Ms.Harmony,

you must explain this,Im not following .

Trust and relevance, you would keep a cook regardless of fidelity or babysitter?

I dont get it?

I didn't understand that either.
I did say "if you're wife or husband was a good cook "but was unfaithful would you keep them?

I got that part, I was just a little confused by Ms.Harmony's response.

Oh, you'll gonna have to get used to that

okay. maybe if we take out the negative it can be clearer.

I dont hire a cook for how well they clean, or a cleaner for how well they cook, or marry a man for how well he cooks OR cleans

a persons strengths (and weaknesses) need to be relevant to the strengths required for the job. a CEO needs good business sense, whether he is a terrible husband or not. A good POTUS needs, IMHO, experience and civic service, whether he is a good husband or not.

All these different roles in our life require different skillsets and most people compartmentalize their strengths and weaknesses to adjust to the situation as needed.

Ms.Harmony,

okay , I see where you're going with this now

I agree mostly what you say, where I disagree is criteria for POTUS.

there is no set criteria for POTUS, every other position one can go to school, get experience and depending on the person skill, ambition etc some succeeds some don't.

POTUS is totally different, only 44 men have been President, each with their unique backgrounds, skill and Talents.

you believe that Civic service and experience is the key? I beg to differ.

of the 44 men who were president

26 were lawyers

9 of them Military Generals including George Washington.

5 presidents had no public sector experience including Trump, and he is joined by Ulysses.S.Grant, Zachary Taylor and Eisenhower , and including George Washington

8 of them Cabinet secretaries


Do you think Gerald Ford was a good President, he had the experience, do you think LBJ was a good president he had plenty of experience, so did Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, heck George W.Bush was a sitting governor when he decided to run and we all know how his presidency was.


POTUS is a unique position nothing can prepare you for it, experience or not and as history has showed us they come from different backgrounds and different experiences.

civic engagement: Civic engagement or civic participation, according to the American Psychological Association, is "individual and collective actions designed to identify and address issues of public concern". It can be defined as citizens working together to make a change or difference in the community.


For me, the position of POTUS is the TOP position in government which represents the largest community of THE PEOPLE.

For me, I look for evidence of experience and interest in representing THE PEOPLE elsewhere through civic service which would include MILITARY and any other position with state or federal policy making structures.

ALL presidents have at least had this but Trump.

The experience of knowing and having experience within any type of work structure, including government, for me, is a prerequisite to jumping to the top of that structure.


It is not a guarantee of anything, anymore than a degree guarantees the type of worker one will get, but it is a minimum expectation whatever the position, before someone jumps to the top of the chain.

ahhhhhhh Ms.Harmony,

I knew that was coming, Lol
good thing I anticipated that. You are saying that POTUS candidates should have public sector experience whether its municipal , state or federal or Military .

And Trump has no political or military experience so that alone disqualifies him for the top job.

Here is the problem with that thinking, America has been ruined by Career politicians, Obama was elected as the hope and change guy a young new fresh take on american politics and after 8 years it was more of the same.

The american public got tired of it and elected a dirtbag with no political experience and an washington outsider.

Trump is that guy, most people are tired of career politicians with their smooth manufactured talk and B.S.

Now I will admit Trump has gone too far on somethings but look at Trump for a second,he was elected because he is a pragmatist, much like Bill Clinton back in 1992.

mr.Deal maker, but he is finding out that congress has the power, and he believed he was the guy to make deals.

But we didn't vote for Trump to make deals with democrats, we voted him in to clean up Washington , set some policies so America can prosper again.

he has done some good things, only if he stops tweeting .

I just hope his ego is checked at the door when dealing with Kim Jung un and see the little porky dictator as he truly is, and not be taken advantage of as Kim Jong Un's father did with Clinton , Bush and Obama.

yeah Clinton,Bush and Obama's experience really worked there.
Maybe its time for a new approach a man with no political experience but leadership experience.

You cannot build a successful real estate business particularly in New York by being a nice guy, because they will eat you alive.

I rather have a prick for a president that foreign countries are afraid he might snap like they feared with Reagan than someone like Obama who comes across as a nice guy, smooth talker and a Professor.

Putin tested him, China's Hu Jintao and Xi Jinping tested him among other countries and look at ISIS/ISIL.

Obama in 8 years couldn't set up a meeting with the little porky dictator and in one year in office Trump did.

Because they see how much he is under attack and he Trump isn't wavering one bit, so they see him as a strong leader who might snap at anytime.

Trump isn't stupid and he is playing the media and leftist perfectly, you all believing he is unstable and such and people underestimate him and the next thing you he has one over on you.

Good strategy , Sun Tzu would be proud.

The point is that if all politicians have been in civic service, it can be argued that both the BEST and the worst have had that minimum experience. so even if we use our personal perspectives to nitpick the ones that were not good, we have many more that were. Meaning a minimum expectation is not a guarantee of success OR failure.

but still, for me, I wouldnt put anyone at the top of a sector or industry who has no experience in that industry. Real estate involves having the money and having almost dictator privilege in choices of who to work with and what work to do because so much of the risk is your own. That is a totally different structure than government that MANDATES you work with others you dont get to pick on issues you must come to CONSENSUS in.

We have not in my lifetime, had a period where we didnt have enemies or werent engaged or assisting in wars or sanctions around the world. but when it comes down to progress here at home, I still will always prefer someone who has had experience in how that progress is made within the structure of policy making for an entire COUNTRY, and the boundaries of the Constitution, in areas from economy to education to healthcare and national security, etc, etc, etc

and not just one specialized interest like real estate.

I do disagree with the point that Trump is the reason for that summit.
I will solely credit that to the two Korean leaders themselves.
Nothing to do with Trump or his rhetorics.

VonSchulten

I didn't say Trump was the reason for the summit, I said I hope Trump's ego doesn't get in the way because he wants the credit and I hope he is smart enough not to get duped by the little porky dictator like how he duped Obama, and how his Father Kim Jong Il duped Obama, Bush and Clinton.

I did say that in one year in office Trump and Jung un managed to get a meeting vs 8 years of Obama's reign.

I sure hope you're right, but we both know that he will take the credit if things goes right.
That was exactly what pissed Kim off some days ago concerning Trump taking the credit for the summit to start with.
People forget that at the exact time during Trump's worst rhetorics against Kim, was the exact same time that he shot off more and more missiles. the more Trump belittled him the more missiles he launched, only to get him so far as to having achieved reaching mainland US.
Would NK and Kim have escalated the program to those extremes and reached that far in such a short time span if Trump didn't use that rhetorics?
I don't really think so.

VonSchulten

yeah, I know you're right, and that is the problem when you have a leader who is narcissistic, I assume that is how Trump does business,I mean he has to be a prick in business because new york is a tough place and not for the mild and meek.

I just hope and fingers cross that Trump doesn't pooch screw it or get suckered in.

As much as Im not crazy about Trump, I rather have him there vs HiLIARy anytime.

Only thing you missed, was that whole alien an@l probe thing.

Need a new tinfoil hat?

My Attorney Got Arrested.

I like to know why isnt Stormy the idiot porn star not indicted for extortion?

probably because it seems like more of a 'settlement' as long as noone can prove threats or force were used to obtain it....

I wouldnt believe a damn thing that Stormy says.

Because, they want to her! (DOH)

If I offer you $1000 to get off this site and go back to school, should you be indicted for extortion?

She's getting just what she wanted attention look at all this

I say if you offer me $1,000.00 to get off this site, you either have more money than brains or you're a stormy fan.

send the $1,000.00 to this site

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