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Topic: Spotting media bias
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Tue 10/11/16 10:30 PM
Edited by msharmony on Tue 10/11/16 10:22 PM
I do not like to copy and paste so much so I am including the link instead

some information I thought was interesting and helpful, and not 'biased' towards any sides but just objective about spin


http://www.highya.com/articles-guides/dont-get-taken-for-a-spin-this-election-season-how-to-spot-and-avoid-media-bias

check list from the article

Are there diverse opinions and sources?
Does the story use stereotypes and fear-mongering to make a point?
Does the story's point of view pander to a narrow audience?
Are there double standards, where one side is condemned while the other is let off easy?
Are there unchallenged assumptions?
Is the language loaded with extremes?
Is there a lack of context explaining why a situation occurred?
Does the headline match the story, or was it designed just to capture your attention through fear?

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Wed 10/12/16 01:54 PM
After the Constitutional Convention of 1887 at Independence Hall. A Mrs. Powell asked Ben Franklin, "Well Doctor, what we got, a republic or monarchy?" With no hesitation He responded. "A republic if you can keep it."


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Wed 10/12/16 02:34 PM

I do not like to copy and paste so much so I am including the link instead

some information I thought was interesting and helpful, and not 'biased' towards any sides but just objective about spin


http://www.highya.com/articles-guides/dont-get-taken-for-a-spin-this-election-season-how-to-spot-and-avoid-media-bias

check list from the article


Are there diverse opinions and sources?
Does the story use stereotypes and fear-mongering to make a point?
Does the story's point of view pander to a narrow audience?
Are there double standards, where one side is condemned while the other is let off easy?
Are there unchallenged assumptions?
Is the language loaded with extremes?
Is there a lack of context explaining why a situation occurred?
Does the headline match the story, or was it designed just to capture your attention through fear?

It's a great check list!
But, how can we get the liberal, biased media to follow them?


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Wed 10/12/16 04:45 PM
first, maybe start ignoring articles that frame issues or events around 'liberals' or 'conservatives'

IgorFrankensteen's photo
Wed 10/12/16 08:08 PM


It's a great check list!
But, how can we get the liberal, biased media to follow them?




Also, by working to NOT try to "fight fire with fire." In other words, supporting the opposite bias to the one you are aware of, just adds to the ignorance, it doesn't illuminate or dispel it.

I grew up in a world where the extreme left was telling all their people to assume that all mainstream news was controlled by "the establishment," and that they should therefore only believe "approved" left-biased sources. Nowadays, the Right is saying the same thing to their supporters, and we have as much or more intense ignorance masquerading as certainty infesting everything.

It's not enough to pat oneself on the back for recognizing that bias exists in some areas of news reporting, and it's even worse, if you decide to change blind acceptance, to blind rejection, in the name of self-righteousness.

Bottom line, I don't think it's a matter of us non-media types trying to "get the media to follow" such ideals, it's up to us to pay attention so that we don't depend on bias that pleases us, for our news. And this sort of article and list is a good start.

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Wed 10/12/16 08:20 PM
Edited by alleoops on Wed 10/12/16 08:29 PM

first, maybe start ignoring articles that frame issues or events around 'liberals' or 'conservatives'


Oh,stop watching CNN or MSNBS?:wink: Gotcha.

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Thu 10/13/16 02:47 AM


first, maybe start ignoring articles that frame issues or events around 'liberals' or 'conservatives'


Oh,stop watching CNN or MSNBS?:wink: Gotcha.
especially stop watching PMSNBC!laugh

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Thu 10/13/16 07:45 AM



It's a great check list!
But, how can we get the liberal, biased media to follow them?




Also, by working to NOT try to "fight fire with fire." In other words, supporting the opposite bias to the one you are aware of, just adds to the ignorance, it doesn't illuminate or dispel it.

I grew up in a world where the extreme left was telling all their people to assume that all mainstream news was controlled by "the establishment," and that they should therefore only believe "approved" left-biased sources. Nowadays, the Right is saying the same thing to their supporters, and we have as much or more intense ignorance masquerading as certainty infesting everything.

It's not enough to pat oneself on the back for recognizing that bias exists in some areas of news reporting, and it's even worse, if you decide to change blind acceptance, to blind rejection, in the name of self-righteousness.

Bottom line, I don't think it's a matter of us non-media types trying to "get the media to follow" such ideals, it's up to us to pay attention so that we don't depend on bias that pleases us, for our news. And this sort of article and list is a good start.




I am trying to do better at this myself,, but it is hard to step back from bias,,,,when it comes to accepting and repeating what we read or hear from others,,

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Thu 10/13/16 11:17 AM




It's a great check list!
But, how can we get the liberal, biased media to follow them?




