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I’ve just read an article about the stages of love which are infatuation, landing, burying, resurfacing then ultimately love. I am just wondering if we should go through all these just to find out true love or if there are any couples who skipped the stages or had like a short cut? Why is it...That people try to make things that are simple, complex? I think its safe to say that the opposite of Love is to Despise, right? Think about when you Despise something. Before you despise it, do you make a fulfillment list before hand? I don't. It just happens. Likewise, Love just happens. Why then would you make a fulfillment list for Love? Is love somehow more complicated than repulsion? Not really. They are both based on emotions in opposite ways but still based on emotional states. People love others that are bad for them. People love others that are good for them. Basically, People love others. People despise others that are bad for them. People despise others that are good for them. Basically, People despise others. There is no sequence of events that lead to love. You have experience and wisdom that might dictate your actions but they don't guarantee love. Using someone else's experience and wisdom to experience love is like trying to use a recipe for clam chowder to hook up your stereo. Hello Tom don’t you think a beginning an d an end is kinda like a sequence already? And so what’s in between is what makes our experiences different? There are many recipes for clam chowder I suppose you know a good one can I have a copy blessings to you Tom For me, the sequence of love is always hindsight. Love can happen no matter the order of events. Sometimes it happens despite the disorder of events. You can follow a recipe for getting laid. But, Love is not just getting laid. You can follow a recipe for finding a companion. But, Love is not just finding a companion. Love is that simple feeling you have inside towards someone else. There is nothing you can do to make someone else love you. There is no sequence of events, it just happens. Think about someone you love. Its easy to list the things they say and do and how they are with you that makes you feel love for them. Now, think about before you felt that love. Did you go thru a procedure to get to the point that you felt love for them? Or, did it just happen? There are basic requirements to feeling love for another but they are not a sequence of events you tick off like a checklist. You have to meet them. You have to see them functioning. You have to identify with them in some way. That kind of stuff. Thanks Tom surely you did something to the person who falls in love with you? Not talking about witchcraft or anything but maybe a smile or a gaze started something just like everything has to end too. I agree there is no consistent pattern for anyone sometimes we even go through dislike before liking , but to have a basis of how we are in a relationship don’t you think it’s good or easier to have like a relationship map so two people both reach where they would want to go? Simple good feelings for someone can’t be defined as love already. I know I’m complicated lol |
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It was simpler 'back in the day'. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxj--MkqACY Eddie Cochran - Three Steps to Heaven 1960 I know right |
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Seriously though, everyone is different. I swear when I met my husband, it was as if we already knew each other. We skimmed right through most of the question marks and were almost an instant couple. Men I dated before him, I experienced an even more expansive series of stages than those your article talks of. Who knows why that is the case. Seriously...who knows? Hi Jan does your husband have a single brother or cousin ? Lol . I think the burying bit is more related to the stages of grief which we all experience too at one point or another. I just wish to experience one true and lasting love,the till death do us part kinda love and then and only then shall my skepticism end I am so inspired by you I was just having a laugh. I knew what you meant. It’s very sweet of you to say, but I think I just got lucky. And maybe I’ll be lucky again one day. I am so sure you will be lucky again Jan but not as lucky as the person who will find your beautiful heart ok now gimme some of that luck |
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Seriously though, everyone is different. I swear when I met my husband, it was as if we already knew each other. We skimmed right through most of the question marks and were almost an instant couple. Men I dated before him, I experienced an even more expansive series of stages than those your article talks of. Who knows why that is the case. Seriously...who knows? Hi Jan does your husband have a single brother or cousin ? Lol . I think the burying bit is more related to the stages of grief which we all experience too at one point or another. I just wish to experience one true and lasting love,the till death do us part kinda love and then and only then shall my skepticism end I am so inspired by you I was just having a laugh. I knew what you meant. It’s very sweet of you to say, but I think I just got lucky. And maybe I’ll be lucky again one day. I am so sure you will be lucky again Jan but not as lucky as the person who will find your beautiful heart ok now gimme some of that luck Oh yeah, luck truely plays a big role too since one has to be at the right place at right time to meet the person under the right circumstances and also say the right things to that right person in the right way to elicit the right response and be able to continue on the right path to the right "together forever". THE PERFECT LOVE LIFE (How l wish l call my Mathematics teacher to help with that elusive perfect formular for it). Great discussion; l have read the various comments and learnt a lot. Thank you all for sharing your very interesting thoughts and ideas. Nice topic @ scepticsoulmate I wish us all a great weekend and plenty of luck as we continue to seek our individual unique answers to this very simple but extremely complex basic human need. |
