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If you go into these poor communities, you see a plethora of liquor stores. And what's happening is that women - in this case, African-American women - don't know they're pregnant for the first month or two. They're engaging in social drinking causing fetal alcohol spectrum disorders in children. And so when you fast forward 17, 18 years later, look in the juvenile detention center, three-fourths of the children in those facilities can read - have something that looks like ADHD, have speech and language disorders, have poor impulse control, have poor social judgment. That's all fetal alcohol spectrum disorder. ___________________________________________________________________ So now its the booze the mother drank the first month or two of pregnancy...... And lets.. not.. fast forward 18 years to the detention center. Because it is my opinion those 18 years were the critical growing years, the years when you are supposed to be molding your kids.. teaching them right from wrong.. being there for them. Mentoring them. Making them go to school. Maybe if that was done, the kid does not wind up in the detention center. you can't just" fast forward" past those years and say it was the booze. Overview Fetal alcohol syndrome is a condition in a child that results from alcohol exposure during the mother's pregnancy. Fetal alcohol syndrome causes brain damage and growth problems. The problems caused by fetal alcohol syndrome vary from child to child, but defects caused by fetal alcohol syndrome are not reversible. the article doesnt say it is THE reason, it gives it as A reason. and it is a reason that cant be 'mentored' away anymore than the mental illnesses of school shooters or serial killers. Its the system.. the Government, the cops, the booze. Its everything except the parents... right? your kid throws a rock thru a window, acts up in school, steals from a store. Do they call the government?.. no they don't, they call the PARENT Why? Because the parent is responsible for their kids until they are of age. not the government, not the cops, not social workers... the parent. And when kids grow up watching their parent doing the wrong thing, such as drugs, not working, or their "baby daddy" being a thug.. or in prison that is what molds their mind. Because kids mimic what their parent (s) do in early life... is this really a surprise? So, at some point it is the people who raise these kids who have to stand up and take responsibility for their upbringing, not some other entity that didn't create them, that are not with them 24/7. And this is also no surprise to ANY parent who has raised kids. And in the case of the Gangster Disciples the long line of thugs go back to 1960. Generations of them. So when is that actually going to happen, ( personal responsibility within the black community for what you created and raised) because the situation is getting worse and worse. And the deflection of blame...are excuses.. and a cop out. lol... read a few pages up where I said sometimes its the parents but there is no simple answer suggesting its simply and always the parents. no deflections, just balance and logic and serious suggestions rather than mere scapegoating from a high horse ..... And what high horse would that be?. raising kids not to murder, not to terrorize. Yes, I did that. That is not a high horse... that is called being a father. Which 100's of millions have also done. Mothers and fathers. This high horse that you talk of is the standard in parenting. Nothing new. Handed down from generation to generation, Morals, values, responsibility. Why this is not taught in those areas is a question only those parents can answer. Certainty not a question the cops can answer, or the government, or the social worker, or school teachers.. it is a questions the parent (s) and family can only answer. And because this is not being done there we are considered scapegoating from a high horse? Was the democratic mayor of Chicago scapegoating from a high horse as well when he stated that maybe the black community should be teaching their kids morals and right from wrong or was he just telling the truth? Are these only my words? I certainly did not coin them. I am not the first to say them and I will not be the last. From politician on down to regular people, across all ethnic groups. telling the truth is not being on a high horse..it is just the truth.. which is soo hard for some to take because it is a reflection on them and their shortcomings. high horse: to start talking angrily about something bad that someone else has done as if you feel you are better or more clever than they are why do pastors who raise their kids inside of biblically disciplined homes get rebellious misbehaving kids? why do parents who raise up their kids in ultra fit ultra healthy homes sometimes get kids who grow up to embrace unhealthy habits? why do parents who raise their kids with the best of schooling and safety and love, end up with school shooters? answer: because we are NOT simply the product of how our parents raised us, we are not grown in a tunnel with just our parents, we are influenced and impacted upon by our ENVIRONMENTS AS WELL, especially as children so to unyieldingly suggest there is some simple answer of just 'its the parents fault for doing such a poor job', is a high horse attitude. And why do parent(s) raise their kids with no structure, no morals no role model, no sense of right and wrong.. then pawn the blame of the outcome on others. you'd have find which parents do that and ask them. A good starting place would be the 4 areas in Chicago.. wouldn't it? Because there appears to be a total breakdown there. who cares where we start. it could be chicago Excluding most suicides, at least 15,549 people were killed by guns in the United States in 2017, according to data collected by Gun Violence Archive (GVA), a nonprofit organization that tracks media and law enforcement reports of shootings. or other places In 2016, 10,497 people died in alcohol-impaired driving crashes, accounting for 28% of all traffic-related deaths in the United States. . In 2016, approximately 10,100 traffic fatalities could be attributed to speeding, representing 27 percent of the total traffic fatalities for that year. The profile of the "typical" drunk driver probably won't surprise many, either -- a binge-drinking young male. According to the study, men aged 21 to 34 made up a third of all drunk driving episodes, while men overall made up 80 percent of impaired drivers. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/millions-of-americans-admit-to-drunk-driving-cdc-finds/ I mean people dont obey road rules, parents fault. people kill their spouses, parents fault. people become serial killers, parents fault. people become rapists or arsonists, parents fault. Im sure to get to the bottom of 'bad parenting' it wont be as simple as focusing on chicago. I care.. others do as well for that reason these treads were made so please stay on the subject...( your own words)violence in Chicago. And we are not talking about nationwide, ( 100's of millions of people) we are talking about a city where there are 4 area that are ( and have been) totally out of control for a very long time leading to the shootings and murders of a very large amount of people. especially children. A place where thugs have taken over. A place where human life seems to have no value to thugs. And I care about children, very much So, I started the thread.. I care. yes, care about painting a whole racial demographic as poor parents, as if there is a monopoly on it in any one place or race in America. |
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Denying that blacks are struggling to strive doesn't help the problem. They need to be taught basic life skills and morals. They need a leader. They seem to only idolize rappers and athletes.
