https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RH-fNyJnr_Y John Macarthur a pastor does the best research on the covid i have found.

he mentions the fact over the last 5 years the amount of deaths in the world hasn't changed but what has changed is the amount of people dying of heart related issues are now allegedly dying of the covid.

personally i have noticed a world wide trend away from health and towards money and pills. billionaires are getting richer and the middle class is taking a hit as per usual.
also due to the lock downs food is scarcer and people are more dependant on governments making socialism seem like a good thing.

also because of lock downs suicides and depression is up, as is all manor of addictions, obesity is rampant from sitting around and eating and diabetes is up accordingly.

The morbidity rate is now calculated at 2% or less world wide which is what a normal flu would be.
Several years ago i read "the true story of the bildeberg group" several times. In it the writer shows how wealthy individuals along with politicians and media moguls meet once a year since 1954 to discuss creating a one world government utopia for the rich and powerful...
The bible talks about the antichrist kingdom which is also about a dominating one world government taking over in the last days.

Allegedly hospitals are getting between 14 and 39 thousand dollars for everyone that dies of the covid this is perhaps going on world wide....

Elites are counting on peons going along with the program for as long as the elites want. Mr. Gates the other day predicted another virus following this one. He is one of the ones making bank of the virus...no film at 11....

Covid is real . As a critical care health professional it is really distressing to hear people claim covid is a scam or downplay the seriousness of this virus . Invite you all to volunteer at a hospital and get a dose of reality

Yes it is very real and terrible.

why are Sweden's numbers better than us then? They are not punishing the healthy but telling the infirm to stay home not the healthy...find me a place in new orleans to volunteer and i will....

a little update for you on Sweden’s covid response ...

http://newseu.cgtn.com/news/2021-01-13/Why-Sweden-has-abandoned-its-COVID-19-strategy-WYqAcyb3Vu/share_amp.html

Tested positive for covid19 on January 6 2021. In isolation with my children who also tested positive (they had no issues) it was the sickest I've ever been in my life. I ended up having a co-infection of shingles. The left side of my body broke out in a painful and blistering rash from that and then I had what's known as covid rash on my stomach. I went back to work Jan 21 because i was told I had to have a negative test before returning. I was released from out health dept on the 16 of January. Its Feb 7 I'm still suffering from a lingering cough which has my ribs sore and brain fog. I also have developed a rapid heartrate. I lost three cousins while I was in isolation. Doesn't get more real for me. Weight gain and depression has been a battle since the start. I dont even want to talk about missing Bon Jovi and Brian Adam's in concert.

nowadays it is not illegal to lie in the u.s. and probably most of the world...doctors even have conflicting opinions like scientists with global warming...

reading another blurb is not in my agenda...i'm sorry you suffered through it...if i were your doctor i would ask you a bunch of questions to understand better but i am not....i was in really bad shape before the covid and was in emergency 3 months in a row and given opioids at a time when they were trying not to give out opioids, i had back trouble and heart trouble and kidney stones...after that the covid hit and i live in a retirement home with a lot of old people ....life happens to us all...i am sure the healthy are suffering as much as anyone when they lose their jobs etc and told to sit this one out and maybe the next one and who knows how many...

like with the election we make up our minds and pick a side right or wrong we can live with until maybe we get it and we either get over it quickly or don't and maybe we change our minds depending on our experience...japan evidently is having a suicide epidemic worse than the covid as their people generally associate themselves with their work more than the average nation and when you take away their work you are taking away their identity oftentimes.

I work in health care too. Some people ought to take a walk through the temporary morgues set up in refrigerator trucks outside of hospitals. It might just change their minds about what's real.

Covid is real and should be taken seriously especially by people who are in the "high risk" group.

What is also real is there are politicians who have, and are, using Covid as an excuse for more control over the lives of people and violate not only constitutional rights but basic human rights.

