Fanta posts racist lies, propaganda to rouse the masses into believing his garbage. Anyone who knows better like me cannot let it lie because it is all lies. There are website spitting so much propaganda and skewed statistics out there it is sickening. All for the racist causes too mind you.

maybe you should back off the namecalling...Fanta was quoting
facts...and the fact is that illegals are engaged in acts of crime
here... we need to do something about it...or this country will
cease to exist...


Fanta... thanks for the info....

Sounds like personal insults!!!!

Hmmmmmmm...........

Rules mean nothing to some in their loss for factual arguement!

You no nothing about me. I suggest you reframe from this hypocritical defense.

It just makes you look like a fool!

You're welcome davinci!

I am not calling a name, propagandist is what he is. Racist is used in an action sense of the word so no name calling there. He might want to revisit his form of sharing information maybe then the action would not be so racial.

His info is skewed and incorrect so therefore it is propaganda.

dragoness...might I suggest you take 14 min and watch this little video..
it may explain a few things

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4094926727128068265

Just because someone bothered to make a video or skewed stats to help support their political agenda still does not prove anything by me. Illegal immigration is simple, enforce the rules that are already on the books and find a way to legalize the immigrants already here so we can get the taxes out of them and move on. It is not what the racist are hoping to make it out to be. Crime is crime and poor disadvantage people are going to be the criminals whether they be white or black or hispanic or asian or anything inbetween. The racists are pushing this agenda into a mass panic that it is not. Look behind the scenes and under the rocks, you will find them there. Pushing these small issues into main stream hoping for a rise in fear and panic. Fear and panic is their method for political power.

OMG!!!

thin air in colorado right?...thought so...

I looked at the video and then did a search on Roy Beck and NumbersUSA. This led to a John Tanton who has played a major role it would seem in the backlash against immigrants (note that I did not state illegal immigrants). Tanton doesn't seem very unbiased and this affiliation does taint the Roy Beck piece.

Taken from Page on John Tanton.

"According to Tolerance.org, a project of the Southern Poverty Law Center: "The organized anti-immigration 'movement' is almost entirely the handiwork of one man, Michigan activist John. H. Tanton." In June 2002, it listed thirteen groups that formed part of the "loose-knit Tanton network." The following groups were founded and funded (through U.S. Inc.) by Tanton: Center for Immigration Studies, Federation for American Immigration Reform, NumbersUSA, Pro English, Social Contract Press, U.S. English, and U.S. Inc. Others, such as American Immigration Control Foundation, American Patrol/Voices of Citizens Together, Californians for Population Stabilization, ProjectUSA, are part of the Tanton network because their funding has been channeled through U.S. Inc. Another organization cited by Tolerance.Org, as part of the network is Population-Environment Balance, because Tanton had joined its board. (1)"




Roy Beck and Numbers USA

http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1528


John Tanton

http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1360

right on, karma, do not believe all you see for there are those who would like to take you to places you would not wish to go.

yep fanta blind as a bat i quess


but this website should be looked at by
anyone with any feelings about alien status
no matter which side they are on

http://www.gao.gov/htext/d05646r.html


very informative

with info on how they obtained their info

very informative

well you can say what you want about it be racist

as far as i am concerned

lawbreakers should be held accountable

if whether they are orange green purple or any combination

of any other color

those crying racism are usually the ones that are racist

if they break the law (illegal) they should be handled

as the law says to handle it

if it is incarceration then they should be incarcerated

if it is death then they should be executed

if it is deportation then they should be deported

I see very clearly, there is a racist undercurrent pushing these ideals and it is a serious thing that racists are politically powerful at any level. This country is suppose to be a melting pot of all cultures and races, it suppose to be where anyone can come and chase the dream, it is suppose to be for the people by the people not just the white people.

who is saying different

the u s has the highest legal immigration rate

in the world

and would probably be higher if it was not

for all the illegals jumping to the front of the line

adj, that is the same link given by Fanta. I will agree that it is very informative. However if one believes the total number of illegals then that is a small study group used. Also does not state what percentage of the National Crimes are done by illegals. I would be interested in seeing whether these 'high' numbers are as high when compared to National numbers (as opposed to just what illegals are doing crimes) What is the % of the national crime rate which is held by illegals? Nationally it could be lower than crimes done by legal hispanics, whites, mulattos, Afican Americans, asians etc.

Numbers are indeed a wonderful thing. But can be used in so many ways. The problem is in finding the correct use.

Karma that first post is accurate information obtained by the FBI!
Believe it or not. I got it off the National News Network FOX! It can be found all kinds of places if one will look!

Center for Immigration Studies, Federation for American Immigration Reform, NumbersUSA, Pro English, Social Contract Press, U.S. English, and U.S. Inc. Others, such as American Immigration Control Foundation, American Patrol/Voices of Citizens Together, Californians for Population Stabilization, ProjectUSA.

Besides publishing facts and standing up for "The American way of Life", what have these organizations done that is worthy of condemnation?=====Disagree with 13% of the people,,,,,disagree with a bunch of foreigners that hate to see Americans protect their country from outside influences, or disagree with a bunch of bleeding hearts who would gladly and foolishly give America away.

Tell me quick so I can pass the information on to my nephew who just went to Iraq, while an illegal safe in his country, took his job!

Offered citizenship for their patri0tic service to this country some illegals are honorably earning their right to be here, Rock on, I will gladly say these men and women have earned a right to be here. Come legally, Ill welcome you with open arms. Shake-N-Bake? This veteran will never accept!

Thats ok adj, Im blind too.