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Denying that blacks are struggling to strive doesn't help the problem. They need to be taught basic life skills and morals. They need a leader. They seem to only idolize rappers and athletes.
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Denying that blacks are struggling to strive doesn't help the problem. They need to be taught basic life skills and morals. They need a leader. They seem to only idolize rappers and athletes. no one denied blacks are struggling, blacks have BEEN struggling as was systematically designed for them to do, HISTORICALLY and for the overwhelming majority of time since the inception of the USA. painting a picture that blacks need to learn life skills and morals is the problem. They need it no more than any other race in this country. |
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Denying that blacks are struggling to strive doesn't help the problem. They need to be taught basic life skills and morals. They need a leader. They seem to only idolize rappers and athletes. no one denied blacks are struggling, blacks have BEEN struggling as was systematically designed for them to do, HISTORICALLY and for the overwhelming majority of time since the inception of the USA. painting a picture that blacks need to learn life skills and morals is the problem. They need it no more than any other race in this country. I would have to disagree considering black kids make up the majority of kids in dfcs custody. Blacks do need to learn basic life skills Look at what happens when a hurricane happens. The whites in nicer neighborhoods go in as soon as they think it's safe and clean out their flooded homes and start fixing. Blacks sit their complaining nobody is helping them. They need to do things for themselves and stop expecting others to do everything for then. They have just as many rights and opportunities as whites....maybe even more than whites. |
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Edited by
Toodygirl5
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Violence in Chicago is with gangs , gangsters who have no regard for human life adults or children. These individuals are criminals and need to be wiped out. Arrested and jailed.
Many live in poor neighborhoods where crime is high. Criminals come in ALL ethnic groups! There are educated blacks who do not raise their children as hoodlums! Also non educated black families raise their children respectable ! Many. black families in Chicago and other cities are responsible law abiding citizens of the US. Many single parent black families raise their children with good morals and respect for others! I know many respectable black families myself. Very nice and some hard working. Chicago has a huge gang problem , so does a few other Large Cities. Chicago' s murder rate is on the rise, I am sure that will get better with new Mayor and better City leadership! I know a friend from Chicago and he went to University of Michigan. |
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Denying that blacks are struggling to strive doesn't help the problem. They need to be taught basic life skills and morals. They need a leader. They seem to only idolize rappers and athletes. no one denied blacks are struggling, blacks have BEEN struggling as was systematically designed for them to do, HISTORICALLY and for the overwhelming majority of time since the inception of the USA. painting a picture that blacks need to learn life skills and morals is the problem. They need it no more than any other race in this country. I would have to disagree considering black kids make up the majority of kids in dfcs custody. Blacks do need to learn basic life skills Look at what happens when a hurricane happens. The whites in nicer neighborhoods go in as soon as they think it's safe and clean out their flooded homes and start fixing. Blacks sit their complaining nobody is helping them. They need to do things for themselves and stop expecting others to do everything for then. They have just as many rights and opportunities as whites....maybe even more than whites. kids in DCFS are a small portion of ALL kids who are not being raised well. and even then, as usual, this is misinformation you provide as actually 46 percent of DCFS children are white compared to 22 percent black https://www.childwelfare.gov/pubPDFs/racial_disproportionality.pdf and that doesnt count all the people breaking laws, those who are caught and those who are not, who, according to reasoning here, had poor parental rearing .... poverty and systemic racial discrepancy, is the issue, not race |
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On Wednesday child they try to 3 black kids for every one white kid here. You keep saying there isn't a problem. It does nothing to help black to act like it's normal.
