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Topic: Is the stock market about to crash or correct?
Sojourning_Soul's photo
Sun 07/24/16 09:51 AM

I see another bubble about to burst..... at least a very major correction unfolding

The metals market does not match the stock index, the banks and the market are flush, but the money is not making it into the economy as much as they would have us believe while the digital market fluctuates.

Fewer and fewer "real" jobs are being created yet they say unemployment is at a long time low.

The housing market is slipping while home prices are rising.

Is it an election year manipulation of the markets that will bring a correction?

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Sun 07/24/16 11:31 AM
Is the stock market about to crash or correct?

Of course.
But that doesn't mean anything.
- How much of a crash. 100 points? 500 points? 10,000 points?
- When exactly is it going to crash? 2 days? 2 months? 2 years? 2 decades?

The metals market does not match the stock index

You don't need all that deep of analysis to see markets are manipulated and things are pretty bad.

Look at GDP.
What's the formula?
Consumption + Investment + Government spending + (exports - imports).

Record taxes, record government spending, record debt, QE, bailouts, continuously low GDP.

The "government spending" portion of GDP is at record highs...yet GDP doesn't break 3%?

Inject trillions a year? Double the national debt in less than 10 years? And GDP stays around 2% or lower?

Is it an election year manipulation of the markets that will bring a correction?

Raising rates and decreasing the money supply will.
When money is flooding through the market, when wealth is based on velocity, dollars chasing dollars in the market, shutting the tap is going to cause problems.

But a lot is based on psychology rather than tangible things like value added. So it will depend on the narrative supported by the media too.
When you read headlines that a company is breaking income records, then read the earnings or annual report and see it's mostly accounting gimmicks and layoffs that saved money rather than normal business operations, yet everyone is trading the headlines, the party is going to last as long as headlines hold sway and tax loopholes can be utilized.




Robxbox73's photo
Sun 07/24/16 02:39 PM
Um yes, it's been tumbling for a week.

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Sun 07/24/16 03:12 PM
Don't trust '' The System''

motowndowntown's photo
Sun 07/24/16 03:31 PM
Of course there will be corrections and crashes. Anybody who knows when and by how much will become an instant billionaire. And I wish he or she would share the information with me.

IgorFrankensteen's photo
Sun 07/24/16 06:17 PM
Edited by IgorFrankensteen on Sun 07/24/16 06:18 PM


I see another bubble about to burst..... at least a very major correction unfolding

The metals market does not match the stock index, the banks and the market are flush, but the money is not making it into the economy as much as they would have us believe while the digital market fluctuates.

Fewer and fewer "real" jobs are being created yet they say unemployment is at a long time low.

The housing market is slipping while home prices are rising.

Is it an election year manipulation of the markets that will bring a correction?


I'm going with....no.

The markets ARE still being manipulated, but not by the government. They are being manipulated by the inside traders.

No, they aren't temporarily making things seem okay (or dangerous) to try to influence the election. However, who ever is in charge of the government at the moment, tends to proclaim the economy to be in good shape, both to gain approval, and to do their bigger job, of keeping the population from freaking out. That is why Bush Jr pretended that everything was okay, even while it was falling apart right in front of him: he wasn't an idiot (about the market), it was his duty to put out a positive message, so he did.

Now it's Obama's job to put out a positive message no matter what's going on. So he is.

Yes, there are lots of people trying influence your vote by getting you to be suspicious of whoever is in office at the moment. No, they don't know any better than anyone else, what's really going on, no matter what they tell you.

They are like everyone else who sells things in this country, they will tell you what you want to hear, that will tend to make you do what is profitable for them.


Serchin4MyRedWine's photo
Mon 07/25/16 10:21 AM



The markets ARE still being manipulated, but not by the government. They are being manipulated by the inside traders.



You don't think the government is manipulating the Market? LOL
I guess the Fed giving free money(no interest)to Wall Street is all fair and good while the banks won't lend a dime to the average person.
The Fed keeps backing down on their"promise" to continue raising the interest rates but always seems to find a "reason" not to.
The Fed artificially keeps the economic numbers "good" for the Wall Street bankers by pumping cheap money into the system.

This can only last so long and we the people will again end up paying for this insane economic policy when it crashes.

IgorFrankensteen's photo
Mon 07/25/16 05:46 PM
I should have phrased that more precisely. The government isn't ALONE in determining what the market does. It plays less of a part than some of the more accusatory pundits want people to believe.

There are limits to what a government CAN do to influence the entire economy, as even the various despotic and communist countries have learned the hard way. In the US especially, the Fed does set interest rates, and control the money supply to an extent. However, that doesn't mean that they have the power to overnight make everyone rich or poor, because there are consequences to what decisions they make, which are NOT under their control.

They can keep the prime interest rate low, in order to encourage more borrowing BY THE PEOPLE WHO MAKE LOANS TO OTHERS. But they can't directly force those people to make loans, nor can they force people to borrow or to spend (despite what certain myth/propagandists would like everyone to believe).



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Tue 07/26/16 03:02 AM


I see another bubble about to burst..... at least a very major correction unfolding

The metals market does not match the stock index, the banks and the market are flush, but the money is not making it into the economy as much as they would have us believe while the digital market fluctuates.

Fewer and fewer "real" jobs are being created yet they say unemployment is at a long time low.

The housing market is slipping while home prices are rising.

Is it an election year manipulation of the markets that will bring a correction?
Yes it will crash. It is part of the plan.