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I’ve just read an article about the stages of love which are infatuation, landing, burying, resurfacing then ultimately love. I am just wondering if we should go through all these just to find out true love or if there are any couples who skipped the stages or had like a short cut? Why is it...That people try to make things that are simple, complex? I think its safe to say that the opposite of Love is to Despise, right? Think about when you Despise something. Before you despise it, do you make a fulfillment list before hand? I don't. It just happens. Likewise, Love just happens. Why then would you make a fulfillment list for Love? Is love somehow more complicated than repulsion? Not really. They are both based on emotions in opposite ways but still based on emotional states. People love others that are bad for them. People love others that are good for them. Basically, People love others. People despise others that are bad for them. People despise others that are good for them. Basically, People despise others. There is no sequence of events that lead to love. You have experience and wisdom that might dictate your actions but they don't guarantee love. Using someone else's experience and wisdom to experience love is like trying to use a recipe for clam chowder to hook up your stereo. Hello Tom don’t you think a beginning an d an end is kinda like a sequence already? And so what’s in between is what makes our experiences different? There are many recipes for clam chowder I suppose you know a good one can I have a copy blessings to you Tom For me, the sequence of love is always hindsight. Love can happen no matter the order of events. Sometimes it happens despite the disorder of events. You can follow a recipe for getting laid. But, Love is not just getting laid. You can follow a recipe for finding a companion. But, Love is not just finding a companion. Love is that simple feeling you have inside towards someone else. There is nothing you can do to make someone else love you. There is no sequence of events, it just happens. Think about someone you love. Its easy to list the things they say and do and how they are with you that makes you feel love for them. Now, think about before you felt that love. Did you go thru a procedure to get to the point that you felt love for them? Or, did it just happen? There are basic requirements to feeling love for another but they are not a sequence of events you tick off like a checklist. You have to meet them. You have to see them functioning. You have to identify with them in some way. That kind of stuff. Thanks Tom surely you did something to the person who falls in love with you? Not talking about witchcraft or anything but maybe a smile or a gaze started something just like everything has to end too. I agree there is no consistent pattern for anyone sometimes we even go through dislike before liking , but to have a basis of how we are in a relationship don’t you think it’s good or easier to have like a relationship map so two people both reach where they would want to go? Simple good feelings for someone can’t be defined as love already. I know I’m complicated lol LOL, A relationship map! Tell me, Which two relationships did you have that were the same? A map establishes a pattern that stays the same for the most part. One map does not fit any location except the one it is created to represent. Try to navigate Los Angeles, California with a map of Athens Greece. How's that working out for ya? Please don't misunderstand me, I'm not belittling you or being rude, I'm just pointing out simple reasoning. If you need a relationship map to feel contentment in your quest to find love, go for it. Personally, I don't try to assign my personal feelings and emotional states to anything or anyone. They're mine. They always have been and always will be. I know I am able to feel love. I also know that others are able to feel love. I'm looking for that one woman that feels love for me as much as I feel love for her. I have to pay attention to every possible one that meets my desires. I also have to understand that everyone is different and most do not qualify for that two-way love connection. Its not my fault and it certainly isn't theirs if we don't align. There are conditions I look for in a woman based on my own desires. In a sense, they are my guide. But its not her that fulfills those conditions, it is I that accepts them. |
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Farting on the second date...major shortcut. |
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Eh. I am more of a simpler dude. Here are the stages as Goof sees them. 1. I like you. You like me. We date. 2. We kiss and it is awesome! We date some more. 3. We kiss some more, you bake me a cake and it's awesome, we date some more. 4. We do the deed....yes that means I see you naked and you see me naked...and it is awesome! We date and sex it up some more. Plus you keep baking me all kinds of baked goods. And I help maintain your vehicle and apartments cause chicks dig guys who can handle tools. 5. We have dated for awhile and it is official.....we just can't see ourselves without each other. You love me, I love you.....you hate me sometimes...sometimes I hate you....you get mad when I won't take the garbage out....I get mad at you cause you won't shut up talking while the game is on.....it's pure bliss and hell......it's love. The end. Can’t get more simpler than that most of your stages though has the kissing bit the baking is a must too? Well kissing is pretty awesome....if done correctly. |
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I don’t think I’ve gone through these stages.