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On Wednesday child they try to 3 black kids for every one white kid here. You keep saying there isn't a problem. It does nothing to help black to act like it's normal. whats not normal is insisting on pretending black people are uniquely immoral. no one debated what 'normal' behavior was. |
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If you go into these poor communities, you see a plethora of liquor stores. And what's happening is that women - in this case, African-American women - don't know they're pregnant for the first month or two. They're engaging in social drinking causing fetal alcohol spectrum disorders in children. And so when you fast forward 17, 18 years later, look in the juvenile detention center, three-fourths of the children in those facilities can read - have something that looks like ADHD, have speech and language disorders, have poor impulse control, have poor social judgment. That's all fetal alcohol spectrum disorder. ___________________________________________________________________ So now its the booze the mother drank the first month or two of pregnancy...... And lets.. not.. fast forward 18 years to the detention center. Because it is my opinion those 18 years were the critical growing years, the years when you are supposed to be molding your kids.. teaching them right from wrong.. being there for them. Mentoring them. Making them go to school. Maybe if that was done, the kid does not wind up in the detention center. you can't just" fast forward" past those years and say it was the booze. Overview Fetal alcohol syndrome is a condition in a child that results from alcohol exposure during the mother's pregnancy. Fetal alcohol syndrome causes brain damage and growth problems. The problems caused by fetal alcohol syndrome vary from child to child, but defects caused by fetal alcohol syndrome are not reversible. the article doesnt say it is THE reason, it gives it as A reason. and it is a reason that cant be 'mentored' away anymore than the mental illnesses of school shooters or serial killers. Its the system.. the Government, the cops, the booze. Its everything except the parents... right? your kid throws a rock thru a window, acts up in school, steals from a store. Do they call the government?.. no they don't, they call the PARENT Why? Because the parent is responsible for their kids until they are of age. not the government, not the cops, not social workers... the parent. And when kids grow up watching their parent doing the wrong thing, such as drugs, not working, or their "baby daddy" being a thug.. or in prison that is what molds their mind. Because kids mimic what their parent (s) do in early life... is this really a surprise? So, at some point it is the people who raise these kids who have to stand up and take responsibility for their upbringing, not some other entity that didn't create them, that are not with them 24/7. And this is also no surprise to ANY parent who has raised kids. And in the case of the Gangster Disciples the long line of thugs go back to 1960. Generations of them. So when is that actually going to happen, ( personal responsibility within the black community for what you created and raised) because the situation is getting worse and worse. And the deflection of blame...are excuses.. and a cop out. lol... read a few pages up where I said sometimes its the parents but there is no simple answer suggesting its simply and always the parents. no deflections, just balance and logic and serious suggestions rather than mere scapegoating from a high horse ..... And what high horse would that be?. raising kids not to murder, not to terrorize. Yes, I did that. That is not a high horse... that is called being a father. Which 100's of millions have also done. Mothers and fathers. This high horse that you talk of is the standard in parenting. Nothing new. Handed down from generation to generation, Morals, values, responsibility. Why this is not taught in those areas is a question only those parents can answer. Certainty not a question the cops can answer, or the government, or the social worker, or school teachers.. it is a questions the parent (s) and family can only answer. And because this is not being done there we are considered scapegoating from a high horse? Was the democratic mayor of Chicago scapegoating from a high horse as well when he stated that maybe the black community should be teaching their kids morals and right from wrong or was he just telling the truth? Are these only my words? I certainly did not coin them. I am not the first to say them and I will not be the last. From politician on down to regular people, across all ethnic groups. telling the truth is not being on a high horse..it is just the truth.. which is soo hard for some to take because it is a reflection on them and their shortcomings. high horse: to start talking angrily about something bad that someone else has done as if you feel you are better or more clever than they are why do pastors who raise their kids inside of biblically disciplined homes get rebellious misbehaving kids? why do parents who raise up their kids in ultra fit ultra healthy homes sometimes get kids who grow up to embrace unhealthy habits? why do parents who raise their kids with the best of schooling and safety and love, end up with school shooters? answer: because we are NOT simply the product of how our parents raised us, we are not grown in a tunnel with just our parents, we are influenced and impacted upon by our ENVIRONMENTS AS WELL, especially as children so to unyieldingly suggest there is some simple answer of just 'its the parents fault for doing such a poor job', is a high horse attitude. And why do parent(s) raise their kids with no structure, no morals no role model, no sense of right and wrong.. then pawn the blame of the outcome on others. you'd have find which parents do that and ask them. A good starting place would be the 4 areas in Chicago.. wouldn't it? Because there appears to be a total breakdown there. who cares where we start. it could be chicago Excluding most suicides, at least 15,549 people were killed by guns in the United States in 2017, according to data collected by Gun Violence Archive (GVA), a nonprofit organization that tracks media and law enforcement reports of shootings. or other places In 2016, 10,497 people died in alcohol-impaired driving crashes, accounting for 28% of all traffic-related deaths in the United States. . In 2016, approximately 10,100 traffic fatalities could be attributed to speeding, representing 27 percent of the total traffic fatalities for that year. The profile of the "typical" drunk driver probably won't surprise many, either -- a binge-drinking young male. According to the study, men aged 21 to 34 made up a third of all drunk driving episodes, while men overall made up 80 percent of impaired drivers. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/millions-of-americans-admit-to-drunk-driving-cdc-finds/ I mean people dont obey road rules, parents fault. people kill their spouses, parents fault. people become serial killers, parents fault. people become rapists or arsonists, parents fault. Im sure to get to the bottom of 'bad parenting' it wont be as simple as focusing on chicago. I care.. others do as well for that reason these treads were made so please stay on the subject...( your own words)violence in Chicago. And we are not talking about nationwide, ( 100's of millions of people) we are talking about a city where there are 4 area that are ( and have been) totally out of control for a very long time leading to the shootings and murders of a very large amount of people. especially children. A place where thugs have taken over. A place where human life seems to have no value to thugs. And I care about children, very much So, I started the thread.. I care. yes, care about painting a whole racial demographic as poor parents, as if there is a monopoly on it in any one place or race in America. No, this thread is about the reckless behavior currently going in Chicago. In 4 area controlled by the predominantly by the Gangster Disciples. And yes, I am saying that there is certainly a break down in family structure within the black community. And it is especially evident in those areas of Chicago. And it is copied in many many metro areas. This is also evident in the 5 of blacks committing serious crimes as opposed to their overall population in those metro areas. What is the ethnic make up of these areas of Chicago?.. It is black. As stated a few times before and I know because I live in this area. In N.Y.C. 75% of the serious violent crimes ( murder, shooting, rape, mugging , slashing's, robbery, car jacking, ect, ect) are committed by blacks, but blacks only make up 21% of the city population Same for most any metro area. Want to try Baltimore, Baton Rouge, Detroit, Gary, In. Newark, Camden, ect, ect? .. be my guest. And I do not make up these numbers, the cities, states, Dept. of Justice and F.B.I do.. so don't shoot the messenger. So, when you have 21% of the population committing 75% of the violent crimes in a certain area.. you would not call that a breakdown of moral, personal responsibility or the ability to know right from wrong. What would you call it. |
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Black men and women having kids out of wedlock is the norm. Tons of black kids don't know who dad is. Aids rate is high in blacks because of all the sexual partners. Whenever you see a mostly black community, crime rate is always higher.
