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nowadays there's ample 'material' for either side to nitpick about. Stay on topic.. drugs were sold to drug runners, its called a sting, it happens in law enforcement, they often try to defend themselves as being entrapped. It was a decision that is part of his job. Just as it was Oliver Norths under Reagan to do something very similar. sting: a carefully planned operation, typically one involving deception. nothing in the definition mandates an arrest ... |
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nowadays there's ample 'material' for either side to nitpick about. Stay on topic.. drugs were sold to drug runners, its called a sting, it happens in law enforcement, they often try to defend themselves as being entrapped. It was a decision that is part of his job. Just as it was Oliver Norths under Reagan to do something very similar. sting: a carefully planned operation, typically one involving deception. nothing in the definition mandates an arrest ... http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/the-staggering-death-toll-of-mexicos-drug-war/ Another question... How are they going to arrest Mexican citizens in Mexico? |
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nowadays there's ample 'material' for either side to nitpick about. Stay on topic.. drugs were sold to drug runners, its called a sting, it happens in law enforcement, they often try to defend themselves as being entrapped. It was a decision that is part of his job. Just as it was Oliver Norths under Reagan to do something very similar. sting: a carefully planned operation, typically one involving deception. nothing in the definition mandates an arrest ... http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/the-staggering-death-toll-of-mexicos-drug-war/ Another question... How are they going to arrest Mexican citizens in Mexico? the point was that stings do not require arrests, they are done in the HOPES of securing arrest, but do not always end successfully. Im not sure what the rest of the post refers to in Mexico there are roughly 7 gun deaths per 100,000 in USA there are roughly 10 gun deaths per 100,000 The USA makes arrests in the USA for gun crimes The USA does not make arrests in MEXICO for gun crimes The ATF does monitor gun sales in the USA even if they are extending to Mexico. Phoenix and Texas where the gunrunners in question were residing, is in the USA. |
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nowadays there's ample 'material' for either side to nitpick about. Stay on topic.. drugs were sold to drug runners, its called a sting, it happens in law enforcement, they often try to defend themselves as being entrapped. It was a decision that is part of his job. Just as it was Oliver Norths under Reagan to do something very similar. sting: a carefully planned operation, typically one involving deception. nothing in the definition mandates an arrest ... http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/the-staggering-death-toll-of-mexicos-drug-war/ Another question... How are they going to arrest Mexican citizens in Mexico? the point was that stings do not require arrests, they are done in the HOPES of securing arrest, but do not always end successfully. Im not sure what the rest of the post refers to in Mexico there are roughly 7 gun deaths per 100,000 in USA there are roughly 10 gun deaths per 100,000 The USA makes arrests in the USA for gun crimes The USA does not make arrests in MEXICO for gun crimes The ATF does monitor gun sales in the USA even if they are extending to Mexico. Phoenix and Texas where the gunrunners in question were residing, is in the USA. |
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Over the course of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, the number of civilian deaths has been staggering. In Afghanistan, more than 26,000 civilians are estimated to have died since the war began in 2001. In Iraq, conservative tallies place the number of civilians killed at roughly 160,500 since the U.S. invasion in 2003. Others have put the total closer to 500,000.
But as U.S. involvement in each nation has dropped off in recent years, killings much closer to home, in Mexico, have steadily, if quietly, outpaced the number of civilian deaths in Afghanistan and Iraq combined. Last week, the Mexican government released new data showing that between 2007 and 2014 — a period that accounts for some of the bloodiest years of the nation’s war against the drug cartels — more than 164,000 people were victims of homicide. Nearly 20,000 died last year alone, a substantial number, but still a decrease from the 27,000 killed at the peak of fighting in 2011. Over the same seven-year period, slightly more than 103,000 died in Afghanistan and Iraq, according to data from the United Nations and the website Iraq Body Count. To be sure, the homicides documented in Mexico cannot all be linked directly to the drug war, and distinguishing drug-war violence from the raw totals can be fraught with challenges. Many murders are never investigated, and the Mexican government has not issued annual figures on organized-crime-style homicides — those believed to be the work of cartels — since 2010. Even when it did, such data was often knocked for being untrustworthy. Some counts have blamed the drug war for as much as 55 percent of all homicides. Others have put the estimate as low as 34 percent. Yet those figures have likewise been criticized as unreliable. For example, someone killed by a high-caliber or automatic firearm would be counted as a victim of organized crime, but if they were strangled or stabbed to death, they would not necessarily be considered a casualty of the drug war. “In any of this data, a lot of dead people are not counted,” said Molly Molloy, a border and Latin American specialist at New Mexico State University. Molloy has focused her research on counting the dead in Mexico, and in an interview with FRONTLINE said, “The violence engendered by the system as a whole in Mexico is so huge and affects so many people in various violent ways, I think you have to look at the murders as a whole, because how are you going to separate them?” Whatever the true number, organized-crime-style killings continue to represent a substantial and lingering threat throughout Mexico. That danger was only underscored this month with the prison escape of Joaquín Guzmán Loera, the drug kingpin known as “El Chapo” (Shorty) who is widely considered among the most responsible for the violence there. |
