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Dole better start pushing his meatless meat a little harder.
UK snow forecast: Coldest winter in 100 YEARS as 3-month sub-zero freeze hits Britain |
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lol sorry buddy 99% of the world's scientists are smarter than you
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lol sorry buddy 99% of the world's scientists are smarter than you Science isn't a popularity contest. And the 'science' involved in climate modelling isn't accurate. |
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Edited by
Let'sDoThis
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Fri 11/29/19 07:17 AM
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lol sorry buddy 99% of the world's scientists are smarter than you No need for disparaging put downs. That's a report from a UK news source. Scientists report, it will become the norm. |
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Here in the UK we don't have a climate we have weather. 'Climate' implies long stretches of predictable temperatures, rainfall etc that we simply don't have. We live on an Island slightly smaller than the State of New York, stuck out into the North Atlantic on a latitude roughly equal to New York itself. The only thing that keeps us slightly more inhabitable than Norway is the Gulf Stream. UK weather is a result of complex interactions between different wind systems, the Slip Stream, Arctic, Russian and European continental. We regularly ( every 15 to 20 years) experience a severe Winter of -20 to -30C. Wether this is going to be one of them remains to be seen.
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Would you agree, this reaction has periodically repeated itself since the beginning of time?
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Edited by
Seamus
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Fri 11/29/19 09:13 AM
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Certainly, the general planetary climate changes over thousands and even millions of years. The planet has experienced tropical phases and ice-ages for those millions of years before we were here and will no doubt continue to do so long after we're gone. I've studied both sides of the argument and the idea of man-made global warming, climate change or catastrophy is absurd, bordering on insane. Consider this, what is proposed is that we are directly responsible for changing the climate and this amounts to terra-forming (that old favourite) and technologically speaking we are at least 150 years away from being able to terra-form planets, including our own.
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lol sorry buddy 99% of the world's scientists are smarter than you You do realize, that Al Gore, Big Bird, and Elmo aren't scientists? Right? |
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Is it Tony Heller on you tube. Global warming statistics are all manipulated. We are moving into an electric universe cycle again. Ice age. Get underground. Research to topic with the electric universe folks on youtube.
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Edited by
Up2youandme
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Fri 12/20/19 07:36 PM
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Is it Tony Heller on you tube. Global warming statistics are all manipulated. We are moving into an electric universe cycle again. Ice age. Get underground. Research to topic with the electric universe folks on youtube. That might more sense to explain the 20 stories deep cave system on Turkey |
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Global warming doesn't mean everywhere is always going to get hotter. It means extreme weather events are going to be more extreme. Hotter hot days, colder cold days, wetter rainy days, and longer droughts.
Some places will not notice huge changes, and others will. Rivers and low lands will be more prone to flood. Coasts will see more violent storms. Soil will blow away, and fires will be more frequent and hotter. Enjoy the cold while you can, you may soon be frozen in, flooded out, or dried up and burnt out. Yes an ice age could occur too, with enough volcanic activity blocking the sun. |
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not many people know this, but many many good people are saying....