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Denying that blacks are struggling to strive doesn't help the problem. They need to be taught basic life skills and morals. They need a leader. They seem to only idolize rappers and athletes. no one denied blacks are struggling, blacks have BEEN struggling as was systematically designed for them to do, HISTORICALLY and for the overwhelming majority of time since the inception of the USA. painting a picture that blacks need to learn life skills and morals is the problem. They need it no more than any other race in this country. All ethnic groups struggled, MS.. All of them. It is not just the blacks who had a tough time fitting in. The difference is those other ethnic groups worked their way out of the slums and worked their way into society. They did not use their history as a crutch to use forever. Look up the Chinese, the Irish. The Puerto Ricans, Cubans, ect, ect. .. hell, look what happened to the Jewish people.. can it possible get any worse then that to any ethnic group! |
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If you go into these poor communities, you see a plethora of liquor stores. And what's happening is that women - in this case, African-American women - don't know they're pregnant for the first month or two. They're engaging in social drinking causing fetal alcohol spectrum disorders in children. And so when you fast forward 17, 18 years later, look in the juvenile detention center, three-fourths of the children in those facilities can read - have something that looks like ADHD, have speech and language disorders, have poor impulse control, have poor social judgment. That's all fetal alcohol spectrum disorder. ___________________________________________________________________ So now its the booze the mother drank the first month or two of pregnancy...... And lets.. not.. fast forward 18 years to the detention center. Because it is my opinion those 18 years were the critical growing years, the years when you are supposed to be molding your kids.. teaching them right from wrong.. being there for them. Mentoring them. Making them go to school. Maybe if that was done, the kid does not wind up in the detention center. you can't just" fast forward" past those years and say it was the booze. Overview Fetal alcohol syndrome is a condition in a child that results from alcohol exposure during the mother's pregnancy. Fetal alcohol syndrome causes brain damage and growth problems. The problems caused by fetal alcohol syndrome vary from child to child, but defects caused by fetal alcohol syndrome are not reversible. the article doesnt say it is THE reason, it gives it as A reason. and it is a reason that cant be 'mentored' away anymore than the mental illnesses of school shooters or serial killers. Its the system.. the Government, the cops, the booze. Its everything except the parents... right? your kid throws a rock thru a window, acts up in school, steals from a store. Do they call the government?.. no they don't, they call the PARENT Why? Because the parent is responsible for their kids until they are of age. not the government, not the cops, not social workers... the parent. And when kids grow up watching their parent doing the wrong thing, such as drugs, not working, or their "baby daddy" being a thug.. or in prison that is what molds their mind. Because kids mimic what their parent (s) do in early life... is this really a surprise? So, at some point it is the people who raise these kids who have to stand up and take responsibility for their upbringing, not some other entity that didn't create them, that are not with them 24/7. And this is also no surprise to ANY parent who has raised kids. And in the case of the Gangster Disciples the long line of thugs go back to 1960. Generations of them. So when is that actually going to happen, ( personal responsibility within the black community for what you created and raised) because the situation is getting worse and worse. And the deflection of blame...are excuses.. and a cop out. lol... read a few pages up where I said sometimes its the parents but there is no simple answer suggesting its simply and always the parents. no deflections, just balance and logic and serious suggestions rather than mere scapegoating from a high horse ..... And what high horse would that be?. raising kids not to murder, not to terrorize. Yes, I did that. That is not a high horse... that is called being a father. Which 100's of millions have also done. Mothers and fathers. This high horse that you talk of is the standard in parenting. Nothing new. Handed down from generation to generation, Morals, values, responsibility. Why this is not taught in those areas is a question only those parents can answer. Certainty not a question the cops can answer, or the government, or the social worker, or school teachers.. it is a questions the parent (s) and family can only answer. And because this is not being done there we are considered scapegoating from a high horse? Was the democratic mayor of Chicago scapegoating from a high horse as well when he stated that maybe the black community should be teaching their kids morals and right from wrong or was he just telling the truth? Are these only my words? I certainly did not coin them. I am not the first to say them and I will not be the last. From politician on down to regular people, across all ethnic groups. telling the truth is not being on a high horse..it is just the truth.. which is soo hard for some to take because it is a reflection on them and their shortcomings. high horse: to start talking angrily about something bad that someone else has done as if you feel you are better or more clever than they are why do pastors who raise their kids inside of biblically disciplined homes get rebellious misbehaving kids? why do parents who raise up their kids in ultra fit ultra healthy homes sometimes get kids who grow up to embrace unhealthy habits? why do parents who raise their kids with the best of schooling and safety and love, end up with school shooters? answer: because we are NOT simply the product of how our parents raised us, we are not grown in a tunnel with just our parents, we are influenced and impacted upon by our ENVIRONMENTS AS WELL, especially as children so to unyieldingly suggest there is some simple answer of just 'its the parents fault for doing such a poor job', is a high horse attitude. And why do parent(s) raise their kids with no structure, no morals no role model, no sense of right