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Edited by
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If they refuse to go after the manufacturers, perhaps they should permit liability upon the retailers if they do not do adamant background and health searches before selling these things. Hit pocketbooks, and people start acting on things and stop just talking about them and sending 'prayers'. actually, when it comes to these school shootings, the 'cartel' means nothing. if there is a legal sale, its on the retailer, not the 'cartel' rules and regulations will still matter, to the retailer, and their profit margins. strawman, this is about a teen going into a school and shooting up other teens. This was not a cartel member or an immigrant, so those issues have nothing to do with what is being discussed. This teen bought the gun LEGALLY, from a retailer. Even if the gun was at some point with a cartel, the one who passed it to the TEEN was a retailer, and NOT THE CARTEL. This is not about other people dying from guns, this is about doing something to curb the DEATHS IN SCHOOLS by people who should not have been able to so EASILY acquire the weapons. I am sad that anyone has to die from guns, but yeah, as a parent, you bet your butt Im epecially incensed when KIDS cant simply attend SCHOOL Without fear of being gunned down. |
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Maybe I missed where it said the fbi had proof or a mental health report. What I have read was a youtube posting that was reported but the fbi couldn't id the person. they must be kind of slow then, since they had a screenshot of his comments with his NAME on it Ben Bennight, a bail bondsman in Mississippi who posts video blogs on YouTube, knew something was amiss when someone named Nikolas Cruz posted "I'm going to be a professional school shooter" in the comments section of one of his videos in September, BuzzFeed News reported Thursday. So he urged YouTube to remove the comment and emailed a screenshot of it to the FBI, the report says. http://www.businessinsider.com/fbi-knew-about-nikolas-cruz-youtube-user-before-florida-shooting-2018-2 this was a disturbed teen, not a master mind. I can report anyone too. There has to be proof and a charge |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Maybe I missed where it said the fbi had proof or a mental health report. What I have read was a youtube posting that was reported but the fbi couldn't id the person. they must be kind of slow then, since they had a screenshot of his comments with his NAME on it Ben Bennight, a bail bondsman in Mississippi who posts video blogs on YouTube, knew something was amiss when someone named Nikolas Cruz posted "I'm going to be a professional school shooter" in the comments section of one of his videos in September, BuzzFeed News reported Thursday. So he urged YouTube to remove the comment and emailed a screenshot of it to the FBI, the report says. http://www.businessinsider.com/fbi-knew-about-nikolas-cruz-youtube-user-before-florida-shooting-2018-2 this was a disturbed teen, not a master mind. I can report anyone too. There has to be proof and a charge not really ... it was a SCREENSHOT http://www.wlwt.com/article/emotional-video-of-woman-taking-first-breath-with-new-lungs-goes-viral/18196549 see, all it takes is to RESPOND to the Facebook post, just as they catch pedophiles on the internet, or other criminals, it can lead them to the person planning the crime quite easily ... |
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I believe a lot are home grown. But someone wanting to commit a crime will buy it off a truck or back alley. I prefer to be able to protect myself I prefer that too. But I would prefer those with emotional or mental instability not be able to have access to such tools of potential destruction too. But they can illegally. Timothy McVeigh didn't need guns. Do we ban fertilizer? How about the person running people over in a truck? Do we ban vehicles? People that want to harm will always get guns illegally I am not speaking ban on anything. Im speaking more common sense regulations. will people find ways around them? Sure, some will. But i don't care as long as it decreases the number of lives we lose because it is in place to PROSECUTE and prevent more often. That is already in play...at least for legal gun owners. Not those that steal guns or buy them in a back alley. this boy bought his gun legally, despite all the troubling signs and documented mental health issues, so whatever it is is not playing enough. I don't believe the boy has any mental problem at all. Satan used him to kill innocents people that is all. If he was mentally unstable why won't him kill his family at home and get suicide? Why could he go to high school and killed innocent people? he should be sentence to life jail. I hate to hear saying the person has a mental problem after killing people, that is a pure lie |
