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Topic: Flat Earth
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Tue 04/09/19 03:43 PM
My apologies, I had not realised that flat earthers believed the earth to be infinitely large.

That being the case, how do you explain the ability of people to go round the 'flat' earth on the sea in sailing boats and in the air in hot air balloons? How do you explain that people who do that return to their original starting point? A bit difficult if this 'flat' earth is of infinite size, I think!

If the planet was infinitely large then explorers would be going further and further afield, continually finding new seas and new continents. That would be irresistable for us humans, we love to explore..... but where is the documented evidence of the places further away from those we have already known about for a couple of hundred years? Sadly, there is none.

A reasonable person will look at all the evidence and rapidly come to the conclusion that the evidence for the planet being a globe, and all the other things you deny, is overwhelming. One has to look at some very dubious sites to find anything else.

On this thread alone, there is only one poster who believes that we are flat.

'nuff said!

Earthica 's photo
Tue 04/09/19 03:52 PM
Edited by Earthica on Tue 04/09/19 03:57 PM


There are other explanations for things
just take 10 minutes of your precious time here
and humor me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uxdntylhBo


Just for you, I looked at this. I also saw this and suggest you take a look:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkRnJutL5ko

Where is the picture of the 'edge' of the planet? There isn't one because there isn't an 'edge' to a globe!

Who prevents people from visiting this 'edge' and taking photos? Don't say the military, because they've only been around very recently in the history of this planet. Who was there before we had military? How come these people never ever make a mistake and accidentally tell someone that their job is to prevent curious people from having a look at the 'egde'? How many people are involved in this conspiracy to confuse the rest of us? Any why is it so important to them that we are all so confused and get it wrong? What is the REASON for anyone wanting to do this?

No ansers yet, I'm still waiting. Hope you enjoyed that YouTube video clip. laugh laugh


The video you sent is based on false positives... just like you want me to show you the edge and Im not claiming any such thing... it's easy to debunk your own false positives... try real science... observable, testable and repeatable... Thisis merely spinning off of a flat earth hitpiece... nothing more... try doing some real investigation, instead of googling "debunk flat earth".. this kind of nonsense s all you're going to come up with... what are you afraid of?

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Wed 04/10/19 12:35 AM
I'm not 'afraid' of anythinng or anyone! Just asking some questions, to which I have never had answers, like these:

If the earth is not round, it is (presumably?) flat. So where are the 'edges'? How far from me in the UK do I have to go in each direction to find an 'edge'? Simple question, surely?

What exists at the 'edge'? Simple question but no answer.

How would you explain ships and balloons that been 'round the world' if it is not round?

And the other questions I have asked. The answer to all of them is simple if the earth is round, as I believe. You make the challenge that it is not, so please answer my questions to prove your point.

So far your posts have all been vague and never answered any of the questions put by any of the other posters.

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Wed 04/10/19 04:54 AM
circumnavigate: to travel around and return to departure point without back tracking.

If the Earth is infinite, why do psychopaths war over countries, when they can just find a new empty one, somewhere over the horizon ?

A shape with no edge is a ball.
An infinite sized ball, or planet is plain stupid.

Maybe is your understanding and/or visual faculties regressing, and everything seems to get bigger around you ?

Tom4Uhere's photo
Wed 04/10/19 11:14 AM
Obviously you have never used a telescope.
I can 'see' the ISS pass over me with a good set of binoculars.
How do satellite dishes work?
Satellites are also used for internet and phone.
Even cable companies use satellites for their channels.
Go outside, move the dish out of place and see if you have tv channels.
Take a long drive, pay attention to the direction the dishes are pointing at different locations around the country.
The satellites are not just hanging on a string in the sky, they are orbiting the planet.
The 'science' that makes this all possible is based on a global Earth.

And NO, I do not think space is infinite, just beyond our ability to detect.
It all has to do with relativity.
I also don't believe we are the center of the Universe, it just appears that way because of our view. We detect by measuring the light. All points register light from 13.7 billion years out so our detection is a sphere.
We are in the center of the sphere because that is our detection point, if we move to the side a few million light years, we might see something different.
The Earth might appear to be flat but again its all relative to the view.
We are on a surface looking across. Our detection point is fixed to us.
We are tiny, looking at a huge surrounding, sure it appears to be flat.

Things are not always what they seem.
You can't see air and you can't see the lack of air but the difference is life or death.


Rooster35's photo
Wed 04/10/19 03:22 PM
"Flat Earth" LMFAO!
People will believe ANYTHING these days whoa
( been wanting to use that emoji for a while now and what a perfect opportunity, lol )

Earthica 's photo
Wed 04/10/19 08:54 PM
Edited by Earthica on Wed 04/10/19 08:59 PM

I'm not 'afraid' of anythinng or anyone! Just asking some questions, to which I have never had answers, like these:

If the earth is not round, it is (presumably?) flat. So where are the 'edges'? How far from me in the UK do I have to go in each direction to find an 'edge'? Simple question, surely?