I knew I was doing something wrong! |
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Seriously though, everyone is different. I swear when I met my husband, it was as if we already knew each other. We skimmed right through most of the question marks and were almost an instant couple. Men I dated before him, I experienced an even more expansive series of stages than those your article talks of. Who knows why that is the case. Seriously...who knows? Hi Jan does your husband have a single brother or cousin ? Lol . I think the burying bit is more related to the stages of grief which we all experience too at one point or another. I just wish to experience one true and lasting love,the till death do us part kinda love and then and only then shall my skepticism end I am so inspired by you I was just having a laugh. I knew what you meant. It’s very sweet of you to say, but I think I just got lucky. And maybe I’ll be lucky again one day. I am so sure you will be lucky again Jan but not as lucky as the person who will find your beautiful heart ok now gimme some of that luck Oh yeah, luck truely plays a big role too since one has to be at the right place at right time to meet the person under the right circumstances and also say the right things to that right person in the right way to elicit the right response and be able to continue on the right path to the right "together forever". THE PERFECT LOVE LIFE (How l wish l call my Mathematics teacher to help with that elusive perfect formular for it). Great discussion; l have read the various comments and learnt a lot. Thank you all for sharing your very interesting thoughts and ideas. Nice topic @ scepticsoulmate I wish us all a great weekend and plenty of luck as we continue to seek our individual unique answers to this very simple but extremely complex basic human need. Thanks Evans I appreciate your thoughts and your understanding of what I was trying to ask. Here’s wishing you luck too hey if you get a hold of your math teacher share the formula ok |
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I’ve just read an article about the stages of love which are infatuation, landing, burying, resurfacing then ultimately love. I am just wondering if we should go through all these just to find out true love or if there are any couples who skipped the stages or had like a short cut? Why is it...That people try to make things that are simple, complex? I think its safe to say that the opposite of Love is to Despise, right? Think about when you Despise something. Before you despise it, do you make a fulfillment list before hand? I don't. It just happens. Likewise, Love just happens. Why then would you make a fulfillment list for Love? Is love somehow more complicated than repulsion? Not really. They are both based on emotions in opposite ways but still based on emotional states. People love others that are bad for them. People love others that are good for them. Basically, People love others. People despise others that are bad for them. People despise others that are good for them. Basically, People despise others. There is no sequence of events that lead to love. You have experience and wisdom that might dictate your actions but they don't guarantee love. Using someone else's experience and wisdom to experience love is like trying to use a recipe for clam chowder to hook up your stereo. Hello Tom don’t you think a beginning an d an end is kinda like a sequence already? And so what’s in between is what makes our experiences different? There are many recipes for clam chowder I suppose you know a good one can I have a copy blessings to you Tom For me, the sequence of love is always hindsight. Love can happen no matter the order of events. Sometimes it happens despite the disorder of events. You can follow a recipe for getting laid. But, Love is not just getting laid. You can follow a recipe for finding a companion. But, Love is not just finding a companion. Love is that simple feeling you have inside towards someone else. There is nothing you can do to make someone else love you. There is no sequence of events, it just happens. Think about someone you love. Its easy to list the things they say and do and how they are with you that makes you feel love for them. Now, think about before you felt that love. Did you go thru a procedure to get to the point that you felt love for them? Or, did it just happen? There are basic requirements to feeling love for another but they are not a sequence of events you tick off like a checklist. You have to meet them. You have to see them functioning. You have to identify with them in some way. That kind of stuff. Thanks Tom surely you did something to the person who falls in love with you? Not talking about witchcraft or anything but maybe a smile or a gaze started something just like everything has to end too. I agree there is no consistent pattern for anyone sometimes we even go through dislike before liking , but to have a basis of how we are in a relationship don’t you think it’s good or easier to have like a relationship map so two people both reach where they would want to go? Simple good feelings for someone can’t be defined as love already. I know I’m complicated lol LOL, A relationship map! Tell me, Which two relationships did you have that were the same? A map establishes a pattern that stays the same for the most part. One map does not fit any location except the one it is created to represent. Try to navigate Los Angeles, California with a map of Athens Greece. How's that working out for ya? Please don't misunderstand me, I'm not belittling you or being rude, I'm just pointing