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Topic: Trump ends Obama seperation policy!
Lpdon Joined Thu 02/25/10 Posts: 18772	Sat 06/23/18 12:17 AM
don't fall for the false rhetoric that most these illegals are only coming here to engage in some sort of criminal enterprise, yes there may be a small percent who do, but the vast majority of the 11 million illegals are just hard working honest people who are trying to better their lot in life...most all of them represent an oppressed labor work-force who willingly work for sub-standard wages... so when all is said and done, and these people are all deported from our country be prepared for 6 to 7 dollar a head lettuce and 5 or 6 dollar a pound for tomatoes etc etc...because the big agri-conglomerates that feed you are not going to sacrifice their profit one iota, the higher cost of labor will only be passed on to YOU the consumer... tell me, who among you legal citizens are willing to work stoop labor in the hot sun 12 hours a day for 6 dollars or less per hour with no benefits ??? any takers for this work ??? be careful what you ask for, you just might get it... So your saying most of them are law abiding?

Easttowest72 Joined Tue 04/24/18 Posts: 2169	Sat 06/23/18 01:17 AM
That will teach them not to bring their kids into another country illegally. Kids are probably better off without them. I'm sure your kids feel the same way about you.. Coming from someone who brags they would help their brother while their child sits on welfare. Lol

Viper1j Joined Tue 12/04/12 Posts: 803	Sat 06/23/18 02:41 AM
Yes, Illegals who can barely live on 20 dollars a day in Mexico can afford to hire planes to fly them out or have enough money and equipment to dig tunnels under the wall. good lord. You're absolutely right. The magical will will only keep out the people that are honestly looking for a better life. It won't even be a bump in the road for the drug traffickers gun runners. According to your Lord and Savior Donnie, the magical wall is supposed to be built specifically for those people. Perhaps after the wall fails, he can start looking at the possibility of a great magical bubble over the entire country.

Viper1j Joined Tue 12/04/12 Posts: 803	Sat 06/23/18 06:03 AM
You have now entered Bizarro World, USA the land of alternative reality... welcome, and please enjoy the comfort of your very own luxurious private sandpit to bury your head in deeply... Do you mean the democrats have taken over? Because anything with a liberal backing is "bizarro" from aborting your babies to supporting illegals while bashing American citizens. So grab your snacks and watch the democrats go down in flames in the upcoming election. Don't believe me , well that's another sign your not tuned into reality . Get a grip and a box of Kleenex , your going to need them. Lol lol lol. Very doubtful. All Democrats have to do, is use this. He's Donald J Trump, and he approved this ad. Vote Democrat Some ads write themselves. That's not an adequate representation and frankly that is extremely offensive. Those children in that picture were there so they could be tortured, experimented on and then killed. These children will either be sent back to their home country or transferred to the Department of Health and Human Services for placement. Hardly the reason the Nazi's were putting them in Concentration camps. These children will be fed, clothed have access to doctors where in concentration camps they didn't have any of that. Also we can only detain them for a short period (less then a month) before they have to be released under the law unlike the Nazi's who kept people for years before they were killed. Oh, by the way.. The kids DID have access to a doctor. His name was Josef Menegele.

tombraider Joined Wed 09/12/07 Posts: 5042	Sat 06/23/18 07:02 AM Edited by tombraider on Sat 06/23/18 07:12 AM
Don't follow the bouncing ball thrown by the main stream media..they are still being controlled by the Deep State..All these stories against Trump that have continuously been found to be false..all the fake news that is being spoon fed to the public Syrian gas attack,Russian collusion,Russian poisoning..now fake pictures of fake news that have been easily debunked means it was just as easy for the news media to know the truth before they wrote some of these stories..THEY KNOW ..divide and conquer. The Deep State will stop at nothing to complete their agenda towards a New World Order..And some unknowingly are helping them but they have NO IDEA what their agenda really is..There are those who believe that because they oppose Trump that the other side is better..it's far WORSE than you can ever imagine..follow the rabbit.. The freedom that you know is only that which has been given..EYES WIDE OPEN Don't just listen to what's being told ..they have used the "idiot box" against us for far too long..rather well they have "brainwashed" the masses quite effectively,but their archaic means have become outdated,and not as effective in our technological realm..We have the power to educate ourselves like never before and it's that knowledge that will allow us to rise up against this tyranny running silent running DEEP....DOWN the rabbit hole we go..SEARCH for the truth it's out there... We Are ANONYMOUS..We Are Legion