and... I saw the video on youtube recently the flat-earthers (real patriots) saying no problem....they have a plan to erect yuge fans and blow all the pollution right over the edge...yeah ! (world saved).... ....jobs jobs jobs...economy great, record high stocks, back to work again (building big fans)...everybody happy again... |
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Edited by
Argo
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Fri 12/20/19 10:27 PM
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At least five major ice ages have occurred throughout Earth's history: the earliest was over 2 billion years ago, and the most recent one began approximately 3 million years ago and continues today (yes, we live in an ice age!). Currently, we are in a warm interglacial that began about 11,000 years ago. LOWERN is an acronym for 6 factors that affect climate. Latitude. Depending on how close or how far it is to the equator. Ocean currents. Certain ocean currents have different temperatures. ... Wind and air masses. Heated ground causes air to rise which results in lower air pressure. Elevation. Relief. Nearness to water. Greenhouse gases cause the greenhouse effect. The primary greenhouse gases in Earth's atmosphere are water vapor, carbon dioxide, methane, nitrous oxide and ozone. Methane, not necessarily derived from gas hydrates, is emitted directly to the atmosphere at ebullition sites in shallow lakes within permafrost and probably in open water on shallow Arctic shelves. 7 Main Stages of a Star A Giant Gas Cloud. A Protostar Is a Baby Star. The T-Tauri Phase. Main Sequence Stars. Our Star, the Sun (Sol) is currently in Main Sequence. Expansion into Red Giant. Fusion of Heavier Elements. Supernovae and Planetary Nebulae. Basically, the Sun gets hotter everyday. Climate change is natural. Climate change is a planetary process. Human activity/presence does 'contribute' to global warming but is not causing it. Humans cannot stop/prevent global warming. Our impact on the whole is fractional. As the interglacial period continues more of the ice melts from the surface of the Earth. Ice/snow (white stuff) reflects solar radiation. Land/water (dark stuff) absorbs solar radiation. Greenhouse gasses trap the radiation causing a warming (blanket) of the Earth's surface reducing its reflectivity by melting even more ice/snow. Water vapor and carbon dioxide are the two most abundant greenhouse gasses and are a direct result of the warming process. The water cycle Step 1: Evaporation. Step 2: Condensation. Step 3: Sublimation. Step 4: Precipitation. Step 5: Transpiration. Step 6: Runoff. Step 7: Infiltration. CO2 (Carbon Dioxide) is what oxygen breathing life on this planet exhales. The average human exhales about 2.3 pounds of carbon dioxide on an average day. There are about 7.6 billion people alive right now, breathing. There is a net gain of 1 new person every 18 seconds. However, humans are not the only life forms on this planet breathing. Humans share the planet with as many as 8.7 million different forms of life. Plants absorb carbon dioxide during photosynthesis. There are about 391,000 species of vascular plants currently known to science. How many 391,000's go into 8,700,000? It's obvious plants can't be the only CO2 sink. The ocean acts both as a source and a sink, releasing carbon dioxide and absorbing it through natural processes. Volcanic eruptions act as a natural source of CO2. The point I am making is global warming is a natural Earth process and a cycle. While human activity contributes to the end result it certainly is not the cause and therefore can't be cured by human restrictions. |
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I should point out we are currently still in the last ice age. Its also important to realize in the last 4.5 billion years or so, the Earth has gone thru multiple ice ages and warming periods. There is evidence in core samples, ice samples and sedimentary buildup such as lime and sandstone. One should also realize the Sun is roughly 4.8 billion years old and is rising into its main sequence phase. Yes, the Sun is getting hotter. The Earth is also slowing in its rotational period causing longer days. We can't tell because we live and die over very significant short time periods by comparison. Our entire modern science is at best, a couple thousand years in total. In other words, we are very new on the scene. Granted, our 7.7 billion population and our incessant need to pave the planet are not helping matters but I assure y'all, we are not the cause. |
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One of the problems with human reasoning is to imagine that we are significant to the natural process of life.
