides causing mischief. I realized lying and cheating were underhanded and untrustworthy and I didn't want to teach my own children to have such anger.

At work, I didn't try to control others. This didn't mean I wasn't paying attention. I knew who I could and couldn't trust. I wasn't the type of person to turn them in or out them as liars but I also didn't encourage that behavior.

When my x started lying to me it was the end of our marriage. I gave her many chances to change her ways, even tried to talk out why she was doing it but she just didn't care.

Now that I am much older I see no reason to lie or steal. I will not tolerate it in my life. I have the freedom to choose the people in my life. My children lie sometimes. They know I know they are lying. I believe they can't help themselves. I blame their mother but I also blame myself because they saw me tolerate their mom's lying.

I don't care if someone else lies or steals when they lie or steal from an entity but when someone steals from a person or lies to a person to hurt them, I won't tolerate that. There's different levels to lying and stealing.

I see people who shoplift as stupid. Pilferage is a different level of stealing unless its way over the top. Pick-pockets are awful. Breaking into a store is different than breaking into someone's home.

Lying with little white lies is different than lying to save-face. Lying to hurt someone is different than lying to build oneself up...and so on.

Lying and stealing is a sign of a weak mind. However, it can also be a sign of desperation. Plus, it can be a compulsive act which has the same effect as addiction.

What I do when I encounter it is directly related to who is doing it and why plus who they are doing it to and why.
I'm not a saint. I've walked those paths before so I am not as judgemental as others might be. I do know when I was doing it, I was dealing with many things which made me feel without control. My life was in turmoil and I lashed out or attempted to take control of something, anything so I could feel better. I found inner peace. I embraced responsibility. Not everyone has the inner strength to do that.

According to a German proverb, Genuis and Madness live in the same house. They are not even neighbors

I do not have to look outside my own family to find liars and thieves.
What do I do?
Avoid.

Ditto~~~ those that lie & steal know what they do and if they think those around them don't know they should wake up...

What goes around comes around... sooner or later they will get caught or grow up..

Until then I avoid those that are like that..

Heck, I know of a family member I will not leave my purse laying around due to them.. Everyone knows in the family who they are.. so not like they don't know... But we still choose to invite them to our family gatherings..

Humm now if they were a co-worker where I worked at different story since my brother and his best friend are the owners where I did work.. I would bring them out front and center..

Actually did with an employee that was stealing water and not dropping their 50 cents into the box. This was like 3-4 times a day and everyone is told the water cost and it is done on an honor system.. Yet he chose to steal it.. Yes, I said something after I had the proof.. The sodas/water profit went towards the employee's lunches & parties we had. He was not stealing from the company persay but from all the employee's he worked with..

"Stealin' When I should've Been Buyin'"

Uriah Heep, 1973

The first step is to make sure that he is not stealing or lying on you.

If so, make a notice with proof to the top level boss, not immediate boss.

If not so, check if he is gonna do any damage to company at work.

Be a friend and act a spy on him.

I do not keep friendships,
or associations, with ANYONE
who lies or steals.

IDGAF who they are.

IME it's been more like stealing and lying are bedmates.
I mean tons of people lie without stealing (although, technically I guess you could say people lying are stealing your time).

But IME people that steal will always lie about it.
A lot of the jobs I worked, when younger, had overlap with loss prevention.
Every time someone would be questioned about stealing, embezzling, fraud, whatever, they would always lie about it.
Didn't matter if we caught them directly in the act, had video tape, paper trails, or even blatant confessions, it was always lie lie lie.


"Very best friend at work?"
That means they aren't really my friend in "real life."
I'd report them, especially if there was a reward (like many companies do) on reporting loss.
But it would kind of depend on the evidence I had or could get.

It would also depend on what exactly they're stealing and lying about.
I mean it's one thing for "my very best friend" at work to steal someone's sandwich out of the fridge while lying to me about how hot the chick was he banged over the weekend, and embezzling $10,000, lying and making it look like someone else did it ensuring the other person was fired and/or prosecuted.

Old Irish Blessing

“May you never steal, lie or cheat.
But if you must steal,
then steal away my sorrows,
and if you must lie,
lie with me all the
nights of my life,
and if you must cheat,
then please cheat death
because I couldn’t live
a day without you.”

Just thought I’d add something nice to the thread

Thankeeeeeuuuuuuu , T 4 U Here , for your Breezing Comments I Liked the Second last stance which is Really Correct .

Well Said Larsi Triple 6,
Nothing more i should Add here !

You are right , There are many People specially Women's who do not indulge or like to Peep or look into matter of others . Staying Neutral should be the Best!

TXG four 3 ,

Here i should make it a Point that If anyone say One Lie and to Hide that One lie he should say another 1000 Lies just to cover himself .

You are right , I Report that to my Boss. If he Threatens me What Shall I Do ??
He may be my Good Friend , but when Money Matters , the Subject changes Totally,

Thks for your Comments Here !

How would you Judge that your Friend is not a Liar or he is not Stealing . May be he must be doing it Secretly , And you are not Aware !?

Well That's a Nice one from you ..

A Thief is a "Thief" whether he Steals a Diamond or a Almond !!

Thanks Ciretom ..
Stealing is a Lazy Man's Way ..!

Real Men cant be Stolen !