diserli_gears Joined Thu 06/07/18 Posts: 1369	Sat 06/23/18 07:10 AM
i'm not here to educate you, look up the facts for yourself... "I really don't care" but if you want you can start with checking crime statistics of illegals vs. us citizens on a per capita basis.. you can clearly see illegals are far less likely to engage in a a criminal enterprise than a us citizen is... but as i said...I really don't care if you do or not... Your arrogance offends me, you have no Idea what you're talking about, the moment you posted your per capita argument I knew you were just parroting left wing rhetoric vs discussing the issue. btw, since when is it anybody's business what i do with or where i send any of my money ??? am i not allowed to keep my money in an off-shore tax haven as the elite so often do ?? Irrelevant

Viper1j Joined Tue 12/04/12 Posts: 803	Sat 06/23/18 07:37 AM
Don't follow the bouncing ball thrown by the main stream media..they are still being controlled by the Deep State..All these stories against Trump that have continuously been found to be false..all the fake news that is being spoon fed to the public Syrian gas attack,Russian collusion,Russian poisoning..now fake pictures of fake news that have been easily debunked means it was just as easy for the news media to know the truth before they wrote some of these stories..THEY KNOW ..divide and conquer. The Deep State will stop at nothing to complete their agenda towards a New World Order..And some unknowingly are helping them but they have NO IDEA what their agenda really is..There are those who believe that because they oppose Trump that the other side is better..it's far WORSE than you can ever imagine..follow the rabbit.. The freedom that you know is only that which has been given..EYES WIDE OPEN Don't just listen to what's being told ..they have used the "idiot box" against us for far too long..rather well they have "brainwashed" the masses quite effectively,but their archaic means have become outdated,and not as effective in our technological realm..We have the power to educate ourselves like never before and it's that knowledge that will allow us to rise up against this tyranny running silent running DEEP....DOWN the rabbit hole we go..SEARCH for the truth it's out there... We Are ANONYMOUS..We Are Legion You forgot about the aliens and that whole **** probe thing.

tombraider Joined Wed 09/12/07 Posts: 5042	Sat 06/23/18 08:30 AM Edited by tombraider on Sat 06/23/18 08:50 AM
One has NOTHING to do with the other...

Viper1j Joined Tue 12/04/12 Posts: 803	Sat 06/23/18 09:10 AM
What? You really didn't know that aliens are day laborers for the "Deep State"?

IgorFrankensteen Joined Thu 10/01/09 Posts: 5444	Sat 06/23/18 10:02 AM
Just checking. Anyone point out that the thread title is entirely false yet? Regardless of who is responsible for the family separation policy, Trump did NOT end it. His executive order only put it off for twenty days.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sat 06/23/18 10:07 AM
Just checking. Anyone point out that the thread title is entirely false yet? Regardless of who is responsible for the family separation policy, Trump did NOT end it. His executive order only put it off for twenty days. I dont think a largely Trump supporting crowd would point that out, starting with the false charge of it being 'OBama' policy.

Viper1j Joined Tue 12/04/12 Posts: 803	Sat 06/23/18 10:14 AM
I haven't figured out where Obama found the time to mess everything up. After all, the Donnies said he was Spiderman, climbing Trump tower and planting bugs.

diserli_gears Joined Thu 06/07/18 Posts: 1369	Sat 06/23/18 10:19 AM
Just checking. Anyone point out that the thread title is entirely false yet? Regardless of who is responsible for the family separation policy, Trump did NOT end it. His executive order only put it off for twenty days. No different than any other Leftist threads. I dont think a largely Trump supporting crowd would point that out, starting with the false charge of it being 'OBama' policy. Interesting that you say that, so when the pictures of the camp appeared in 2014 , why was the left not horrified over it? I haven't figured out where Obama found the time to mess everything up. After all, the Donnies said he was Spiderman, climbing Trump tower and planting bugs Yeah, yeah, yeah-yeah-yeah And the man in the back said everyone attack And it turned into a ballroom blitz And the girl in the corner said boy I want to warn you It'll turn into a ballroom blitz