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I believe a lot are home grown. But someone wanting to commit a crime will buy it off a truck or back alley. I prefer to be able to protect myself I prefer that too. But I would prefer those with emotional or mental instability not be able to have access to such tools of potential destruction too. But they can illegally. Timothy McVeigh didn't need guns. Do we ban fertilizer? How about the person running people over in a truck? Do we ban vehicles? People that want to harm will always get guns illegally I am not speaking ban on anything. Im speaking more common sense regulations. will people find ways around them? Sure, some will. But i don't care as long as it decreases the number of lives we lose because it is in place to PROSECUTE and prevent more often. That is already in play...at least for legal gun owners. Not those that steal guns or buy them in a back alley. this boy bought his gun legally, despite all the troubling signs and documented mental health issues, so whatever it is is not playing enough. I don't believe the boy has any mental problem at all. Satan used him to kill innocents people that is all. If he was mentally unstable why won't him kill his family at home and get suicide? Why could he go to high school and killed innocent people? he should be sentence to life jail. I hate to hear saying the person has a mental problem after killing people, that is a pure lie his family had already died months earlier ... often people suffering want others to suffer, even if they arent suicidal I consider this, in teens especially, as signs of mental and emotional instability/problem. |
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I believe a lot are home grown. But someone wanting to commit a crime will buy it off a truck or back alley. I prefer to be able to protect myself I prefer that too. But I would prefer those with emotional or mental instability not be able to have access to such tools of potential destruction too. But they can illegally. Timothy McVeigh didn't need guns. Do we ban fertilizer? How about the person running people over in a truck? Do we ban vehicles? People that want to harm will always get guns illegally I am not speaking ban on anything. Im speaking more common sense regulations. will people find ways around them? Sure, some will. But i don't care as long as it decreases the number of lives we lose because it is in place to PROSECUTE and prevent more often. That is already in play...at least for legal gun owners. Not those that steal guns or buy them in a back alley. this boy bought his gun legally, despite all the troubling signs and documented mental health issues, so whatever it is is not playing enough. I don't believe the boy has any mental problem at all. Satan used him to kill innocents people that is all. If he was mentally unstable why won't him kill his family at home and get suicide? Why could he go to high school and killed innocent people? he should be sentence to life jail. I hate to hear saying the person has a mental problem after killing people, that is a pure lie his family had already died months earlier ... often people suffering want others to suffer, even if they arent suicidal I consider this, in teens especially, as signs of mental and emotional instability/problem. Oh! The parents died months earlier and he went out to kill innocent people but he did not kill himself? Life prison for him. he is not mentally sick but posseses of demons |
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I believe a lot are home grown. But someone wanting to commit a crime will buy it off a truck or back alley. I prefer to be able to protect myself I prefer that too. But I would prefer those with emotional or mental instability not be able to have access to such tools of potential destruction too. But they can illegally. Timothy McVeigh didn't need guns. Do we ban fertilizer? How about the person running people over in a truck? Do we ban vehicles? People that want to harm will always get guns illegally I am not speaking ban on anything. Im speaking more common sense regulations. will people find ways around them? Sure, some will. But i don't care as long as it decreases the number of lives we lose because it is in place to PROSECUTE and prevent more often. That is already in play...at least for legal gun owners. Not those that steal guns or buy them in a back alley. this boy bought his gun legally, despite all the troubling signs and documented mental health issues, so whatever it is is not playing enough. I don't believe the boy has any mental problem at all. Satan used him to kill innocents people that is all. If he was mentally unstable why won't him kill his family at home and get suicide? Why could he go to high school and killed innocent people? he should be sentence to life jail. I hate to hear saying the person has a mental problem after killing people, that is a pure lie his family had already died months earlier ... often people suffering want others to suffer, even if they arent suicidal I consider this, in teens especially, as signs of mental and emotional instability/problem. Oh! The parents died months earlier and he went out to kill innocent people but he did not kill himself? Life prison for him. he is not mentally sick but posseses of demons even demons can be exorcised, but rarely in prison. |