and wrong.. then pawn the blame of the outcome on others. you'd have find which parents do that and ask them. A good starting place would be the 4 areas in Chicago.. wouldn't it? Because there appears to be a total breakdown there. who cares where we start. it could be chicago Excluding most suicides, at least 15,549 people were killed by guns in the United States in 2017, according to data collected by Gun Violence Archive (GVA), a nonprofit organization that tracks media and law enforcement reports of shootings. or other places In 2016, 10,497 people died in alcohol-impaired driving crashes, accounting for 28% of all traffic-related deaths in the United States. . In 2016, approximately 10,100 traffic fatalities could be attributed to speeding, representing 27 percent of the total traffic fatalities for that year. The profile of the "typical" drunk driver probably won't surprise many, either -- a binge-drinking young male. According to the study, men aged 21 to 34 made up a third of all drunk driving episodes, while men overall made up 80 percent of impaired drivers. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/millions-of-americans-admit-to-drunk-driving-cdc-finds/ I mean people dont obey road rules, parents fault. people kill their spouses, parents fault. people become serial killers, parents fault. people become rapists or arsonists, parents fault. Im sure to get to the bottom of 'bad parenting' it wont be as simple as focusing on chicago. I care.. others do as well for that reason these treads were made so please stay on the subject...( your own words)violence in Chicago. And we are not talking about nationwide, ( 100's of millions of people) we are talking about a city where there are 4 area that are ( and have been) totally out of control for a very long time leading to the shootings and murders of a very large amount of people. especially children. A place where thugs have taken over. A place where human life seems to have no value to thugs. And I care about children, very much So, I started the thread.. I care. yes, care about painting a whole racial demographic as poor parents, as if there is a monopoly on it in any one place or race in America. No, this thread is about the reckless behavior currently going in Chicago. In 4 area controlled by the predominantly by the Gangster Disciples. And yes, I am saying that there is certainly a break down in family structure within the black community. And it is especially evident in those areas of Chicago. And it is copied in many many metro areas. This is also evident in the 5 of blacks committing serious crimes as opposed to their overall population in those metro areas. What is the ethnic make up of these areas of Chicago?.. It is black. As stated a few times before and I know because I live in this area. In N.Y.C. 75% of the serious violent crimes ( murder, shooting, rape, mugging , slashing's, robbery, car jacking, ect, ect) are committed by blacks, but blacks only make up 21% of the city population Same for most any metro area. Want to try Baltimore, Baton Rouge, Detroit, Gary, In. Newark, Camden, ect, ect? .. be my guest. And I do not make up these numbers, the cities, states, Dept. of Justice and F.B.I do.. so don't shoot the messenger. So, when you have 21% of the population committing 75% of the violent crimes in a certain area.. you would not call that a breakdown of moral, personal responsibility or the ability to know right from wrong. What would you call it. I call it a breakdown in THAT area, not a testimony of the morality of an entire race. I call it the effects of disparate wealth and concentrated poverty and deplenished resources. I call it purposefully ignoring all the other TYPES of crimes people from all races commit on the DAILY which also signifies the same alleged 'breakdown' in their ability to know right from wrong or failings of the parents. Talk about chicago, fine, try to make it about black people in general, Im gonna call it. |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Black men and women having kids out of wedlock is the norm. Tons of black kids don't know who dad is. Aids rate is high in blacks because of all the sexual partners. Whenever you see a mostly black community, crime rate is always higher. and? in 1970, unmarried white women had children at the rate of 13.9 per 1.000 unwed mothers compared to black women at 95.5 yet today, the rate has grown with white women to 44.5 and decreased with black women to 65.3, so talk to your own 'sisters' about slowing their role maybe ... black women already started ... https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hus/2011/007.pdf there is no evidence of WHY aids rate is high in blacks, I dont think most people know when they SEE an all black community because people arent hanging out in their yards most times for you to observe their race. |
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Denying that blacks are struggling to strive doesn't help the problem. They need to be taught basic life skills and morals. They need a leader. They seem to only idolize rappers and athletes. no one denied blacks are struggling, blacks have BEEN struggling as was systematically designed for them to do, HISTORICALLY and for the overwhelming majority of time since the inception of the USA. painting a picture that blacks need to learn life skills and morals is the problem. They need it no more than any other race in this country. All ethnic groups struggled, MS.. All of them. It is not just the blacks who had a tough time fitting in. The difference is those other ethnic groups worked their way out of the slums and worked their way into society. They did not use their history as a crutch to use forever. Look up the Chinese, the Irish. The Puerto Ricans, Cubans, ect, ect. .. hell, look what happened to the Jewish people.. can it possible get any worse then that to any ethnic group! were any of these people forcefully taken from their homeland, denied their history and their name, denied education, sepearated from their families, and subjugated to status of only property for hundreds of years? no. different circumstances and History altogether. |
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My sister was married at 18 and had her 1st child at 24. I taught my kids morals. My son doesn't have illegitimate kids. My daughter has two kids and will have been married 11 years next month. So now tell me how many family members do you have with illegitimate kids? I'm sure you answer will be none.
