triple post, oops

how are they 'unchecked' if they were being removed?

how are they public enemy number one? Who decided it and when and why was it decided?

the flaw is the implication that deportation previoiusly skipped gang members and only deported others. That is the only flaw.

want to remove them before a crime (membership with a group is not a crime, by the way)? The only grounds is being illegal, and they wERE BEING REMOVED already.

its alot of smoke screen and ado about next to nothing.

triple post, oops

Heres another site Ms.H and the rest of you Obama/Clinton worshippers..Not a Republican Pundit..argue with this one...LOL


**** Black Ops Operator Comes Forward And Tells All..Cody Snodgres...On YOUTUBE...***



as a matter of fact everyone should hear this one..Let's see you debate your way out of this one....



Look there Charles I even gave you something as well..that is if you ALL really want to know the TRUTH..



WWG1 WGA

Leftist has One goal , to oppose Trump and his administration .

More of that far right, Alex Jones type conspiracy theory with nothing credible to back it up. Just what this guy says and nothing else. Not believable. Except too the gullible.

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=92438

Do you actually get out?

Do you know what is going on out there on the street with MS-13?..Bloods, Crips, Black gangster disciples? Or is it just data you read?

I do get out and I know what is going on out there... they are here.. in the greater N.Y. area... and in many many other parts of the U.S. So I see their handy work most every night on the local news. And it is going down because they at being rounded up in droves here. 10-20 at a time by FEDERAL agents.. mostly ICE & ATF. and by looking at some of the other jackets.. FBI. That was not happening here during the last administration.. when MS-13 was swelling their ranks.. UNCHECKED BY Obama.

And they are real.. and Illegal.. and deadly

Trump has been all over MS-13.. Cleaning up the mess left by Obama.

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Frustrated MS-13 gang leaders feeling the pressure from the Trump administration’s crackdown are looking to send “younger, more violent offenders” to the United States to take over the role of being enforcers, officials say.
The revelations were made Thursday during a House Committee on Homeland Security meeting on fighting international criminal organizations, where officials discussed the arrests and imprisonment of MS-13 members and leadership over the last year.
“They’re very much interested in sending younger, more violent offenders up through their channels into this country in order to be enforcers for the gang,” said Stephen Richardson, assistant director of the FBI’s criminal investigative division, according to VOA News.
Peter King, R-N.Y., the committee’s chairman, said his staff recently visited El Salvador and was told by law enforcement there that the gang — which mostly operates out of prisons in the Central American country — is “frustrated that MS-13 members in [the U.S.] are not violent enough.”

Repeating it doesnt make it true. I gave data with supporting link of what was done with this gang under Obama. It is one gang out of many deadly gangs that we have always had and always will have and each administration has been dealing with it as much as is their federal authority, just as states deal with their specific violence and gangs in the manner their state authority allows.

Well, there is a new sheriff in own.. and that who we are talking about. and he IS taking aim at what Obama refused to.

There is no reason for American citizens to tolerate MS-13, Bloods, crips or Black Gangster disciples. And he is doing exactly what he said he would do while campaigning.

And your open arms alien philosophy produces... this:
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If any one thing can be blamed for causing MS-13 to flourish outside American borders, the blame can be placed squarely on the United States’ foreign and immigration policy. Salvadorans deported to their country of origin spread Los Angeles street gang motifs and culture to Central America —

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You see, if you don't allow them access in the first place,when they are deported back to their country( when caught after a serious crime) then they cant tell the others... "to go to America...its easy to get into AND you can get away with.. a lot... including murder".. plus tell them exactly where to go and how t the system when they get here.

the left doesn't see very far.. at all...and the far left.. is blind.

It is a BLATANT lie to keep repeating that obama 'refused' to do something about violence or MS 13. There is no debating with a lie, so carry on repeating it to Trump loyalists and extremists and I will continue to use myb brain.

http://mingle2.com/topic/edit/562110?postid=12651967 article from 2009

The law enforcement officers from Central America and the U.S. were mid-way through a tour of the Men’s Central Jail in Los Angeles when they spotted a shirtless prisoner exercising in the rooftop recreation area. The tattoos covering the man’s back, neck, and shaved head had gotten their attention—one tattoo in particular. When asked about it, the prisoner moved closer to the steel mesh barrier that separated him from the group and said the design was Mayan—“just another way to say ‘13.’ ”

Thirteen, as in MS-13, or Mara Salvatrucha. It’s one of the largest and most violent street gangs in the U.S. and Central America. It was MS-13 and another transnational gang, 18th Street, that brought this group of 27 officers together as part of a program created by our MS-13 National Gang Task Force (NGTF).

The Central American Law Enforcement Exchange, known as CALEE, is a joint FBI and State Department initiative which brings U.S. and Central American agencies together to share information and intelligence in the fight against the growing gang problem.


but no, Trump and ONLY Trump has ever done or tried to do anything about it ...