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I believe a lot are home grown. But someone wanting to commit a crime will buy it off a truck or back alley. I prefer to be able to protect myself I prefer that too. But I would prefer those with emotional or mental instability not be able to have access to such tools of potential destruction too. But they can illegally. Timothy McVeigh didn't need guns. Do we ban fertilizer? How about the person running people over in a truck? Do we ban vehicles? People that want to harm will always get guns illegally I am not speaking ban on anything. Im speaking more common sense regulations. will people find ways around them? Sure, some will. But i don't care as long as it decreases the number of lives we lose because it is in place to PROSECUTE and prevent more often. That is already in play...at least for legal gun owners. Not those that steal guns or buy them in a back alley. this boy bought his gun legally, despite all the troubling signs and documented mental health issues, so whatever it is is not playing enough. I don't believe the boy has any mental problem at all. Satan used him to kill innocents people that is all. If he was mentally unstable why won't him kill his family at home and get suicide? Why could he go to high school and killed innocent people? he should be sentence to life jail. I hate to hear saying the person has a mental problem after killing people, that is a pure lie his family had already died months earlier ... often people suffering want others to suffer, even if they arent suicidal I consider this, in teens especially, as signs of mental and emotional instability/problem. Oh! The parents died months earlier and he went out to kill innocent people but he did not kill himself? Life prison for him. he is not mentally sick but posseses of demons even demons can be exorcised, but rarely in prison. Exorcised by who? No demon can ever be delivered but the person possesed by it. Well i know there is a death sentence in US but who can kill demon unless the Lord himself? |
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It's a horrifying tragedy every time this happens, whether mental illness is involved or not.
My own family has lost an innocent to senseless gun violence. Because of our own tragedy, I've been having more gun law discussions than I care to think of. But it's a necessary subject. My standard answer to what should be done to control senseless gun violence in my own town of Kansas City, is to look to New York City. New York City, from a population of over 8.5 million, reported only 290 homicides for the year in December of 2017. Kansas City, with a population under 1/2 million, reported 149 homicides in 2017. I don't know the statistics in Parkland, Florida, but it for my own town of Kansas City, I say we need more of whatever New York City has got. |
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I believe a lot are home grown. But someone wanting to commit a crime will buy it off a truck or back alley. I prefer to be able to protect myself I prefer that too. But I would prefer those with emotional or mental instability not be able to have access to such tools of potential destruction too. But they can illegally. Timothy McVeigh didn't need guns. Do we ban fertilizer? How about the person running people over in a truck? Do we ban vehicles? People that want to harm will always get guns illegally I am not speaking ban on anything. Im speaking more common sense regulations. will people find ways around them? Sure, some will. But i don't care as long as it decreases the number of lives we lose because it is in place to PROSECUTE and prevent more often. That is already in play...at least for legal gun owners. Not those that steal guns or buy them in a back alley. this boy bought his gun legally, despite all the troubling signs and documented mental health issues, so whatever it is is not playing enough. I don't believe the boy has any mental problem at all. Satan used him to kill innocents people that is all. If he was mentally unstable why won't him kill his family at home and get suicide? Why could he go to high school and killed innocent people? he should be sentence to life jail. I hate to hear saying the person has a mental problem after killing people, that is a pure lie his family had already died months earlier ... often people suffering want others to suffer, even if they arent suicidal I consider this, in teens especially, as signs of mental and emotional instability/problem. Oh! The parents died months earlier and he went out to kill innocent people but he did not kill himself? Life prison for him. he is not mentally sick but posseses of demons even demons can be exorcised, but rarely in prison. Exorcised by who? No demon can ever be delivered but the person possesed by it. Well i know there is a death sentence in US but who can kill demon unless the Lord himself? Jesus, ask and ye shall receive, certainly this is true for the young ones as well .... |
