Topic: save america
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Mon 12/17/07 10:04 AM
I think truckers should be required to use bio diesal;^]

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Mon 12/17/07 10:09 AM

I think truckers should be required to use bio diesal;^]


Well I only have a GUESS on this one. Maybe any truckers around can confirm this.

My GUESS is that our government has some sort of subcidies to make up for the added fuel costs and of course they make it up in freight charges as well. So thats the only reason they have not just shut'em down.

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Mon 12/17/07 10:11 AM
Either way, bio diesal use is just more responsible. It'll be a sad day when the oil is gone & we find that underground oil plays an important role to our eco system;^]

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Mon 12/17/07 10:20 AM

Either way, bio diesal use is just more responsible. It'll be a sad day when the oil is gone & we find that underground oil plays an important role to our eco system;^]


TOTALLY AGREE! Man can sure f*ck this world up out of nothing more than greed!

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Mon 12/17/07 10:45 AM
well if we're getting into environmentalism then let me say this: an individual car does not create very much polution, millions upon million upon millions of them DO, as such if american citezens would put forth a mass effort 2 carpool as much as possible with their neighboors, to fill each car with 3 or more people who would otherwise be driving their own cars, then many of the issues with the environment/global warming would b solved, not completeley fixed yet but it would do more than just having a bunch of meetings over protocal which do NOTHING

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Mon 12/17/07 01:53 PM
Amazing how a thread goes "silent" when someone says "STAND UP AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!!"

Just like in the REAL world..they run and hide! :tongue:

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Mon 12/17/07 01:59 PM
I looked around my apartment for American made things...the only thing I found was erm...KY Jelly =X

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Mon 12/17/07 02:01 PM
Edited by Sumthingdifferent on Mon 12/17/07 02:02 PM

I looked around my apartment for American made things...the only thing I found was erm...KY Jelly =X


ROFLMAO..yeh you get that with every TAX RETURN from good OL UNCLE SAM!!! laugh

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Mon 12/17/07 03:38 PM
During the 1970s and 1980s, the U.S. steel industry suffered a sudden collapse that threw thousands out of work. U.S. Steel and other American steel companies that still depended upon large numbers of older, inefficient plants failed to withstand the combination of a decline in demand and the rise of international competition in the 1970s.<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

This is about the time that protective tariffs began to be lifted, and the country began a long battle with recession!
I remember, as do many who have been around awhile! Unemployment was high, gas prices began to double and triple, and jobs began to go where labor was cheaper. It became cheaper for industries to build a product overseas, pay shipping cost, and still make a bigger profit!
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The sudden decline of American steel stunned the employees of mills across the Chicago area. Between 1979 and 1986, about 16,000 Chicago-area steelworkers lost their jobs. Wisconsin Steel closed abruptly in 1980 after attempts at a financial bailout failed. South Works endured a prolonged shutdown before closing its doors in 1992. Inland Steel cut thousands of workers. Republic Steel dismissed half its employees. In 1984, it merged with LTV Steel, which declared bankruptcy in 1986. The closures left many steelworkers without jobs or health care and decimated communities in northwest Indiana and the Calumet district.

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Steel was not alone, textile, electronics, and Auto went too! As well as thousands of support industries, like small part manufacturers, upholsterers, etc...!

Vote for John Edwards!!!drinker drinker

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Tue 12/18/07 03:16 PM
yah i already know the problem Whats the solution?

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Tue 12/18/07 03:30 PM
wally world?
i wouldent boycot wal mart at all. just every foreign made goods in the place. the people could wear a groove in the floor of the place going to the two products made in these united states.

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Tue 12/18/07 03:33 PM

wally world?
i wouldent boycot wal mart at all. just every foreign made goods in the place. the people could wear a groove in the floor of the place going to the two products made in these united states.


Me wanting to boycott walmart has nothing to do with that, it's for descecrating historical finds in Hawaii and under benefits to their employees. I only care where a product comes from when it involves things like child workers and hazardous working conditions;^]

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Tue 12/18/07 03:45 PM
im a lot more concerned about our childern having a job.

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Tue 12/18/07 03:52 PM
when american products stop costing an arm and a leg,I'll buy them...besides i love my hyundai:heart:

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Tue 12/18/07 03:53 PM
Edited by Turtlepoet78 on Tue 12/18/07 03:54 PM
They will, it might have to be in a differant field but as always, as jobs leave new jobs open. There's been a huge boom in computer programming. Again, it's not pretty but it's the cycle that's always been. Would have been more rellevant to argue "I want our auto workers (or whatever field) to have jobs".

They're building overtop of an ancient mass grave in Honululu is very disturbing. The have robbed man, and the Hawaii people of an event in history and more importantly, knowladge itself. Even if they tore down the store now & let the anthropologists do their job the scene is now contamminated & won't yield nearly as much data;^]

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Tue 12/18/07 03:59 PM

yah i already know the problem Whats the solution?


Actually there is a very simple solution! Remember the Boston Tea party????

People who got sick of the taxes finaally DID SOMETHING about it!

And that is the KEY! STOP ALL THE DAMMM LIP SERVICE AND PEOPLE DO SOMETHING!

Want to make the gas people stand up and make change, TRY NOT DRIVING FOR A DAY OR TWO A WEEK!, if EVERYONE did that then things would CHANGE!

But people are too selfish and self centered to do ANYTHING anymore, except LIP SERVICE!

As I put in an earlier post...anyone here ever hold a picket sign outside anyplace because of what you BELIEVE IN???

Anyone ever stand and actually do SOMETHING for ANYTHING besides your OWN SELF!!????

That's the PROBLEM...and there is your SOLUTION!

So let's see how many will do MORE THAN LIP SERVICE!!!

John Cougar Mellencamp... "You better STAND FOR SOMETHING..or you will FALL FOR ANYTHING!"

It's called PRIDE! HONOR! INTEGRITY! It's worth STANDING FOR!

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Tue 12/18/07 04:05 PM
i looked around and the only american made item in this house is my son and my toilet paper..bigsmile

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Tue 12/18/07 06:02 PM
thats a start devil.
i bought some ammo for my ramset the other day and the instructions were in several languages but not in the kings english.

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Tue 12/18/07 06:06 PM
<----made in Canadabigsmile drinker bigsmile

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Tue 12/18/07 06:08 PM
mabe we could all bury the corporations with requests for US products?
petitions?
cmon lets get er done.