hey Kalamazooguy..you left out the best one...what about being under government control since you guys couldn't stop torturing and murdering people on your own

excuse me? i do not associate myself with the catholic church so when you say you guys are you reffering to this?

The catholic church has 1 man above everyone else. This is not the bible. The church has men that allow people to confess thier sins to, this should be done with you and God only since only God can forgive your sins.

I believe in the bible.

You guys? Explain.

10 were placed onto stone tablets, the rest were dictated to Moses. Moses was given all 613 commandments, but the first 10 have a special place of prominence. That's never changed, it's always been that what.



That's not what happened at all. Moses claimed to be responsible for the miracles. He said "You don't believe me." Moses' sin was his arrogance, not giving water to the thirsty. Infact, God had commanded Moses to give them water.



I was just pointing out that God's laws are GOOD. Not that we all follow them or anything like that. We have the choice and when we choose to follow God's laws, we are doing good.



I'm not sure what your interpretation of that scripture is, so I can't say if you are taking it out of context or not.

intersting face people dont realize. Moses was saved without ever hearing the word of christ... thought it share that =)

oh oh Kalamazooguy have went "New Age" ..dumping the religion but keeping the God

Sorry religion is not defined on a grand scale, i wouldnt expect you to know about such.

you keep forgetting Jesus is not God

so?

oh oh ..now Kalamazooguy is saying that he is spiritual and follow his own religious rules thus placing himself into the role of God

k

so you need to remember you should be worshipping God as the head man not Jesus

What makes the God of the Bible better? He is holy, moral, and ethical. Further, He is a historical fact. In addition, He asks you to prove Him. Here is his answer to you:

Isa 46:9 Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me,
Isa 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:

God tells us what He will do, and then He does it. The scriptures are filled with prophesies that have come to pass, are coming to pass, and will come to pass.

None of this is true for the other gods.



I don't do any of this stuff except the the church part which you are wrong on. It is in the Bible. They called it the synogogue in those days, and the scriptures state:

Heb 10:24 And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works: Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.

Act 15:21 For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.



I am not telling you how to use words. God is telling you not to misuse His name.

To me, it is you who are presumptuous in that you think you know better than God Himself. The word God uses for vain is this:

H7723 shâv' from the same as H7722 in the sense of desolating; evil (as destructive), literally (ruin) or morally (especially guile); figuratively idolatry (as false, subjectively), uselessness (as deceptive, objectively; also adverbially in vain): - false (-ly), lie, lying, vain, vanity.



Of course God can be proved. In the context of realizing that you can't prove anything to someone who wants to reject it, here is some evidence. If you really wanted proof, just use normal deductive reasoning.

1. The universe exists. Nothing comes from nothing so it must have had a creator
2. The Universe is experiencing entropy. Everything is winding down. Eventually all will flat-line. Something had to wind it up in the beginning. That would be God.
3. There are laws in the universe. We cannot break them. If we live by them, we can fly to the moon and back. If we try to break them, we crash and burn.

There are laws regarding every aspect of life. There are laws of physics, there are laws of emotions, and psychology. There are laws that work for society, and the study of those laws is called sociology. There are laws for true religion. Therefore there must be a law giver

4. The universe is sustained. The electrons fly around the neutron at millions of miles per hour. There is no physical force strong enough to cause the electrons to not fly off into space. The force that holds the universe together is God's word.

5. There is fulfilled prophecy. Ironically, while you doubt God, it was prophesied that you and others would doubt Him. God predicted the exact year Jesus would come on the scene. He spoke of nations and empires that would come and go. He spoke of the empire that is next to appear on the scene. Only God can do that.

6. There is answered prayer. God answers the prayer of those who obey Him, not those who think they know better than Him.



This is a ridiculous comment. God gave His commandments in a society that was to keep His law. Today parents don't treat their children properly, and children don't treat their parents properly. Under God's law, if parents tried to murder their children, then they would be tried, and executed. They had to treat their children well.



So, if I am hearing you correctly, you agree with God on this one, but you don't think it was necessary for Him to write it down.

But, if we don't need a book to tell us this, then why are we still doing it? What about in third world countries like Somalia? They need to have God's law instituted and applied there. Some day they will, but until then, you should look at the fact that we have murders, 5 a day in Los Angeles that are reported, and I think you should rethink this. It seems like we need to be told.

I suggest that many of the murders don't think God's word is important or needed--just like you, and that is why this particular crime continues unabated.



No we are not the only ones. other animals are faithful to their mates.

Yes, you might want to scr-w every woman you see, and you might not want to marry her and support her. That is our human male nature in spades. But, God says that this is a destructive way to live, and there is yet a higher reason for what He says in marriage.