What exists at the 'edge'? Simple question but no answer.

How would you explain ships and balloons that been 'round the world' if it is not round?

And the other questions I have asked. The answer to all of them is simple if the earth is round, as I believe. You make the challenge that it is not, so please answer my questions to prove your point.

So far your posts have all been vague and never answered any of the questions put by any of the other posters.



Evidently you want a one sentence fits all answer... have some patience and actually read what i have posted.. then follow up with your own investigation..
I dont think you really WANT to know the truth... or you would do just that

you can circumnavigate your own neighborhood ... walk in a circle and come back to your house
There is no north south east or west on a ball?
That is just plain ol common sense.

Have you ever heard of the Antarctic treaty?
... this is why WE are unable to explore the full dimensions of our reality
I queued this to relevant info for you... if you have 20 minutes ... lol

https://youtu.be/J7nPw_qC5nU?t=1407



Tom4Uhere's photo
Wed 04/10/19 09:15 PM
Evidently you want a one sentence fits all answer

Got one,
Planet Earth is a sphere.

Poetrywriter's photo
Wed 04/10/19 09:22 PM

Evidently you want a one sentence fits all answer

Got one,
Planet Earth is a sphere.


:thumbsup:

Tom4Uhere's photo
Wed 04/10/19 09:23 PM
have some patience and actually read what i have posted.

I read quite a bit.
I read Tolkien's Lord of the Rings but I don't believe it as reality.

There is no north south east or west on a ball?

I agree.
North, South, East and West is a direction related to a position, not a globe.

Have you ever heard of the Antarctic treaty?

Hahaha, another 'factual' youtube video.
Well, I was in the service and was approached to do a tour in Antarctica and I declined but I know others that did not and I assure you there is no secret barrier at the South Pole.
But, hey, its really cold there.

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Thu 04/11/19 04:04 PM
Great news! The Israelis have built a film set to try to convince the world that they can also send a ship to the moon, only this is the first time it is not financed by a government, but by a handful of rich businessmen. I'm sure with modern CGI, it will be very impressive indeed and the public will all believe that they have really done it.

Can't wait to see the film when it is made available............laugh laugh

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Thu 04/11/19 04:07 PM
If you walk in a SMALL circle you will indeed return to your point or origin. If you walk, or sail, or fly in a balloon in a STRAIGHT LINE you will in fact be moving in a circle, due to the SHAPE of the earth and eventually you will return to your starting point as has been proved many times by sailors and hot air balloonists.

Still no answer to the question, what is to stop you going to the 'edge'? Never a simple answer to a simple question, just the usual evasion of the question. If there is a simple answer, please tell the rest of us as we are dying to know it!laugh laugh laugh

Rooster35's photo
Thu 04/11/19 04:39 PM
I can't believe there are 5 pages in this thread arguing Flat Earth! laugh

I think the Earth is triangular.

Prove me wrong laugh

hardBNhard's photo
Thu 04/11/19 05:11 PM
NO
Its shaped like a football and Tom Brady is our overlord scared
Prove me wrong rofl

notbeold's photo
Fri 04/12/19 06:49 AM
It's a disc where, as you get further from the centre, your rulers shrink, but still look the same because you have shrunk too.
You can never reach the horizon.

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Fri 04/12/19 08:51 AM
Sad news, the latest landing on the moon was a little more rough than intended due to engine failure.

Now why would they do that on a film set? Or, just possibly, this landing is real?

Why five pages on this topic? Because someone is winding us all up and laughing at us as we take this nonsense seriously and write to defend common sense and well understood scientific facts that are agreed by all genuine scientists.

Still no answers at all to the 'difficult' questions I have asked - all answered with consummate ease by real scientists as well as those of us who have a basic understanding of how things work.

Well, it was fun, wasn't it!

Tom4Uhere's photo
Fri 04/12/19 11:13 AM
I've met flat-earthers in person and they really truly believe themselves.
I've also met people that wear tin foil hats and cover their windows with it.
Actually been to their houses, they believe themselves too.
People are nutz.

Well, it was fun, wasn't it!

Yeah

hardBNhard's photo
Fri 04/12/19 11:58 AM

I've met flat-earthers in person and they really truly believe themselves.
I've also met people that wear tin foil hats and cover their windows with it.
Actually been to their houses, they believe themselves too.
People are nutz.

Well, it was fun, wasn't it!

Yeah

:thumbsup: laugh

notbeold's photo
Mon 04/15/19 06:42 AM
The OP hasn't had anything to say at all.

I think the Earth is flat, but the sky is curved and forces the dirt into shape.

notbeold's photo
Mon 04/15/19 06:54 AM
Yes that's the answer:
clear skies make it look curved and more detailed, because in a fog or dust storm or low cloud, everything looks flat and two dimensional, but when the fog lifts everything is all over the place again, with curves everywhere.
So -
To see everything properly you must be in a fog.

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