At my age I poke them with a stick first to see if they're still alive..

the reality of things would be to watch out for signs /clues before we make a move...we can only bring water to our pet dog but if its not thirsty and doesn't want to drink you cannot force it. so, wait for that thirst or let the dog come to you and if it doesnt then maybe it needs something or another master

i think im off topic to my own topic

and there is no movement here at this time

I started a thread a couple years ago asking guys how they felt about women making the first move. I was surprised to discover that most men were in favor of it.They explained that it it took a lot of pressure off of them.

As for when its the best time to make the first move, I agree with those who said you should look for some hints that the person is interested.

And ultimately you have to be ready to handle rejection if it happens ,and have the peace that the person displayed enough qualities to make the risk of rejection worthwhile.

Well reacting to your post on here.. I have always heard and made to understand that when the time is right the right people will emerge and I turn and ask myself when do I know the time will be the right time when every one is busy rejecting or to busy to date or get serious... I just wonder

peggy122 I will say i appreciate if women make the first move of approach to the men.. to me I feel a woman who does that isn't a pretender but a woman with a great mind and balls because actually there might be rejects But it should be done in a very polite manner.. not to scorn the women.

Thanks piscesmoon02 for the clue you just pointed out.. I m really relieved.
Honestly there nothing bad when a lady tends to give a green light to a man..

would there really be such a thing as moving too slow and moving too fast after the initial first move

This is the best first move...

For me I still believed the old fashioned, no matter how much u attracted that person if u are a girl, u have to wait the guy to approach u, u can add always a sweet smile if u like that guy anyway..

define first move

How are you doing? I hope things are moving well with you there. I just check your profile and it was very amazing. You can check mine and let me know what you think? I think it will be interesting knowing you. I like your profile and I want you to know that I am looking for a serious relationship that we lead me to a marriage but friend first. I would like to know u better and be good friends with u and am sure something deeper will spring from there. What matters are Trust and Faith and a relationship beginning on a basic foundation of friendship with trust?

For those who presently have a relationship, it doesn't matter who makes the first move since you already have made your commitment to each other then you have the responsibilities to do your part or duties as a partner. If you have misunderstanding, don't let pride ruin your relationship , humble down , apologize , admit your mistakes and reconcile. Don't wait for the other to do the first move.

If it's a future relationship, it would be better for a man to make the first move. A girl always wait for a man to approach her , to show his interest and real intention. It is normal that mostly women are cautious , she would rather make sure the man is truly interested with her and if he is, he will make time and effort to show his intentions. I believe that if a man is real, he would do everything , in any possible way to prove himself, no matter how long and difficult it would take him to show his love or interest. Considering that if a man is shy, unless if he shows some hints or clues to a girl that he's interested maybe the girl with the guts and who also have an eye for that man, it's okay to make a first move. But nowadays mostly men are just waiting for a vulnerable prey to devour. Some men like women who are aggressive because it would not give them a hard time at all to get the girl. They would rather go for the easy ones than the difficult to get women. I am not saying if a girl makes the first move is already easy, as explained above it depends on the personality as there are different approaches you could make for every individual. Whichever way you want it , make the move first or wait , there's nothing wrong with it but just be careful not to get yourself hurt and be a victim of some opportunists for they may take advantage of your weakness or vulnerability. Exercise your discernment.

So.... I am a little confused here. Is this is your first move to all M2 users? If so that's a big net you have just thrown out...

no right time, bad example: when is it perfect to die? for sure none, its unexpected .

You are not far from the truth..but how will you feel when you see your best friend sleeping with you man..the man you once have this feeling of??

True princess