Here in Michigan our governor told us she was using science to make decisions regarding restrictions. When Covid restrictions were implemented you couldn't buy a can of paint at a store that had 50,000 sq feet. You couldn't buy a can of paint at Home Depot or Lowes that have wider aisle making "social distancing" easier but you could buy paint at an ACE Hardware with more narrow aisle. You couldn't use a boat,regardless of size, with motor but you could use a boat without a motor, regardless of size and the ability to social distance. Out of state residents who owned vacation homes were allowed to travel to their properties but in state residents weren't allowed to travel to their vacation homes. Eventually those restrictions were lifted because of social pressure, not because the "science" changed.
I couldn't find ANYONE who could point me to any science that supported those decisions......and I was told by some people that I was questioning those decisions just because I hated the governor.

I'm in a high risk group, I've restricted my activities knowing the risks and my susceptibilities to being infected but I don't think everyone else should be FORCED to do what I have DECIDED to do.

All I know for sure is, they STILL have not isolated the virus. Which means that they cannot provide a sample of it to prove its existence. Which also means they can’t look at it under a microscope or create a traditional vaccine for it (therefore a traditional vaccine, such as the one J&J is supposedly developing would not be targeting Covid-19 virus, but coranaviruses in general), nor can they create a test for it (which they have not, in spite of what you may have been led to believe).

Any time someone makes a claim that something exists, the burden of proof is upon them. Without physical evidence, the existence of a thing cannot be verified. In law, there is no murder without a body. In virology, there is no pandemic without a virus. Show me the virus!

hello aldtrao . not sure what you are referring to . The covid virus has been isolated and grown in cell cultures ??? They haven’t found the source of the virus . .

Curious ???? Do you have a scientific mind or qualification that would allow you to ascertain the authenticity of the virus if you were given access to see it ???

Do you apply the same rationale to any other virus or pathogen you could potentially encounter . For example if you were travelling to a foreign country and required vaccination against yellow fever or hepatitis .. Would you discount the existence of such a virus without access to seeing it ???

truly sad if that is what it takes motto .

The Covid virus has never been isolated. The CDC has admitted this, about two months ago, as I recall. Many stories have been published on this curious lack of evidence. I don’t need to personally see a virus to believe that it exists, but SOMEBODY ought to see it. Your questions are so insulting and absurd.

The China virus is real so is the flu and the common cold. Millions have died from these virus’s . Unfortunately the Democrats have used this newest corona virus for political gain. Creating a panic that never should have been, just to try to make Trump look bad but that’s what the Democrats do best. It’s called sleazebag politics Less than a week after President Trump stepped down the Dems. change their beliefs and now want to open the restaurants and bars and gyms. Biden keeps saying he wants to open the schools safely. Saying isn’t doing. He is more concerned about his popularity with teachers and the school boards than the welfare of children. In his own words his no. 1 concern is the teachers. Someone should tell “ our” demented brain dead president that the children should be his no. 1 concern. Although he probably understands that he still insists on trying to destroy everything good about America for the sake of creating power for his corrupt party and their forced intrusion into our personal lives. A wise person knows that if you keep forcing your unpopular policies on a free society it will only create resistance and push back. The Democrats should find a copy of “ The History of America” and read it. Even though they find it offensive. Lessons are learned from history. To bad it doesn’t sink in for them....

my apologies if my question upset you . It was not meant as an insult . I was attempting to understand your rationale .

As for the cdc ..they claim they have isolated the virus .

Forgiven. Forgotten. Perhaps I’m too hasty at times to read a belittling tone. As for that cdc... it’s fresh news to me if they’re saying that now. This would be a very recent development. Do you have an article from them you could post? If not, it’s fine. I’ll get on their site.

I’m not, at the moment, finding the last article I read about this a couple of months back, where someone from CDC was saying it hadn’t been isolated, but I did run across a couple of curious things. Now, in what publication they are claiming that they had samples enough to distribute to labs around the country back in January of last year, (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/lab/grows-virus-cell-culture.html), but... in another publication, written in June 2020, they claim that no samples were available at the time they were developing the test for it (https://www.fda.gov/media/134922/download#page42) see page 43, second paragraph under Performance Characteristics.

Anyway, I’m going to keep looking for that cdc guy’s admission, and I’ll post whatever else I find.