out simple reasoning. If you need a relationship map to feel contentment in your quest to find love, go for it. Personally, I don't try to assign my personal feelings and emotional states to anything or anyone. They're mine. They always have been and always will be. I know I am able to feel love. I also know that others are able to feel love. I'm looking for that one woman that feels love for me as much as I feel love for her. I have to pay attention to every possible one that meets my desires. I also have to understand that everyone is different and most do not qualify for that two-way love connection. Its not my fault and it certainly isn't theirs if we don't align. There are conditions I look for in a woman based on my own desires. In a sense, they are my guide. But its not her that fulfills those conditions, it is I that accepts them. Thanks Tom I do understand what you mean about our own feelings and that not two relationships are the same . I don’t feel insulted in any way. I am not afraid to ask if I don’t understand matters and I won’t pretend to know something I don’t really have the knowledge of so no worries. It’s just that when we are in a relationship isn’t it ideal for both parties to have the same or if not a very close kind of attachment/love for each other? If so how can we gauge that both are on the same page or looking ahead towards the same goal? I know how I feel but if I don’t have a clue or parameter as to what stage my relationship is I think it is doomed to end? I hope I’m making sense and if you think you’ve answered this already please just ignore me ok thanks Tom and blessings to you. |
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Eh. I am more of a simpler dude. Here are the stages as Goof sees them. 1. I like you. You like me. We date. 2. We kiss and it is awesome! We date some more. 3. We kiss some more, you bake me a cake and it's awesome, we date some more. 4. We do the deed....yes that means I see you naked and you see me naked...and it is awesome! We date and sex it up some more. Plus you keep baking me all kinds of baked goods. And I help maintain your vehicle and apartments cause chicks dig guys who can handle tools. 5. We have dated for awhile and it is official.....we just can't see ourselves without each other. You love me, I love you.....you hate me sometimes...sometimes I hate you....you get mad when I won't take the garbage out....I get mad at you cause you won't shut up talking while the game is on.....it's pure bliss and hell......it's love. The end. Can’t get more simpler than that most of your stages though has the kissing bit the baking is a must too? Well kissing is pretty awesome....if done correctly. Yes kissing would go through several stages too and developments before we can call it awesome right? If no, then a good kisser is always a good kisser regardless of the partner?what do you think ? |
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I don’t think I’ve gone through these stages. I knew I was doing something wrong! You are not alone lol |
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I’ve just read an article about the stages of love which are infatuation, landing, burying, resurfacing then ultimately love. I am just wondering if we should go through all these just to find out true love or if there are any couples who skipped the stages or had like a short cut? Not so much skip, but the following order was totally different. When we met we had an instant deep connection and relationship feelings. We knew each other on a deep level, as if we'd known one another forever. But in a more earthly sense we still had to get to know each other. Find out how the other does things, reacts to things and so on. Kind of like starting where you normally want to end up, then having to work your way back. |
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I’ve just read an article about the stages of love which are infatuation, landing, burying, resurfacing then ultimately love. I am just wondering if we should go through all these just to find out true love or if there are any couples who skipped the stages or had like a short cut? Not so much skip, but the following order was totally different. When we met we had an instant deep connection and relationship feelings. We knew each other on a deep level, as if we'd known one another forever. But in a more earthly sense we still had to get to know each other. Find out how the other does things, reacts to things and so on. Kind of like starting where you normally want to end up, then having to work your way back. This is what I’m curious about . Thanks for sharing crystal so it is possible that some stages we just pass but ultimately have to go through and it’s just the order of events happening that differs for every couple. I always thought a deep connection with someone is basically a strong factor that can make a relationship work but somehow there’s more hard work to be done all with the rest of time |