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Tue 07/26/16 08:11 AM

"Give me control of a nations money supply, and I care not who makes it’s laws"
Amschel Rothchild

Rooster35's photo
Tue 07/26/16 08:27 AM
Don't trust '' The System''

:thumbsup:

Especially when we know they can cook the books and lie their butts off anytime they like.

Seakolony's photo
Tue 07/26/16 08:46 AM
The stock market is a pseudo market, just like paper money, just like anything put in place by government. It is all false and with the wave of a hand it can be gone. People abracadabra made it appear and abracadabra can make it disappear. This pseudoeconomy has done nothing for the people or our country.

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Tue 07/26/16 10:18 AM

The stock market is a pseudo market, just like paper money, just like anything put in place by government. It is all false and with the wave of a hand it can be gone. People abracadabra made it appear and abracadabra can make it disappear. This pseudoeconomy has done nothing for the people or our country.


The 10 year low interest rates are a never before seen phenomenon... it's a worldwide event and not just in "America".

The markets are overinflated absolutely, they're not reflecting the reality on the streets, but in a way, they're sheltered from a reversal because of the interest rates being so low that people aren't interested in parking their retirement funds in a regular savings account or GIC earning 1.25% per year. Making money from your money has never been more of a challenge so they risk their capital for minor gains on the equity markets.

The eight year itch is upon us after the 2008 meltdown, this time the govs don't have the wiggle room of soon to be needed bailout funds. The cycle isn't over yet... Remember, if a taxi driver is giving you stock tips, it's time to liquidate your investment portfolio.


Conrad_73's photo
Tue 07/26/16 10:34 AM
FED upgraded with a Penny in the Fuse-Box!


Serchin4MyRedWine's photo
Tue 07/26/16 12:29 PM

Don't trust '' The System''

Don't trust Hillary either LOL
She made $100,000.00 off a $1000.00 investment in cattle futures.
Something she never traded before.
Smells like insider trading, A crime, but that never stopped crooked Hillary beforelaugh laugh

Seakolony's photo
Tue 07/26/16 02:30 PM


The stock market is a pseudo market, just like paper money, just like anything put in place by government. It is all false and with the wave of a hand it can be gone. People abracadabra made it appear and abracadabra can make it disappear. This pseudoeconomy has done nothing for the people or our country.


The 10 year low interest rates are a never before seen phenomenon... it's a worldwide event and not just in "America".

The markets are overinflated absolutely, they're not reflecting the reality on the streets, but in a way, they're sheltered from a reversal because of the interest rates being so low that people aren't interested in parking their retirement funds in a regular savings account or GIC earning 1.25% per year. Making money from your money has never been more of a challenge so they risk their capital for minor gains on the equity markets.

The eight year itch is upon us after the 2008 meltdown, this time the govs don't have the wiggle room of soon to be needed bailout funds. The cycle isn't over yet... Remember, if a taxi driver is giving you stock tips, it's time to liquidate your investment portfolio.




They can risk whatever they want. I refuse to waste.my money on a volatile market. I will keep mine in my credit union. To be honest my interest rates are better than the bank. In order.to win you have to be willing to lose. I.might as well buy a lottery ticket. Actually I think my chances are better hitting the lottery.

Seakolony's photo
Tue 07/26/16 02:31 PM

FED upgraded with a Penny in the Fuse-Box!




That only worked in old fuse boxes. Doesn't work with square D

Godsfriend10's photo
Tue 07/26/16 03:27 PM



The stock market is a pseudo market, just like paper money, just like anything put in place inby government. It is all false and with the wave of a hand it can be gone. People abracadabra made it appear and abracadabra can make it disappear. This pseudoeconomy has done nothing for the people or our country.


The 10 year low interest rates are a never before seen phenomenon... it's a worldwide event and not just in "America".

The markets are overinflated absolutely, they're not reflecting the reality on the streets, but in a way, they're sheltered from a reversal because of the interest rates being so low that people aren't interested in parking their retirement funds in a regular savings account or GIC earning 1.25% per year. Making money from your money has never been more of a challenge so they risk their capital for minor gains on the equity markets.

The eight year itch is upon us after the 2008 meltdown, this time the govs don't have the wiggle room of soon to be needed bailout funds. The cycle isn't over yet... Remember, if a taxi driver is giving you stock tips, it's time to liquidate your investment portfolio.




They can risk whatever they want. I refuse to waste.my money on a volatile market. I will keep mine in my credit union. To be honest my interest rates are better than the bank. In order.to win you have to be willing to lose. I.might as well buy a lottery ticket. Actually I think my chances are better hitting the lottery.

Volatile is the middle name of the market. Big gains and big losses. Knowing when to dive in and out is key here to being profitable on the exchange. Its good to follow institutional investors(market makers), but best to follow your intuition when making investment decisions-especially on a volatile platform like the stock exchange.
Whatever state a market is gains could be made and losses could be incurred. Just know your timing!!


adj4u's photo
Tue 07/26/16 05:33 PM



same old issues

every thing is great interest rates about to go up

banks are betting on how cwertain things are going to react to the market

and the banks are gonna crash ahhhhhhgainnn


but hey what do i know

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Wed 07/27/16 05:08 AM
But what I've seen on the web marketing details of the west is more stable then the east....at least nonlike some kind of wave of 'Bulls' but everything stay in charge with the industrial developing level and the social needs.......drinker

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