Once again you're not commenting on what I said.

"I wonder how tourism is doing in California's largest cities?"

I said nothing about the state. My comment was about California's cities. Like I asked before, does your devise insert words that I never did, in my comment?

actually, I missed words, did not devise anything. But its easy enough to research the cities.

The five largest are : Los Angeles, San Diego, Santa Clara, San Francisco, Fresno,

of that list, it seems like ONE, lost angeles makes the top ten most visited cities in the US.


https://www.thisisinsider.com/most-visited-us-cities-2017-12

I have an old friend in California and he's lived there for Years! I know s lot about California and what going on.

Link Don't work.

The 10 most-visited cities in the US this year

http://www.thisisinsider.com/most-visited-us-cities-2017-12

A blatant lie?.. why, because you don't agree with it?.. that now makes it a lie?

Turn on the news M.S in any metro city and you tell me who is rounding up who. And since you did not live in the greater metro N.Y. C. area under Obama you did not see the carnage MS-13 created.. the murders they committed. The families they destroyed. Did you.

ICE, ATF & FBI were NOT out there on a mission to destroy these gangs under Obama..... teams of FDERAL AGENTS with one mission.. to destroy MS-13 and the others..... now they ARE.

And there is no denying that... just turn the local news on here in N.Y.C., channel 2, 4 7 or 11..you tell me who the feds are hauling off...

If you cant see it.. it ain't happening.. right? If it is not a number on a handpicked spreadsheet.. It is not true.. right?

The ranks swelled under Obama... sorry.. that is also a.. fact. I know you like the guy, but.. fact is fact.

This is the first time in many many many years that these thugs are afraid.. they are looking over their shoulders.. they are not sleeping well.. because they know who's coming.......finally a president with the balls to back up his promise.

It is a blantant lie not based on what I believe, {because I have no more of a crystal ball than anyone else regarding all the government dealings and conversations and silly things like who 'refused' what,}

but based on what I PROVED with some actual facts about what was being done before #45 in regards to gangs including MS13. So I guess there is no proof Obama actually REFUSED to do anything, huh?

I am not the one saying what things have not happened. I am the one clarifying that things HAVE Happened, actually.

The U.S. carried out record deportations during the Obama administration and, on MS-13 specifically, took the unprecedented action of labeling the street gang a transnational criminal organization and announcing a freeze on its U.S. assets.

Trump’s own Justice Department has indirectly credited the Obama administration, in its early years, with putting heavy pressure on the gang. It said, “Through the combined efforts of federal, state and local law enforcement, great progress was made diminishing or severely (disrupting) the gang within certain targeted areas of the U.S. by 2009 and 2010.” That was not enough to crush MS-13 and Trump is taking extra steps toward that goal. But he is not the first to go after the gang.

https://www.voanews.com/a/ap-fact-check-trump-overlooks-ms-thirteen-gangs-american-roots/4244642.html


doesnt sound like 'refusing' to act, to me.

Donald Trump exaggerates on number of MS-13 gang members deported

In part,

"There are an estimated 10,000 MS-13 gang members in the United States. Not all are immigrants. Some are U.S. citizens who can’t be deported".

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/may/15/donald-trump/donald-trump-exaggerates-number-ms-13-gang-members/

It's too bad that Trump tells so many obvious half-truths and whole lies. What's worse, the simple-minded people he has suckered in. They want to believe in him so badly that they turn a blind eye and ear to everything that doesn't praise Trump. It doesn't matter how many lies and half-truths he tells.


AP Fact Check: Trump Overlooks MS-13 Gang’s American Roots


"President Donald Trump is portraying the violent MS-13 gang as a collection of immigrants sneaking illegally into the U.S., an account that ignores the organization’s homegrown roots and the fact many of its members are U.S. citizens".

http://www.voanews.com/a/ap-fact-check-trump-overlooks-ms-thirteen-gangs-american-roots/4244642.html


Obama Administration Targeting Street Gang MS-13


"The Treasury Department dubbed MS-13, or Mara Salvatrucha, a transnational criminal organization, and are working to freeze the gang’s money supplyand seize what is estimated to be millions of dollars in criminal profits from drug and human smuggling".

http://www.vibe.com/2012/10/obama-administration-targeting-street-gang-ms-13/

CBS news today 10/24/18

Packages was mailed to top Democrats ! Suspicious packages to Clintons, Obama, M Waters and others.

Investigation going oto see who sent them.

DNC probably behind it all .
Another tactic to blame on Republican administration


Just my opinion.

Whoever mailed the packages needs to be hunted down and held to the highest letter of the law.

Right, Middle, Left.. doesn't matter.

When nuts start doing this kind of stuff, they need to be found and made a example of.