Hahaha, delusions of grandeur. Just for a second, a considerations, is it possible that humans, existing for a mere 2 million years might have no idea what is really going on in a Universe that has existed for 14 billion years or so? How could any person understand what is really going on? Bur wait, put yer ego aside for a second. The question to ask is why? Why, in the world would we, who can't understand our own brains or the planet we infest, why would WE be so freaking special we have all the answers? Sorry, that just makes ABSOLUTELY no reasonable sense? So lets just say, we are infants learning the world in which we inhabit. Lets figure that everything we know, all we have 'found out' about the Universe is but an infants view on the actual reality out there? What happens then? What if what you think you know is not what is actually happening but only how we understand it according to what we have learned so far? Our reasoning approximates about 2,000 years, Pretty significant to a species that lives about 100 years. The Universe approximates to 13.8 billion years. Do you even realize how many 2,000 year periods are in 13.8 billion years? The significance is the determining factor not a strange detail. We Know NOTHING! Hell, ya can't even control your own population, understand your own planet or contemplate the vast dynamics of the Universe in which you exits. 2 million years your species has been around. Eventually, some far superior life form will consider Humans as a short lived fluke in the evolutionary past of this planet. LOL, talk about delusions of grandeur! While our type of star is pretty common it is not the only type of star out there. The most common star is nothing like our Sun. Some stars only exist for millions of years, others billions of years. Some stars are so radiant, no life can exist anywhere near them. Some stars expire long before life on any planets can occur. Plus, there are a million other variables that prevent life, let along advanced life from ever happening in that star system. The G2 type star, being fairly common, also is not a guarantee that life or advanced life will form in its system. There are systems with multiple stars that prevents the stability needed for life to advance. There are stars with too much or not enough radiation to allow advanced life to mature. Our own Sun and the system in which we inhabit has just the right combination of conditions that allowed life to mature over 4.5 billion years to create us. Sure, there might be other G2 systems that create advanced life. There is nothing to suggest those systems are exactly like ours and results in exactly the same way as our planet did when we evolved. There could be greatly advanced life forms or greatly inferior life forms but all those life forms are unique to their parent star system. For a random G2 star to produce a civilization we could even call our brothers is astronomical and likely 1 in 1 billion or more. Lets say everyone suddenly became aware of the environment, all 7.7 billion of us.
Lets say each of us dedicated themselves to stop environmental damage in everything we do. You no longer flush your toilet because it contributes to the erosion of the natural environment. You stop using electricity. You stop going to work, driving your car, flying, using manufactured items. You stop eating, exercising and moving around. What you can't grasp is not the impact you are having on the environment by just living, you fail to realize you are not the only one. 7.7 billion others are on this plane right now, making more. All the things you 'need' in your life are there because something or someone is affecting the environment. The plastic you use requires raw material being harvested, chemical processes to make it plastic and work forces to mold, assemble and distribute it. All the people doing that, also depend on the same things you do. You recycle your plastic bottles, oh wow, that makes a big difference in the actual reality of the impact. Someone gathered the recyclables, hauled them to a recycling center, sorted them, moved them to the recycling processing places and ran the furnaces and all the resultant processes needed to bring it back to you. People, more people. All creating more waste than your little bin of recycled plastic saves. But, you feel better because you did your part? The environment is interconnect with everything you do as long as you live. Times 7.7 billion. Plus, there is the natural planet processes that have been occurring since the Earth formed. Want to make a significan't gain in environmental recovery? Remove about 4 billion people from the cycle. The Earth will not end. It will recover. Faster without us but it will no matter what. People think we are destroying the Earth but all we are destroying is our world. There is a difference. Ever notices how weather sites label storms and conditions with terrible names? Stormageddon, Worst heat wave in the last decade, season of storms. Its all designed to get the public frenzied about things that are naturally occurring. Oh God, we're all gunna die! Sells papers, air time and website hits. Just this week I read how the northeast was in for record breaking triple digits heat for days. I talked to my sis, who lives there and yeah, its summer hot but not so bad. We are TOLD something but reality unfolds as something else but hey, it reaches 100 degrees on one day so people think oh, its all true. The term for that is SHEEPLE. I'll bet they sold a lot of air conditioner units in the northeast last week. I'll bet the electric company inflated their cost per kilowatt during that time and people think nothing of it. Oh, and right now, there is a 30% chance a storm could turn into a tropical depression off the coast of Florida and people get all worked up about the "Crazy" weather nowadays. LOL, have fun with all that media inspired stress. |
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But the sky is always falling !
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Dole better start pushing his meatless meat a little harder. UK snow forecast: Coldest winter in 100 YEARS as 3-month sub-zero freeze hits Britain they ran that story. vebatum. last year and the year before and the year before that. Pft! they don't even change the wording. Tabloid news is pretty limp. In reality weather forecasting can only give probabilities beyond about 5 -10 days. Unless the trend is clear cut. Any even 1/2 trained meteorologist wouldn't make such a bold claim. It's just sensationalist rubbish. |
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