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If you go into these poor communities, you see a plethora of liquor stores. And what's happening is that women - in this case, African-American women - don't know they're pregnant for the first month or two. They're engaging in social drinking causing fetal alcohol spectrum disorders in children. And so when you fast forward 17, 18 years later, look in the juvenile detention center, three-fourths of the children in those facilities can read - have something that looks like ADHD, have speech and language disorders, have poor impulse control, have poor social judgment. That's all fetal alcohol spectrum disorder. ___________________________________________________________________ So now its the booze the mother drank the first month or two of pregnancy...... And lets.. not.. fast forward 18 years to the detention center. Because it is my opinion those 18 years were the critical growing years, the years when you are supposed to be molding your kids.. teaching them right from wrong.. being there for them. Mentoring them. Making them go to school. Maybe if that was done, the kid does not wind up in the detention center. you can't just" fast forward" past those years and say it was the booze. Overview Fetal alcohol syndrome is a condition in a child that results from alcohol exposure during the mother's pregnancy. Fetal alcohol syndrome causes brain damage and growth problems. The problems caused by fetal alcohol syndrome vary from child to child, but defects caused by fetal alcohol syndrome are not reversible. the article doesnt say it is THE reason, it gives it as A reason. and it is a reason that cant be 'mentored' away anymore than the mental illnesses of school shooters or serial killers. Its the system.. the Government, the cops, the booze. Its everything except the parents... right? your kid throws a rock thru a window, acts up in school, steals from a store. Do they call the government?.. no they don't, they call the PARENT Why? Because the parent is responsible for their kids until they are of age. not the government, not the cops, not social workers... the parent. And when kids grow up watching their parent doing the wrong thing, such as drugs, not working, or their "baby daddy" being a thug.. or in prison that is what molds their mind. Because kids mimic what their parent (s) do in early life... is this really a surprise? So, at some point it is the people who raise these kids who have to stand up and take responsibility for their upbringing, not some other entity that didn't create them, that are not with them 24/7. And this is also no surprise to ANY parent who has raised kids. And in the case of the Gangster Disciples the long line of thugs go back to 1960. Generations of them. So when is that actually going to happen, ( personal responsibility within the black community for what you created and raised) because the situation is getting worse and worse. And the deflection of blame...are excuses.. and a cop out. lol... read a few pages up where I said sometimes its the parents but there is no simple answer suggesting its simply and always the parents. no deflections, just balance and logic and serious suggestions rather than mere scapegoating from a high horse ..... And what high horse would that be?. raising kids not to murder, not to terrorize. Yes, I did that. That is not a high horse... that is called being a father. Which 100's of millions have also done. Mothers and fathers. This high horse that you talk of is the standard in parenting. Nothing new. Handed down from generation to generation, Morals, values, responsibility. Why this is not taught in those areas is a question only those parents can answer. Certainty not a question the cops can answer, or the government, or the social worker, or school teachers.. it is a questions the parent (s) and family can only answer. And because this is not being done there we are considered scapegoating from a high horse? Was the democratic mayor of Chicago scapegoating from a high horse as well when he stated that maybe the black community should be teaching their kids morals and right from wrong or was he just telling the truth? Are these only my words? I certainly did not coin them. I am not the first to say them and I will not be the last. From politician on down to regular people, across all ethnic groups. telling the truth is not being on a high horse..it is just the truth.. which is soo hard for some to take because it is a reflection on them and their shortcomings. high horse: to start talking angrily about something bad that someone else has done as if you feel you are better or more clever than they are why do pastors who raise their kids inside of biblically disciplined homes get rebellious misbehaving kids? why do parents who raise up their kids in ultra fit ultra healthy homes sometimes get kids who grow up to embrace unhealthy habits? why do parents who raise their kids with the best of schooling and safety and love, end up with school shooters? answer: because we are NOT simply the product of how our parents raised us, we are not grown in a tunnel with just our parents, we are influenced and impacted upon by our ENVIRONMENTS AS WELL, especially as children so to unyieldingly suggest there is some simple answer of just 'its the parents fault for doing such a poor job', is a high horse attitude. And why do parent(s) raise their kids with no structure, no morals no role model, no sense of right and wrong.. then pawn the blame of the outcome on others. you'd have find which parents do that and ask them. A good starting place would be the 4 areas in Chicago.. wouldn't it? Because there appears to be a total breakdown there. who cares where we start. it could be chicago Excluding most suicides, at least 15,549 people were killed by guns in the United States in 2017, according to data collected by Gun Violence Archive (GVA), a nonprofit organization that tracks media and law enforcement reports of shootings. or other places In 2016, 10,497 people died in alcohol-impaired driving crashes, accounting for 28% of all traffic-related deaths in the United States. . In 2016, approximately 10,100 traffic fatalities could be attributed to speeding, representing 27 percent of the total traffic fatalities for that year. The profile of the "typical" drunk driver probably won't surprise many, either -- a binge-drinking young male. According to the study, men aged 21 to 34 made up a third of all drunk driving episodes, while men overall made up 80 percent of impaired drivers. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/millions-of-americans-admit-to-drunk-driving-cdc-finds/ I mean people dont obey road rules, parents fault. people kill their spouses, parents fault. people become serial killers, parents fault. people become rapists or arsonists, parents fault. Im sure to get to the bottom of 'bad parenting' it wont be as simple as focusing on chicago. I care.. others do as well for that reason these treads were made so please stay on the subject...