FYI,that's the Guy with the Bear-rug in his living-room!
Its alive,but too "skeered" to move!

John111,

So i take it you totally against trans serving? If you are thats okay this is why i post so i get opposition of both perspective.

the military doesn't accept lots of people for many reasons... being mental is one... trannys should be rejected on that reason alone...

MightyMoe,

I hear you but suppose it where they say white heterosexual men cant serve? Suppose minorities cant serve? Suppose being christian cant serve right? Wouldn't be fair ? So trans are people too. I can remember the time here in America they say there will never be a black president here.look what we had Obama.

whats fair got to do with anything? life/nature is the ultimate fairness... the only people that whine about fairness are the losers who get competition trophies...without white, heterosexual men, there wouldn't be a country for your buddy obama to ruin... like i said, they do not let people with mental conditions in, that includes confused individuals that can't figure out who/what they are... and i'm sure this will affect the fairness values of the 40 or so trannies in the military...

and if you remember, minorities weren't allowed in for a long time, and neither were women or gays...

my point is this - someone who thinks they are not in the right body is mental, period... just because they want to be the opposite sex doesn't mean they should... i want to go explore space, but that doesn't mean i will... what we want and the hand we are dealt is not always the same thing, so getting an operation isn't going to make a man into a woman, ever, no matter had hard they try or spend on operations... they are born what they are, nothing will ever change that... and them thinking it can change something makes them even more mental...

Well we can blame the drugged out hippies of the 60's for the screwed up state our country is in now. Now they run the country. During my time in Nam occasionally officers would get shot during heavy fighting They would get it from their own troops.Usually because they were trying to make points with the higher ups at the expense of the troops.There is no way in hell to pin down who shot the man during the fire fight because of how crazy things were going. Queers and fags were very wise to keep there mouth shut or they would end up the same way . You can pass all the laws you want in support of this sick BS. But the troops in the field will apply a solders justice to solve the problem.
Similar to the kind of justice that goes on in prison.

you
ever look at the list of things that will keep you out of the military? quite extensive

I heard it was a problem with being able to classify them as either male or female for active duty

yes..it is a concern if you are out in the middle of nowhere
and you are in need of daily medication that you cannot get

just like it would be if you were diabetic

this does not make the military evil for taking this under consideration

TMommy

Welcome to my cyber mansion. I agree like you say all the other things to pick & choose to judge. I say it like this. Who cares if you live as a man or woman. I want to know your health. I want to know your mental capacity. I want to know if you willing to kill for the sake of the americas. Stuff like that. Again if a man in a dress have what it takes to defend our civil liberties oppose to captain america with a ego and no tactical training hell let them be.

there's a reason why some are allowed in and some are not... what makes me wanna trust a tranny would do for that anyone in the first place? combat is not the place for any transgendered, unless they can prove in bootcamp they are worthy... the only female cadet ever for Navy seals just dropped out of seals boot because it isn't designed for women, whether they think they are a man or not... it's just to tough for any woman..

The Israel military has had women for years, but I think they are a bit different to western women, no offense, just more fiery, and completely different temperament.

seals is a special boot camp, it was desighned for men only, and only a few can pass it... maybe the toughest boot camp in the world... this is after the regular naval boot camp as well..

Yes, it's the equivalent to our sas "special air service "or sbs "special boat service " I think they argue about who is best lol
Although our sas and an input to the forming of the seals back in the day and I'm pretty sure there are no females in the sas, or any other creatures lol

LOL... all of our SF's argue about who's the best here, so i'm sure other countries might have a point to make as well...

Oh definitely! Seals compete with the sas to. They do work together to!
It's some training they go through, you must of seen it, and not being judgemental but female or feminine types are not made from the right stuff!
A reason given here for not having front line females was if captured they undoubtedly would be subjected to sexual torture! Plus guys naturally want to protect them thus loosing focus on the battle.

now the guys have to worry about sexual torture... thanks, libs...

truthful I'd doubt these hybrids actually want to join up, it's just others trying to exercise there "human rights " at the cost of the tax payers! I've said this before, you wouldn't get this in the corporate world I'm sure!