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Holder didn't do anything others before him didn't also do, others who would still have had the support of their supporters. Scandals can be made of anything when people are not held to consistency or facts. |
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Over the course of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, the number of civilian deaths has been staggering. In Afghanistan, more than 26,000 civilians are estimated to have died since the war began in 2001. In Iraq, conservative tallies place the number of civilians killed at roughly 160,500 since the U.S. invasion in 2003. Others have put the total closer to 500,000. But as U.S. involvement in each nation has dropped off in recent years, killings much closer to home, in Mexico, have steadily, if quietly, outpaced the number of civilian deaths in Afghanistan and Iraq combined. Last week, the Mexican government released new data showing that between 2007 and 2014 — a period that accounts for some of the bloodiest years of the nation’s war against the drug cartels — more than 164,000 people were victims of homicide. Nearly 20,000 died last year alone, a substantial number, but still a decrease from the 27,000 killed at the peak of fighting in 2011. Over the same seven-year period, slightly more than 103,000 died in Afghanistan and Iraq, according to data from the United Nations and the website Iraq Body Count. To be sure, the homicides documented in Mexico cannot all be linked directly to the drug war, and distinguishing drug-war violence from the raw totals can be fraught with challenges. Many murders are never investigated, and the Mexican government has not issued annual figures on organized-crime-style homicides — those believed to be the work of cartels — since 2010. Even when it did, such data was often knocked for being untrustworthy. Some counts have blamed the drug war for as much as 55 percent of all homicides. Others have put the estimate as low as 34 percent. Yet those figures have likewise been criticized as unreliable. For example, someone killed by a high-caliber or automatic firearm would be counted as a victim of organized crime, but if they were strangled or stabbed to death, they would not necessarily be considered a casualty of the drug war. “In any of this data, a lot of dead people are not counted,” said Molly Molloy, a border and Latin American specialist at New Mexico State University. Molloy has focused her research on counting the dead in Mexico, and in an interview with FRONTLINE said, “The violence engendered by the system as a whole in Mexico is so huge and affects so many people in various violent ways, I think you have to look at the murders as a whole, because how are you going to separate them?” Whatever the true number, organized-crime-style killings continue to represent a substantial and lingering threat throughout Mexico. That danger was only underscored this month with the prison escape of Joaquín Guzmán Loera, the drug kingpin known as “El Chapo” (Shorty) who is widely considered among the most responsible for the violence there. What does this information have to do with Holder or his role in cartels IN AMERICA? |
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Holder didn't do anything others before him didn't also do, others who would still have had the support of their supporters. Scandals can be made of anything when people are not held to consistency or facts. I wouldnt give democrats a monopoly on plans that went wrong. Remember Iran-Contra? |
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Over the course of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, the number of civilian deaths has been staggering. In Afghanistan, more than 26,000 civilians are estimated to have died since the war began in 2001. In Iraq, conservative tallies place the number of civilians killed at roughly 160,500 since the U.S. invasion in 2003. Others have put the total closer to 500,000. But as U.S. involvement in each nation has dropped off in recent years, killings much closer to home, in Mexico, have steadily, if quietly, outpaced the number of civilian deaths in Afghanistan and Iraq combined. Last week, the Mexican government released new data showing that between 2007 and 2014 — a period that accounts for some of the bloodiest years of the nation’s war against the drug cartels — more than 164,000 people were victims of homicide. Nearly 20,000 died last year alone, a substantial number, but still a decrease from the 27,000 killed at the peak of fighting in 2011. Over the same seven-year period, slightly more than 103,000 died in Afghanistan and Iraq, according to data from the United Nations and the website Iraq Body Count. To be sure, the homicides documented in Mexico cannot all be linked directly to the drug war, and distinguishing drug-war violence from the raw totals can be fraught with challenges. Many murders are never investigated, and the Mexican government has not issued annual figures on organized-crime-style homicides — those believed to be the work of cartels — since 2010. Even when it did, such data was often knocked for being untrustworthy. Some counts have blamed the drug war for as much as 55 percent of all homicides. Others have put the estimate as low as 34 percent. Yet those figures have likewise been criticized as unreliable. For example, someone killed by a high-caliber or automatic firearm would be counted as a victim of organized crime, but if they were strangled or stabbed to death, they would not necessarily be considered a casualty of the drug war. “In any of this data, a lot of dead people are not counted,” said Molly Molloy, a border and Latin American specialist at New Mexico State University. Molloy has focused her research on counting the dead in Mexico, and in an interview with FRONTLINE said, “The violence engendered by the system as a whole in Mexico is so huge and affects so many people in various violent ways, I think you have to look at the murders as a whole, because how are you going to separate them?” Whatever the true number, organized-crime-style killings continue to represent a substantial and lingering threat throughout Mexico. That danger was only underscored this month with the prison escape of Joaquín Guzmán Loera, the drug kingpin known as “El Chapo” (Shorty) who is widely considered among the most responsible for the violence there. What does this information have to do with Holder or his role in cartels IN AMERICA? |
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lol, thats rich, but fine.