( your own words)violence in Chicago. And we are not talking about nationwide, ( 100's of millions of people) we are talking about a city where there are 4 area that are ( and have been) totally out of control for a very long time leading to the shootings and murders of a very large amount of people. especially children. A place where thugs have taken over. A place where human life seems to have no value to thugs. And I care about children, very much So, I started the thread.. I care. yes, care about painting a whole racial demographic as poor parents, as if there is a monopoly on it in any one place or race in America. No, this thread is about the reckless behavior currently going in Chicago. In 4 area controlled by the predominantly by the Gangster Disciples. And yes, I am saying that there is certainly a break down in family structure within the black community. And it is especially evident in those areas of Chicago. And it is copied in many many metro areas. This is also evident in the 5 of blacks committing serious crimes as opposed to their overall population in those metro areas. What is the ethnic make up of these areas of Chicago?.. It is black. As stated a few times before and I know because I live in this area. In N.Y.C. 75% of the serious violent crimes ( murder, shooting, rape, mugging , slashing's, robbery, car jacking, ect, ect) are committed by blacks, but blacks only make up 21% of the city population Same for most any metro area. Want to try Baltimore, Baton Rouge, Detroit, Gary, In. Newark, Camden, ect, ect? .. be my guest. And I do not make up these numbers, the cities, states, Dept. of Justice and F.B.I do.. so don't shoot the messenger. So, when you have 21% of the population committing 75% of the violent crimes in a certain area.. you would not call that a breakdown of moral, personal responsibility or the ability to know right from wrong. What would you call it. I call it a breakdown in THAT area, not a testimony of the morality of an entire race. I call it the effects of disparate wealth and concentrated poverty and deplenished resources. I call it purposefully ignoring all the other TYPES of crimes people from all races commit on the DAILY which also signifies the same alleged 'breakdown' in their ability to know right from wrong or failings of the parents. Talk about chicago, fine, try to make it about black people in general, Im gonna call it. Call it what you want. Because.. I to will call you on it.... I call it a breakdown in fundamental skills, such as I have listed on my last post. Have since day 1. And I have called it for a very long time. And I have backed that up with fact. Not words.. facts.. from entities such as cities, state and federal law enforcement agencies. Again, I don't make these urban crime rate numbers up. So clearly I am not the only one to see it.. Just ask the Democratic mayor of Chicago.. he sees it too... and he runs the city. So, you call me on anything you please.. I have no problem with that.. I prefer it. But back it up with fact.. o.k. And I will continue call you on issues... and you know I have no problem with that as well. |
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My sister was married at 18 and had her 1st child at 24. I taught my kids morals. My son doesn't have illegitimate kids. My daughter has two kids and will have been married 11 years next month. So now tell me how many family members do you have with illegitimate kids? I'm sure you answer will be none. you would be correct. None in my family either. Though I would not consider a marriage certificate proof of someones morals in general, anyone who had children in my family was married. |
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If you go into these poor communities, you see a plethora of liquor stores. And what's happening is that women - in this case, African-American women - don't know they're pregnant for the first month or two. They're engaging in social drinking causing fetal alcohol spectrum disorders in children. And so when you fast forward 17, 18 years later, look in the juvenile detention center, three-fourths of the children in those facilities can read - have something that looks like ADHD, have speech and language disorders, have poor impulse control, have poor social judgment. That's all fetal alcohol spectrum disorder. ___________________________________________________________________ So now its the booze the mother drank the first month or two of pregnancy...... And lets.. not.. fast forward 18 years to the detention center. Because it is my opinion those 18 years were the critical growing years, the years when you are supposed to be molding your kids.. teaching them right from wrong.. being there for them. Mentoring them. Making them go to school. Maybe if that was done, the kid does not wind up in the detention center. you can't just" fast forward" past those years and say it was the booze. Overview Fetal alcohol syndrome is a condition in a child that results from alcohol exposure during the mother's pregnancy. Fetal alcohol syndrome causes brain damage and growth problems. The problems caused by fetal alcohol syndrome vary from child to child, but defects caused by fetal alcohol syndrome are not reversible. the article doesnt say it is THE reason, it gives it as A reason. and it is a reason that cant be 'mentored' away anymore than the mental illnesses of school shooters or serial killers. Its the system.. the Government, the cops, the booze. Its everything except the parents... right? your kid throws a rock thru a window, acts up in school, steals from a store. Do they call the government?.. no they don't, they call the PARENT Why? Because the parent is responsible for their kids until they are of age. not the government, not the cops, not social workers... the parent. And when kids grow up watching their parent doing the wrong thing, such as drugs, not working, or their "baby daddy" being a thug.. or in prison that is what molds their mind. Because kids mimic what their parent (s) do in early life... is this really a surprise? So, at some point it is the people who raise these kids who have to stand up and take responsibility for their upbringing, not some other entity that didn't create them, that are not with them 24/7. And this is also no surprise to ANY parent who has raised kids. And in the case of the Gangster Disciples the long line of thugs go back to 1960. Generations of them. So when is that actually going to happen, ( personal responsibility within the black community for what you created and raised) because the situation is getting worse and worse. And the deflection of blame...are excuses.. and a cop out. lol... read a few pages up where I said sometimes its the parents but there is no simple answer suggesting its simply and always the parents. no deflections, just balance and logic and serious suggestions rather than mere scapegoating from a high horse ..... And what high horse would that be?. raising kids not to murder, not to terrorize. Yes, I did that. That is not a high horse... that is called being a father. Which 100's of millions have also done. Mothers and fathers. This high horse that you talk of is the standard in parenting. Nothing new. Handed down from generation to generation, Morals, values, responsibility. Why this is not taught in those areas is a question only those parents can answer. Certainty not a question the cops can answer, or the government, or the social worker, or school teachers.. it is a questions the parent (s) and family can only answer. And because this is not being done there we are considered scapegoating from a high horse? Was the democratic mayor of Chicago scapegoating from a high horse as well when he stated that maybe the black community should be teaching their kids morals and right from wrong or was he just telling the truth? Are these only my words? I certainly did not coin them. I am not the first to say them and I will not be the last. From politician on down to regular people, across all ethnic groups. telling the truth is not being on a high horse..it is just the truth.. which is soo hard for some to take because it is a reflection on them and their shortcomings. high horse: to start talking angrily about something bad that someone else has done as if you feel you are better or more clever than they are why do pastors who raise their kids inside of biblically disciplined homes get rebellious misbehaving kids? why do