eric22t Joined Wed 08/13/14 Posts: 27928	Sat 06/23/18 11:55 AM
no that is the mistake. because mom is illegal and subject so is her child. The correct interpretation of the 14th Amendment is that an illegal alien mother is subject to the jurisdiction of her native country, as is her baby. The phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" was intended to exclude American-born persons from automatic citizenship whose allegiance to the United States was not complete. With illegal aliens who are unlawfully in the United States, their native country has a claim of allegiance on the child. Thus, the completeness of their allegiance to the United States is impaired, which therefore precludes automatic citizenship. and supreme court supported this Have a citation? Google isn't revealing any Supreme Court ruling on that. One instance that comes to mind, is that of martial arts legend Bruce Lee, who was born in San Francisco, while his Chinese parents were performing with a traveling theater group. Based on his birth certificate, showing a California birth, he was automatically declared a citizen upon entering. No one ever raised the question as to his "being subject to the jurisdiction thereof". It will be interesting to see what year that ruling was made, if I can find it. here is where i pulled that from http://www.14thamendment.us/birthright_citizenship/original_intent.html

eric22t Joined Wed 08/13/14 Posts: 27928	Sat 06/23/18 11:58 AM
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. this line is what makes an illegal aliens' child born on us soil not a citizen. the mother still is subject to the jurisdiction of her home country. the usa does not recognize dual citizenship but it makes the CHILD a citizen, being born in the US. all persons BORN ... that would be the child and here it is again for you ms h The phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" was intended to exclude American-born persons from automatic citizenship whose allegiance to the United States was not complete. With illegal aliens who are unlawfully in the United States, their native country has a claim of allegiance on the child. Thus, the completeness of their allegiance to the United States is impaired, which therefore precludes automatic citizenship. and supreme court supported this

Viper1j Joined Tue 12/04/12 Posts: 803	Sat 06/23/18 12:10 PM
Have a link to that citation? In other news: It's a sun shiny day. https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/06/23/atlanta-mayor-keisha-lance-bottoms-ice-detainees-jail-turn-away-nr.cnn/video/playlists/top-news-videos/ Atlanta mayor closes jails to ICE detainees Atlanta Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms signed an executive order directing the city's jails to not take in ICE detainees from federal immigration authorities.

Toodygirl5 Joined Fri 10/26/12 Posts: 15055	Sat 06/23/18 12:14 PM
It is not about if illegals committed crimes after they got into US. They are already criminals for crossing over without legal papers. Children born here to illegal parents should be sent back with parents.

Viper1j Joined Tue 12/04/12 Posts: 803	Sat 06/23/18 12:18 PM
It is not about if illegals committed crimes after they got into US. They are already criminals for crossing over without legal papers. Children born here to illegal parents should be sent back with parents. Good luck repealing the 14th amendment to the Constitution of the United States. It's not impossible, all you have to do, is get 75% of the states to agree with you. Of course, if you succeed, then you put your children and grandchildren at risk of losing their citizenship as well.

eric22t Joined Wed 08/13/14 Posts: 27928	Sat 06/23/18 12:22 PM
Have a link to that citation? In other news: It's a sun shiny day. https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/06/23/atlanta-mayor-keisha-lance-bottoms-ice-detainees-jail-turn-away-nr.cnn/video/playlists/top-news-videos/ Atlanta mayor closes jails to ICE detainees Atlanta Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms signed an executive order directing the city's jails to not take in ICE detainees from federal immigration authorities. same source as the link i gave you in the post above viper.

eric22t Joined Wed 08/13/14 Posts: 27928	Sat 06/23/18 12:23 PM
It is not about if illegals committed crimes after they got into US. They are already criminals for crossing over without legal papers. Children born here to illegal parents should be sent back with parents. Good luck repealing the 14th amendment to the Constitution of the United States. It's not impossible, all you have to do, is get 75% of the states to agree with you. Of course, if you succeed, then you put your children and grandchildren at risk of losing their citizenship as well. and again simply being born here is not instant citizenship according to the 14th.