Hi Cleve, just wanter to tell you how I liked your answer, mostly the "teaching" part. It confirmee me that you can really shape your relationships if you know consciously what you want and also express it clearly.

I also think the terms commitment or loyalty are shifting in their meaning. It would be nice to talk about it. I'm looking for a topic "virtual/real love" or sg like that or may create one myself.

SJB84 - I have found over the past decade people do not know how the dating process works and therefore skip dating for cheap words like "hangout" "meet up" then jump to well let's hangout at home, claim a relationship. Which is fine if it's been wks/mths and the dating stage has progressed to an exclusive relationship.
Dates/dating, is intended for single people to get out and observe how they and their date interact in daily situations(its not a relationship yet) like being stuck in traffic, are they rude to servers, do they flirt with other people, do they make you feel good or obligatory for innuendos later, do they complement you or critique your style, can they hold a conversation without turning it into a argument, do they treat you more then a friend or coworker in public. True character (body language n facial expressions are essential in dating) is in how they act around others not just you in a isolated bedroom or private chat. Actions say more then words....so these
daters online need to get out from behind the key board and date in the real world...or they are just playing games to limit the effort and possible rejection. Any person afraid to handle a low level rejection at the dating stage is not emotionally available or ready for a long term relationship.

The big trick is finding someone TO date. I gave up long ago. Dating got expensive. Women got ether exceptionally picky,stubborn, or just plain old obstinate.
There just wasn't many places to meet up with single women in my area. I wasn't fond of anchoring down a barstool every weekend just to see the same women wander by.Then when it got warm, I decided that a sunday ride was better than drinking on saturday, and feeling lazy on sunday.

Complain all you want to. I edited dating out of my life.

I was dating up until I took my first international job. I haven't dated since. I have zero interest in a 90-day fiance situation, so I won't date in the countries I'm living. When I do go home for a visit (USA), I want to spend my time with family. But I'm thinking about giving dating a whirl the next time I go home.

Yeah, long distance relationships hardly work out , but nothing wrong with planting seeds by going the new way of dating ..... WhatsApp / Face time etc etc ha ha !!!
Yup dating is alive and kicking it ..

You're right about WhatsApp & Face time--it definitely can be fun! Flirting is always a good time!

Hello Hello

Spoken very truthfully and may I add that the initial start of meeting someone new can die if the wrong thing is said. how sad. I expect to be treated respectfully but I guess ghosting is the new way to avoid being polite about stating you are not interested.

yes, flirting keeps you mentally prepared for anything ... someone once told me forget about everything and just go for broke ... i am happy to report I am broke now ... but still happy enough to flirt ...like you !!!!

Hey, how did you know I was broke?

easy ! i used to watch a show called ... two broke girls .... one looks like you .... and I was smitten .....to bad the show finished .....

so people are still dating dang .... i feel like chopped liver now ....help!! ha ha !!