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Over the course of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, the number of civilian deaths has been staggering. In Afghanistan, more than 26,000 civilians are estimated to have died since the war began in 2001. In Iraq, conservative tallies place the number of civilians killed at roughly 160,500 since the U.S. invasion in 2003. Others have put the total closer to 500,000. But as U.S. involvement in each nation has dropped off in recent years, killings much closer to home, in Mexico, have steadily, if quietly, outpaced the number of civilian deaths in Afghanistan and Iraq combined. Last week, the Mexican government released new data showing that between 2007 and 2014 — a period that accounts for some of the bloodiest years of the nation’s war against the drug cartels — more than 164,000 people were victims of homicide. Nearly 20,000 died last year alone, a substantial number, but still a decrease from the 27,000 killed at the peak of fighting in 2011. Over the same seven-year period, slightly more than 103,000 died in Afghanistan and Iraq, according to data from the United Nations and the website Iraq Body Count. To be sure, the homicides documented in Mexico cannot all be linked directly to the drug war, and distinguishing drug-war violence from the raw totals can be fraught with challenges. Many murders are never investigated, and the Mexican government has not issued annual figures on organized-crime-style homicides — those believed to be the work of cartels — since 2010. Even when it did, such data was often knocked for being untrustworthy. Some counts have blamed the drug war for as much as 55 percent of all homicides. Others have put the estimate as low as 34 percent. Yet those figures have likewise been criticized as unreliable. For example, someone killed by a high-caliber or automatic firearm would be counted as a victim of organized crime, but if they were strangled or stabbed to death, they would not necessarily be considered a casualty of the drug war. “In any of this data, a lot of dead people are not counted,” said Molly Molloy, a border and Latin American specialist at New Mexico State University. Molloy has focused her research on counting the dead in Mexico, and in an interview with FRONTLINE said, “The violence engendered by the system as a whole in Mexico is so huge and affects so many people in various violent ways, I think you have to look at the murders as a whole, because how are you going to separate them?” Whatever the true number, organized-crime-style killings continue to represent a substantial and lingering threat throughout Mexico. That danger was only underscored this month with the prison escape of Joaquín Guzmán Loera, the drug kingpin known as “El Chapo” (Shorty) who is widely considered among the most responsible for the violence there. What does this information have to do with Holder or his role in cartels IN AMERICA?  I know what you mean...
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Holder perfect candidate for Demos. Maybe he runs, he will loose like the last Demo candidate.
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Holder perfect candidate for Demos. Maybe he runs, he will loose like the last Demo candidate. |
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Run Erick Run! Oprah as VP! Yea!!
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nowadays there's ample 'material' for either side to nitpick about. Stay on topic.. drugs were sold to drug runners, its called a sting, it happens in law enforcement, they often try to defend themselves as being entrapped. It was a decision that is part of his job. Just as it was Oliver Norths under Reagan to do something very similar. sting: a carefully planned operation, typically one involving deception. nothing in the definition mandates an arrest ... http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/the-staggering-death-toll-of-mexicos-drug-war/ Another question... How are they going to arrest Mexican citizens in Mexico? the point was that stings do not require arrests, they are done in the HOPES of securing arrest, but do not always end successfully. Im not sure what the rest of the post refers to in Mexico there are roughly 7 gun deaths per 100,000 in USA there are roughly 10 gun deaths per 100,000 The USA makes arrests in the USA for gun crimes The USA does not make arrests in MEXICO for gun crimes The ATF does monitor gun sales in the USA even if they are extending to Mexico. Phoenix and Texas where the gunrunners in question were residing, is in the USA. |
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Run Erick Run! Oprah as VP! Yea!! |
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