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It's a horrifying tragedy every time this happens, whether mental illness is involved or not. My own family has lost an innocent to senseless gun violence. Because of our own tragedy, I've been having more gun law discussions than I care to think of. But it's a necessary subject. My standard answer to what should be done to control senseless gun violence in my own town of Kansas City, is to look to New York City. New York City, from a population of over 8.5 million, reported only 290 homicides for the year in December of 2017. Kansas City, with a population under 1/2 million, reported 149 homicides in 2017. I don't know the statistics in Parkland, Florida, but it for my own town of Kansas City, I say we need more of whatever New York City has got. The only solution is to barn the law of buying gun. It can only be used by the police, militry and security guide. Why should a baby carry gun? |
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WHY? aren't our master legislators Like Nancy & Chuck addressing armed guards in schools. Only seems logical. Give veterans a job protecting our children. Could only help. 18 school shootings so far this year. It happening at an alarming rate and it's sad, but I don't see an end to it with the amount of people inhabiting the earth at the rate it's going, and the mindset and mentality of society today. People need to vote for a better cause and those overbaring libtarded ones aren't making things any better in America. |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Thu 02/15/18 02:25 PM
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if we give airtime to undocumented immigrants or welfare programs or muslim terrorism, why not give ample airtime to AMERICAN kids entering schools to shoot up other AMERICAN kids?
I wonder how easy some would blow this off if it had been an undocumented immigrant or a muslim who had done this instead of just another unstable american kid? |
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It's a horrifying tragedy every time this happens, whether mental illness is involved or not. My own family has lost an innocent to senseless gun violence. Because of our own tragedy, I've been having more gun law discussions than I care to think of. But it's a necessary subject. My standard answer to what should be done to control senseless gun violence in my own town of Kansas City, is to look to New York City. New York City, from a population of over 8.5 million, reported only 290 homicides for the year in December of 2017. Kansas City, with a population under 1/2 million, reported 149 homicides in 2017. I don't know the statistics in Parkland, Florida, but it for my own town of Kansas City, I say we need more of whatever New York City has got. The only solution is to barn the law of buying gun. It can only be used by the police, militry and security guide. Why should a baby carry gun? I'll have to respectfully disagree that it's the only solution, or that it's the best solution. I think stricter requirements to legally own will bring the kind of purchases which result in senseless killing way down, while not overly infringing on a citizen's right to protect themselves. I truly believe that a total ban on guns will only drive more people to gain them through illegal means, while leaving law abiding citizens defenseless. |
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It's a horrifying tragedy every time this happens, whether mental illness is involved or not. My own family has lost an innocent to senseless gun violence. Because of our own tragedy, I've been having more gun law discussions than I care to think of. But it's a necessary subject. My standard answer to what should be done to control senseless gun violence in my own town of Kansas City, is to look to New York City. New York City, from a population of over 8.5 million, reported only 290 homicides for the year in December of 2017. Kansas City, with a population under 1/2 million, reported 149 homicides in 2017. I don't know the statistics in Parkland, Florida, but it for my own town of Kansas City, I say we need more of whatever New York City has got. The only solution is to barn the law of buying gun. It can only be used by the police, militry and security guide. Why should a baby carry gun? I'll have to respectfully disagree that it's the only solution, or that it's the best solution. I think stricter requirements to legally own will bring the kind of purchases which result in senseless killing way down, while not overly infringing on a citizen's right to protect themselves. I truly believe that a total ban on guns will only drive more people to gain them through illegal means, while leaving law abiding citizens defenseless. I agree here. I believe both extremes, the side that wants noone with guns and the side that believes everyone should have them, to be illogical. |