Also, by working to NOT try to "fight fire with fire." In other words, supporting the opposite bias to the one you are aware of, just adds to the ignorance, it doesn't illuminate or dispel it.

I grew up in a world where the extreme left was telling all their people to assume that all mainstream news was controlled by "the establishment," and that they should therefore only believe "approved" left-biased sources. Nowadays, the Right is saying the same thing to their supporters, and we have as much or more intense ignorance masquerading as certainty infesting everything.

It's not enough to pat oneself on the back for recognizing that bias exists in some areas of news reporting, and it's even worse, if you decide to change blind acceptance, to blind rejection, in the name of self-righteousness.

Bottom line, I don't think it's a matter of us non-media types trying to "get the media to follow" such ideals, it's up to us to pay attention so that we don't depend on bias that pleases us, for our news. And this sort of article and list is a good start.




I am trying to do better at this myself,, but it is hard to step back from bias,,,,when it comes to accepting and repeating what we read or hear from others,,


Good for you MsH! Now if we can only get you to stop accepting the liberal propaganda you will be in good shape.:thumbsup:

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Thu 10/13/16 12:03 PM
I get just as angry when I watch both sides of the media spectrum

BS is BS, no matter who's flinging it. rant

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Thu 10/13/16 01:37 PM

I get just as angry when I watch both sides of the media spectrum

BS is BS, no matter who's flinging it. rant


Well, how bout we smack you in the face with two mackerels?


laugh

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Thu 10/13/16 02:33 PM


I get just as angry when I watch both sides of the media spectrum

BS is BS, no matter who's flinging it. rant


Well, how bout we smack you in the face with two mackerels?


laugh


laugh Yup, That's pretty much what it feels like

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Thu 10/13/16 05:48 PM
Yeah the it's just like the Jerry Springer Show on national television. A parties importance? Don't you think the over all picture in this county is more important than what you want? How bout WE THE PEOPLE. I Have been laid off for 8 months from one of the largest global corporations left in this country and if it wasn't for all there customers requesting their locos. be made at this union plant it would be gone overseas. I wanna know the real reason cause I'm not buying that other stuff you are selling.

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Thu 10/13/16 05:51 PM
what stuff who is selling?

reason for what?

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Thu 10/13/16 05:54 PM
you are intelligent,, explain YOUR comment,,,

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Thu 10/13/16 06:00 PM
I expected as much. You are intelligent figure it out.

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Thu 10/13/16 06:26 PM
Do you see me or only what you want to see? How about anything I wrote?

I am just asking for a better answer of your view of Hillary.
Just because you think she is qualified doesn't cut it for me. Their is way more to the picture. If you would rather not answer that's your choice and I will respect that and move on. Thanks.

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Thu 10/13/16 06:30 PM
There is no industry left

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Thu 10/13/16 07:06 PM

Do you see me or only what you want to see? How about anything I wrote?

I am just asking for a better answer of your view of Hillary.
Just because you think she is qualified doesn't cut it for me. Their is way more to the picture. If you would rather not answer that's your choice and I will respect that and move on. Thanks.


I will gladly answer questions that are clear


a 'better answer' is not clear as I gave a pretty specific one already


if the question is how I define qualified, I briefly explained that too

the primary roles of the President is the global relations persons with other governments and the representation of america to other nations, and the commander in chief and representative of ALL americans


qualified would therefore be someone with the previous skills of being able to be diplomatic and work with others and for others

public service, is the one all encompassing description of those skills


she is qualified in public service due to the work she has done for underprivileged families and the handicapped,,

she is qualified in public service due to her years as FIRST LADY having to champion social causes as the lady next to the President witnessing first hand as well whats involved in being President,

she is qualified in public service due to her years as a senator which gives her knowledge of the types of laws and the procedures for passing laws which government must deal with,


she is qualified in public service as secretary of state which gives her knowledge and experience in global relations and security


,,,,QUALIFICATIONS (the things people put on their resume to explain what experience or knowledge they have in the field they are applying for)



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Thu 10/13/16 07:18 PM

Do you see me or only what you want to see? How about anything I wrote?

I am just asking for a better answer of your view of Hillary.
Just because you think she is qualified doesn't cut it for me. Their is way more to the picture. If you would rather not answer that's your choice and I will respect that and move on. Thanks.


Anyone who cannot see the most corrupt, reprehensible person to ever hold and seek a political office has a low threshold of what a "qualified" person is.

"No man can get rich in politics unless he's a crook"- Harry S. Truman

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