parents who raise up their kids in ultra fit ultra healthy homes sometimes get kids who grow up to embrace unhealthy habits? why do parents who raise their kids with the best of schooling and safety and love, end up with school shooters? answer: because we are NOT simply the product of how our parents raised us, we are not grown in a tunnel with just our parents, we are influenced and impacted upon by our ENVIRONMENTS AS WELL, especially as children so to unyieldingly suggest there is some simple answer of just 'its the parents fault for doing such a poor job', is a high horse attitude. And why do parent(s) raise their kids with no structure, no morals no role model, no sense of right and wrong.. then pawn the blame of the outcome on others. you'd have find which parents do that and ask them. A good starting place would be the 4 areas in Chicago.. wouldn't it? Because there appears to be a total breakdown there. who cares where we start. it could be chicago Excluding most suicides, at least 15,549 people were killed by guns in the United States in 2017, according to data collected by Gun Violence Archive (GVA), a nonprofit organization that tracks media and law enforcement reports of shootings. or other places In 2016, 10,497 people died in alcohol-impaired driving crashes, accounting for 28% of all traffic-related deaths in the United States. . In 2016, approximately 10,100 traffic fatalities could be attributed to speeding, representing 27 percent of the total traffic fatalities for that year. The profile of the "typical" drunk driver probably won't surprise many, either -- a binge-drinking young male. According to the study, men aged 21 to 34 made up a third of all drunk driving episodes, while men overall made up 80 percent of impaired drivers. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/millions-of-americans-admit-to-drunk-driving-cdc-finds/ I mean people dont obey road rules, parents fault. people kill their spouses, parents fault. people become serial killers, parents fault. people become rapists or arsonists, parents fault. Im sure to get to the bottom of 'bad parenting' it wont be as simple as focusing on chicago. I care.. others do as well for that reason these treads were made so please stay on the subject...( your own words)violence in Chicago. And we are not talking about nationwide, ( 100's of millions of people) we are talking about a city where there are 4 area that are ( and have been) totally out of control for a very long time leading to the shootings and murders of a very large amount of people. especially children. A place where thugs have taken over. A place where human life seems to have no value to thugs. And I care about children, very much So, I started the thread.. I care. yes, care about painting a whole racial demographic as poor parents, as if there is a monopoly on it in any one place or race in America. No, this thread is about the reckless behavior currently going in Chicago. In 4 area controlled by the predominantly by the Gangster Disciples. And yes, I am saying that there is certainly a break down in family structure within the black community. And it is especially evident in those areas of Chicago. And it is copied in many many metro areas. This is also evident in the 5 of blacks committing serious crimes as opposed to their overall population in those metro areas. What is the ethnic make up of these areas of Chicago?.. It is black. As stated a few times before and I know because I live in this area. In N.Y.C. 75% of the serious violent crimes ( murder, shooting, rape, mugging , slashing's, robbery, car jacking, ect, ect) are committed by blacks, but blacks only make up 21% of the city population Same for most any metro area. Want to try Baltimore, Baton Rouge, Detroit, Gary, In. Newark, Camden, ect, ect? .. be my guest. And I do not make up these numbers, the cities, states, Dept. of Justice and F.B.I do.. so don't shoot the messenger. So, when you have 21% of the population committing 75% of the violent crimes in a certain area.. you would not call that a breakdown of moral, personal responsibility or the ability to know right from wrong. What would you call it. I call it a breakdown in THAT area, not a testimony of the morality of an entire race. I call it the effects of disparate wealth and concentrated poverty and deplenished resources. I call it purposefully ignoring all the other TYPES of crimes people from all races commit on the DAILY which also signifies the same alleged 'breakdown' in their ability to know right from wrong or failings of the parents. Talk about chicago, fine, try to make it about black people in general, Im gonna call it. Call it what you want. Because.. I to will call you on it.... I call it a breakdown in fundamental skills, such as I have listed on my last post. Have since day 1. And I have called it for a very long time. And I have backed that up with fact. Not words.. facts.. from entities such as cities, state and federal law enforcement agencies. Again, I don't make these urban crime rate numbers up. So clearly I am not the only one to see it.. Just ask the Democratic mayor of Chicago.. he sees it too... and he runs the city. So, you call me on anything you please.. I have no problem with that.. I prefer it. But back it up with fact.. o.k. And I will continue call you on issues... and you know I have no problem with that as well. i have no issue. I continuously INCLUDE that some black parents fail. the issue is people who want to pretend that black parents, by virtue of being black, are inferior in knowing how to instill morals into their kids. there have been no facts to back it up, only outliers of extreme concentrated poverty with no relevance to the black demographic AS A WHOLE. If someone were to post about the man who recently killed his wife claiming she killed his kids, would I be sitting here asking about the moral failings and shortcomings of white parents who didnt teach their kids about coping skills? No. Would I go on and on about my need to call out what I "see" with all the white people taking themselves and their families out at the least bit of bad news? No. So please stop with the bigotry trying to make moral failings a racial issue. |
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Denying that blacks are struggling to strive doesn't help the problem. They need to be taught basic life skills and morals. They need a leader. They seem to only idolize rappers and athletes. no one denied blacks are struggling, blacks have BEEN struggling as was systematically designed for them to do, HISTORICALLY and for the overwhelming majority of time since the inception of the USA. painting a picture that blacks need to learn life skills and morals is the problem. They need it no more than any other race in this country. All ethnic groups struggled, MS.. All of them. It is not just the blacks who had a tough time fitting in. The difference is those other ethnic groups worked their way out of the slums and worked their way into society. They did not use their history as a crutch to use forever. Look up the Chinese, the Irish. The Puerto Ricans, Cubans, ect, ect. .. hell, look what happened to the Jewish people.. can it possible get any worse then that to any ethnic group! were any of these people forcefully taken from their homeland, denied their history and their name, denied education, sepearated from their families, and subjugated to status of only property for hundreds of years? no. different circumstances and History altogether. Did any of these things happen to you? Were you separated from family and weren't given a chance to get an education? Are you being denied owning property because you are black? |
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