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If they refuse to go after the manufacturers, perhaps they should permit liability upon the retailers if they do not do adamant background and health searches before selling these things. Hit pocketbooks, and people start acting on things and stop just talking about them and sending 'prayers'. actually, when it comes to these school shootings, the 'cartel' means nothing. if there is a legal sale, its on the retailer, not the 'cartel' rules and regulations will still matter, to the retailer, and their profit margins. strawman, this is about a teen going into a school and shooting up other teens. This was not a cartel member or an immigrant, so those issues have nothing to do with what is being discussed. This teen bought the gun LEGALLY, from a retailer. Even if the gun was at some point with a cartel, the one who passed it to the TEEN was a retailer, and NOT THE CARTEL. This is not about other people dying from guns, this is about doing something to curb the DEATHS IN SCHOOLS by people who should not have been able to so EASILY acquire the weapons. I am sad that anyone has to die from guns, but yeah, as a parent, you bet your butt Im epecially incensed when KIDS cant simply attend SCHOOL Without fear of being gunned down. |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Thu 02/15/18 03:28 PM
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If they refuse to go after the manufacturers, perhaps they should permit liability upon the retailers if they do not do adamant background and health searches before selling these things. Hit pocketbooks, and people start acting on things and stop just talking about them and sending 'prayers'. actually, when it comes to these school shootings, the 'cartel' means nothing. if there is a legal sale, its on the retailer, not the 'cartel' rules and regulations will still matter, to the retailer, and their profit margins. strawman, this is about a teen going into a school and shooting up other teens. This was not a cartel member or an immigrant, so those issues have nothing to do with what is being discussed. This teen bought the gun LEGALLY, from a retailer. Even if the gun was at some point with a cartel, the one who passed it to the TEEN was a retailer, and NOT THE CARTEL. This is not about other people dying from guns, this is about doing something to curb the DEATHS IN SCHOOLS by people who should not have been able to so EASILY acquire the weapons. I am sad that anyone has to die from guns, but yeah, as a parent, you bet your butt Im epecially incensed when KIDS cant simply attend SCHOOL Without fear of being gunned down. and still, in THIS DISCUSSION on US school shootings, noone is providing a link between holders 'guns' and the ones used. And even if they did, all that matters is that the kid got the gun and who THEY got it from. the sel of a gun, whether it was an illegal or legal gun, LEGALLY becomes the responsibility of the purchaser and retail on that LEGALLY binding purchase. so, yeah, perhaps guns from several years ago in PHOENIX Arizona can be blamed for american kids gunning down others in school, but it doesnt negate that without someone SELLING these guns to these kids DIRECTLY and for profit, they would not have been using them for their crime but keep trying to scapegoat others and make it political as that has worked so well for the families of these kids who did nothing but attend school and get gunned down for it. |
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It's a horrifying tragedy every time this happens, whether mental illness is involved or not. My own family has lost an innocent to senseless gun violence. Because of our own tragedy, I've been having more gun law discussions than I care to think of. But it's a necessary subject. My standard answer to what should be done to control senseless gun violence in my own town of Kansas City, is to look to New York City. New York City, from a population of over 8.5 million, reported only 290 homicides for the year in December of 2017. Kansas City, with a population under 1/2 million, reported 149 homicides in 2017. I don't know the statistics in Parkland, Florida, but it for my own town of Kansas City, I say we need more of whatever New York City has got. The only solution is to barn the law of buying gun. It can only be used by the police, militry and security guide. Why should a baby carry gun? Ha Sis...no let them hear you talk am again.Yanki like gun |
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Even with stricter gun laws (or destroying every gun in the world) criminals will always find a way. Knife, bomb, vehicle, baseball bat, etc.
Criminals can get guns illegally too. That doesn't protect law abiding citizens that use it to hunt or defense |
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Even with stricter gun laws (or destroying every gun in the world) criminals will always find a way. Knife, bomb, vehicle, baseball bat, etc. Criminals can get guns illegally too. That doesn't protect law abiding citizens that use it to hunt or defense this is true of any law really, but never negates the need for having them to decrease the mayhem and chaos of lawlessness all around. Laws make it easier to hold others accountable for breaking them. Without laws there to be broken, accountability becomes moot in the eyes of the law. laws have never been expected to eliminate all crime, just to make it less easy to commit and more easy to prosecute. |
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