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I’ve just read an article about the stages of love which are infatuation, landing, burying, resurfacing then ultimately love. I am just wondering if we should go through all these just to find out true love or if there are any couples who skipped the stages or had like a short cut? Why is it...That people try to make things that are simple, complex? I think its safe to say that the opposite of Love is to Despise, right? Think about when you Despise something. Before you despise it, do you make a fulfillment list before hand? I don't. It just happens. Likewise, Love just happens. Why then would you make a fulfillment list for Love? Is love somehow more complicated than repulsion? Not really. They are both based on emotions in opposite ways but still based on emotional states. People love others that are bad for them. People love others that are good for them. Basically, People love others. People despise others that are bad for them. People despise others that are good for them. Basically, People despise others. There is no sequence of events that lead to love. You have experience and wisdom that might dictate your actions but they don't guarantee love. Using someone else's experience and wisdom to experience love is like trying to use a recipe for clam chowder to hook up your stereo. Hello Tom don’t you think a beginning an d an end is kinda like a sequence already? And so what’s in between is what makes our experiences different? There are many recipes for clam chowder I suppose you know a good one can I have a copy blessings to you Tom For me, the sequence of love is always hindsight. Love can happen no matter the order of events. Sometimes it happens despite the disorder of events. You can follow a recipe for getting laid. But, Love is not just getting laid. You can follow a recipe for finding a companion. But, Love is not just finding a companion. Love is that simple feeling you have inside towards someone else. There is nothing you can do to make someone else love you. There is no sequence of events, it just happens. Think about someone you love. Its easy to list the things they say and do and how they are with you that makes you feel love for them. Now, think about before you felt that love. Did you go thru a procedure to get to the point that you felt love for them? Or, did it just happen? There are basic requirements to feeling love for another but they are not a sequence of events you tick off like a checklist. You have to meet them. You have to see them functioning. You have to identify with them in some way. That kind of stuff. Thanks Tom surely you did something to the person who falls in love with you? Not talking about witchcraft or anything but maybe a smile or a gaze started something just like everything has to end too. I agree there is no consistent pattern for anyone sometimes we even go through dislike before liking , but to have a basis of how we are in a relationship don’t you think it’s good or easier to have like a relationship map so two people both reach where they would want to go? Simple good feelings for someone can’t be defined as love already. I know I’m complicated lol LOL, A relationship map! Tell me, Which two relationships did you have that were the same? A map establishes a pattern that stays the same for the most part. One map does not fit any location except the one it is created to represent. Try to navigate Los Angeles, California with a map of Athens Greece. How's that working out for ya? Please don't misunderstand me, I'm not belittling you or being rude, I'm just pointing out simple reasoning. If you need a relationship map to feel contentment in your quest to find love, go for it. Personally, I don't try to assign my personal feelings and emotional states to anything or anyone. They're mine. They always have been and always will be. I know I am able to feel love. I also know that others are able to feel love. I'm looking for that one woman that feels love for me as much as I feel love for her. I have to pay attention to every possible one that meets my desires. I also have to understand that everyone is different and most do not qualify for that two-way love connection. Its not my fault and it certainly isn't theirs if we don't align. There are conditions I look for in a woman based on my own desires. In a sense, they are my guide. But its not her that fulfills those conditions, it is I that accepts them. Thanks Tom I do understand what you mean about our own feelings and that not two relationships are the same . I don’t feel insulted in any way. I am not afraid to ask if I don’t understand matters and I won’t pretend to know something I don’t really have the knowledge of so no worries. It’s just that when we are in a relationship isn’t it ideal for both parties to have the same or if not a very close kind of attachment/love for each other? If so how can we gauge that both are on the same page or looking ahead towards the same goal? I know how I feel but if I don’t have a clue or parameter as to what stage my relationship is I think it is doomed to end? I hope I’m making sense and if you think you’ve answered this already please just ignore me ok thanks Tom and blessings to you. Communication. The best way to understand your partner, lover, date, friend, anyone is with honest communication on a constant basis. We may 'think' we can read their minds but right or wrong, there is no way to know for sure unless we talk. Being 'tuned' to their signals also helps but again, we can never know for sure unless we ask...and they reply honestly. |
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Friendship first, spend lots of time together doing things you both enjoy!
Key to knowing if the man is right for a committed relationship! Imo |
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Everyone is unique in their own way that they relate to the world, and it takes time to adapt to any new relationship (not necessarily a romantic one), just like it does a new sport. I imagine a shortcut could be to be diversified in communication skills, have a rough concept of the big picture, and be very thorough in learning about the specific nature of new people from the start. Basically being a generalist, free.