Consider: Why marriage? Why fidelity? Why protect and provide for your mate? It is because we are here to learn lessons. Christ is going to marry His church. He requires fidelity. It is one of the highest attributes of moral and ethical behavior to be loyal to a person through thick and thin. God is loyal to us, and He protects and provides for those who accept His proposal of marriage. We must learn to be faithful to Him, and we do this by learning to be faithful to the one we promised.

I hope no one ever marries you if you continue to think like you do. You cannot be trusted to be faithful, and your reason? Well I am an animal, and other animals are not faithful. Be sure and tell that to every lady you date. Thanks



I do dare. How dare you to think that you have a right to steal what belongs to others? You think you can make the rules, and that the rules can change when the circumstance change. I would suggest to all your family, all your friends, and all your associates--never trust you. If you think like this, you cannot be trusted.

Besides this, you think that God only works in America? If those starving people who can't get water to drink actually turned to the true God and worshiped Him the way He says, then, He would provide the water.

Psa 37:25 I have been young, and now am old; yet have I not seen the righteous forsaken, nor his seed begging bread.



You are showing ignorance here in in the worst way. A false witness is one who lies in court to convict an innocent person for free the guilty. --- you know just like we see in America's justice system today--and which we complain about.



All I can think of is that you are too emotional to see straight. You accuse me of taking away rights because I say we should not steal, lie, commit adultery, and covet what belongs to others? God's law insures our rights.

Your emotion blinds you to the truth. The truth is that the seat was always hers to take in God's law. The people who denied that seat to her were coveting what was not theirs. They believed a lie, and they stole her rightful place in society from her. In order to do this, they made themselves their own god -- you know, kinda like you do.

You obviously want to twist things to make them seem like God and His way is wrong. But, it is you who are wrong. Your logic is biased, it is self serving, and shows that you don't care about truth, you just want to prove your point.

Which I guess is that God's way is wrong, and that your way is better, you are smarter, and more loving.

I don't buy it! You have a long way to go to even understand God.



You do err not knowing the Scriptures. God cut mankind off from Him at the garden of Eden. Now He is letting man go his own way. He is letting us devise our own religions, our own governments, and economy. He is not involved in the world at large. It is the devil's world 2 Cor 4:4, and you look at the devil's world, and think it is God's.

God has given man a certain number of years and then He will return and will establish His government on earth. He will establish His religion. He will eliminate war, disease, famine, and ignorance that masquerades today as intellect.
The nature of the animals will be changed so that they do not fight and tear at one another. It will be a beautiful peaceful world with cooperation among all peoples and not competition.

Art

word of wisdom Art, thanks for sharing such words.

Thanks for the question Funches,

God's church never tortured or murdered anyone. God's church was tortured and murdered by the same organization that killed others in the name of Christ. Jesus foretold this in the book of Revelation. There He spoke of a white horse. He said:

Rev 6:2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

This horse and its rider are not Christ. They are set among four horsemen who are all banes on the world. Further, this rider has a man made weapon of war, not the sword of God's word in His mouth. This is a false Christianity that would appear white, or pure, and it would conquer the earth using man made weapons of war.

In the Olivet prophecy, Jesus reiterated the six seals in plain language. The white horse of false Christianity he described this way:

Mat 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. Mat 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

Thus, people would come in His name. They would say that Jesus was the Christ and they would deceive ---not the few--but the many.

He said that this false religion would actually kill people thinking they were doing it for him.

Joh 16:2 They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.

This is the religion that you speak of, not the true religion of God spoken of in the Scriptures. An entire chapter of the Bible is dedicated to this church. Can you guess who it is?

Rev 17:1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters: Rev 17:2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.
Rev 17:3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. Rev 17:4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: Rev 17:5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. Rev 17:6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration. Rev 17:7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns. Rev 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is. Rev 17:9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. Rev 17:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
Rev 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.
Rev 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. Rev 17:13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
Rev 17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful. Rev 17:15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues. Rev 17:16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire. Rev 17:17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled. Rev 17:18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

And she will reign again in the future,

Art

Front page Fox new article.

Where did they get this idea? Isn't it from some of the Christian teaching, just sign the tract saying you accept Jesus and you go to heaven?

Now don't go out and buy this you guys. (ha ha0

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see you guys have a knack of disclaiming violence ..in that case then explain was it violence when God wiped out "JOB's" entire family ...

God didn't "wipe out" Job's family.

Sure he did. Read the Story!

God told Satan to have his way with Job, just don't kill him.

So Satan kills his entire family.

So now your saying God didn't do it?

That's like saying that the Godfather of a mob isn't responsible for what his hit men do.

Of course he wouldn't be, unless he called out the hit. Do you believe in guilty by association?

Well if you read the story it says that Satan went to God and God gave Satan the go ahead!

If that's not calling out the hit I don't know what is.