The cdc Link I had was the same as the first link you posted . Within that link are links for researchers and vaccine developers in the USA to access Viral samples waving:

http://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/lab/grows-virus-cell-culture.html

Please ignore the sarcastic tone of this neck link .... the information is legitimate ... and as you can see plenty of other verifications that the covid virus has been isolated .

http://virologydownunder.com/sigh-yes-the-covid-virus-is-real/

Covid, I'm sure is real. What it had to take to avoid it, was just to stay away from others in order to contain it. People that got it, I believe were ones that couldn't bare to not be around others. They really couldn't stand to be alone, so they took chances. Stupid chances, in my opinion.
Now, I did a little research. I was curious, I found out that overweight people were more susceptible to it. And something else came out, that I didn't know. Flu shots take time to make a person immune to whatever strain happens to be out there during flu season. With overweight folks, as Long as 8 weeks. I thought that was rather interesting. I know people who are overweight, had gotten the shot, and they just assumed just the next day after, they were immune to it. Not so, because one did get it a week after, and was mad that he did.

Another point, which have nothing to do with covid. Or does it? A rural housing development is going up in my area. The local government decided that for the size of it, it should be on city services. Reason is, not using well water or septic tanks, for pollution reasons. One pollutant I can understand, is nitrates, fertilizer.

But the other is disturbing- Pharmaceuticals. Why, in ground that's been farmed for decades have that in the shallow water table? I suspect the residents have been flushing unused prescriptions. But that many??? Or, are they taking that many, and it's going thru them, then ending up in their septic systems? I'm sorta thinking it's that. There was a drug company in another town. That plant was more involved with the manufacturer of prosthetic joints, not drugs. And they closed down 20 years ago.

This, is an unknown source. Then again, it isn't. There isn't but one person I know of, that doesn't take a regular prescription daily. I'm the oddball, I don't. Are people that sick? Or are they so worried about having some high risk chronic affliction, that they just have to take whatever to give them peace of mind? I know just by going out in public, I see my share of overweight people. I friend of mine, who also happens to be a physician has told me that a great many of his patients could stand to loose weight. Of course, if you're overweight, other medical issues are going to be aggravated. If the local government wants to put them on city services, I don't care, it doesn't affect me.

Bottom line, to me, is that this covid business has been brought on by the general health issues of this country. I kept my distance. I avoided people in general for my own good health in this mess. And I plan to get the vaccine once it comes available to my age bracket.

Oh, and I heard today that right now, ten people are getting vaccinated for every one person that has tested positive.

I'm all in on that bit of good news.

Yeah, people are that sick. I work in the freezer isles of a grocery store. I see how fast that nasty, processed garbage moves out. A kid’s dinner is macaroni, mechanically separated chicken nuggets, and a brownie? Seriously? That seems like child abuse to me. People are living off of products that are so processed and full of toxins that they’re simply not food. I suppose that they have the attitude that they can shove whatever they want to in their faces and then just take pills to fix the problems that result. But people don’t get SIBO or Chrones from lack of exotic chemical cocktails, and their bodies aren’t failing to repair themselves for lack of these things either. Moreover, if they would eat organic fresh vegetables and fruits instead (food), their immune systems would be much stronger and maybe they wouldn’t be stampeding to get vaxed.

In any case, it’s no surprise to me if they would worry about the groundwater, but it might also be that they were concerned about the water table being sufficient to supply that many homes. Also, small governments may be encouraged to get as many people onto public water and sewer as possible because there’s money in it; and maybe even because they are encouraged by public health authorities to believe that putting fluorine and chlorine based chemicals into the drinking water of as many people as possible is good for public health. (Which is a sick lie, since these are highly toxic halogens that compete with iodine in your body’s receptor sites in multiple glandular tissues (this is a leading cause of breast cancer and thyroid problems). But the public health authorities are good buddies with big pharma, so what do you expect? )

It all makes me idly wonder if all of this isn’t just a giant I.Q. test designed by eugenicists like Bill Gates and his ilke to strengthen the gene pool.