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I’ve just read an article about the stages of love which are infatuation, landing, burying, resurfacing then ultimately love. I am just wondering if we should go through all these just to find out true love or if there are any couples who skipped the stages or had like a short cut? Why is it...That people try to make things that are simple, complex? I think its safe to say that the opposite of Love is to Despise, right? Think about when you Despise something. Before you despise it, do you make a fulfillment list before hand? I don't. It just happens. Likewise, Love just happens. Why then would you make a fulfillment list for Love? Is love somehow more complicated than repulsion? Not really. They are both based on emotions in opposite ways but still based on emotional states. People love others that are bad for them. People love others that are good for them. Basically, People love others. People despise others that are bad for them. People despise others that are good for them. Basically, People despise others. There is no sequence of events that lead to love. You have experience and wisdom that might dictate your actions but they don't guarantee love. Using someone else's experience and wisdom to experience love is like trying to use a recipe for clam chowder to hook up your stereo. Hello Tom don’t you think a beginning an d an end is kinda like a sequence already? And so what’s in between is what makes our experiences different? There are many recipes for clam chowder I suppose you know a good one can I have a copy blessings to you Tom For me, the sequence of love is always hindsight. Love can happen no matter the order of events. Sometimes it happens despite the disorder of events. You can follow a recipe for getting laid. But, Love is not just getting laid. You can follow a recipe for finding a companion. But, Love is not just finding a companion. Love is that simple feeling you have inside towards someone else. There is nothing you can do to make someone else love you. There is no sequence of events, it just happens. Think about someone you love. Its easy to list the things they say and do and how they are with you that makes you feel love for them. Now, think about before you felt that love. Did you go thru a procedure to get to the point that you felt love for them? Or, did it just happen? There are basic requirements to feeling love for another but they are not a sequence of events you tick off like a checklist. You have to meet them. You have to see them functioning. You have to identify with them in some way. That kind of stuff. Thanks Tom surely you did something to the person who falls in love with you? Not talking about witchcraft or anything but maybe a smile or a gaze started something just like everything has to end too. I agree there is no consistent pattern for anyone sometimes we even go through dislike before liking , but to have a basis of how we are in a relationship don’t you think it’s good or easier to have like a relationship map so two people both reach where they would want to go? Simple good feelings for someone can’t be defined as love already. I know I’m complicated lol LOL, A relationship map! Tell me, Which two relationships did you have that were the same? A map establishes a pattern that stays the same for the most part. One map does not fit any location except the one it is created to represent. Try to navigate Los Angeles, California with a map of Athens Greece. How's that working out for ya? Please don't misunderstand me, I'm not belittling you or being rude, I'm just pointing out simple reasoning. If you need a relationship map to feel contentment in your quest to find love, go for it. Personally, I don't try to assign my personal feelings and emotional states to anything or anyone. They're mine. They always have been and always will be. I know I am able to feel love. I also know that others are able to feel love. I'm looking for that one woman that feels love for me as much as I feel love for her. I have to pay attention to every possible one that meets my desires. I also have to understand that everyone is different and most do not qualify for that two-way love connection. Its not my fault and it certainly isn't theirs if we don't align. There are conditions I look for in a woman based on my own desires. In a sense, they are my guide. But its not her that fulfills those conditions, it is I that accepts them. Thanks Tom I do understand what you mean about our own feelings and that not two relationships are the same . I don’t feel insulted in any way. I am not afraid to ask if I don’t understand matters and I won’t pretend to know something I don’t really have the knowledge of so no worries. It’s just that when we are in a relationship isn’t it ideal for both parties to have the same or if not a very close kind of attachment/love for each other? If so how can we gauge that both are on the same page or looking ahead towards the same goal? I know how I feel but if I don’t have a clue or parameter as to what stage my relationship is I think it is doomed to end? I hope I’m making sense and if you think you’ve answered this already please just ignore me ok thanks Tom and blessings to you. Communication. The best way to understand your partner, lover, date, friend, anyone is with honest communication on a constant basis. We may 'think' we can read their minds but right or wrong, there is no way to know for sure unless we talk. Being 'tuned' to their signals also helps but again, we can never know for sure unless we ask...and they reply honestly. Doesn’t get any clearer than that |
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Friendship first, spend lots of time together doing things you both enjoy! Key to knowing if the man is right for a committed relationship! Imo Friendship between a man and a woman is really possible if there’s no intense physical attraction. Don’t you think so? if a man commits to being a friend then he can surely commit to something else? |
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