Except Hillary never went before a court.

yes, and by this logic, every person here is a non innocent pedophile , that enough evidence hasn't presented itself to prove they are anything different


ridiculous,, right?




rather someone has done something or not , isn't based upon if there are charges or what a verdict says


it only depends upon the truth of if they did it


and , since a 'movement' is not a person,, and nothing in its official literature or statements encourages individuals to violence


the allegation that they encourage it as a movement because some individuals have shown up and chosen to break laws is an illogical leap of logic

agreed, but it's not my logic it's your logic

actually, no,


the 'cant be innocent' is your nonsense


my logic is that a jury doesn't know if a person has done something or not,, they only know that there has to be certain elements 'proven; that fit the definition of a crime


so legal 'not guilty', does not mean a person has not done something,, although they may not have,,,it means that they weren't proven to


as I'm sure most adults understand,,,unless they just like arguing over stupid things

Again, learn how courts work, there is a phrase "legal definition" and using your own definition of "not guilty, until proven guilty" gives rise to the arguments above.

There is a REASON that the phrase is "INNOCENT until proven guilty"

Your logic allows for this to be true.


Now if we use the LEGAL definition(instead of made up ones to suit our own agenda)

Then the quote would be


HMMM..wonder I wonder why the courts chose those words...maybe, just maybe...they knew what they were doing.

WTH are you STILL on about?

you understand English words can have different contexts and meanings right?

I mean seriously,, not made up

from Miriam Webster

innocent:

a : free from guilt or sin especially through lack of knowledge of evil : blameless <an innocent child>

b : harmless in effect or intention <searching for a hidden motive in even the most innocent conversation — Leonard Wibberley>; also : candid <gave me an innocent gaze>

c : free from legal guilt or fault; also : lawful <a wholly innocent transaction


so, one can be free from (actual)guilt,, or legal guilt


actual 'innocence' concerns the reality, legal guilt concerns how well lawyers do their jobs

sometimes they match and sometimes they don't



get it yet?

Yes the your LEGAL definition is made up, I know words can have different context's but one should understand that mixing those context's whenever they feel like it, isn't how the courts work(you referenced learn the courts),



So who decides whether they match or not? shouldn't it be the people who have all the facts, the evidence, who were picked to hear both sides and decide?

Or is it a movement, who just 'thinks' that they got it wrong, don't have the facts, operates from a place of emotion instead of logic, that should decide whether they are innocent?

Anyone with half a brain should be choose the correct the answer.

exactly and while we go in for their distractions and talk about what they want us to talk about then they slip this bill or that ordinance thru the legislature and it becomes law

opinions , unless one witnesses an act directly

all information isn't ever going to be known



I doubt public forums will shut down so people can constantly study the verbage of every bill or proposal,, even folks paid to do it dont dedicate every moment to it


those other moments,, are prime for discussion of other things in our lives

it matters not if you see it or not you still only see it from
your perspective

ask any detective that has multiple witnesses to an event
and they will tell you that none of the witnesses gave the
same narrative

no one ever knows the full story especially me [wink]

but hey what do i know lol

so we agree noone has all the information

so people form the best and most reasonable conclusion to them, based on what they DO know and on their one perspective from their own experiences

Bacon..Lettuce...Mayo..hold the tomato..?..kiddin'

mmm,,,, actually sounds good, except holding the mayo''

...haha see how you are..I held the tomato..and you didn't want nothing to do with that white sh**....as far as a boring girl..naw...just lacked mayo...hugs

lol


nah, actually I'm a miracle whip girl,, sandwich isn't a sandwich without it,,,

BLM, or the same lazy , begging for free stuff group of occoupires are a racist group of iggnorant fools. i think the police should not respond to calls in the black nieghborhoods. let them kill themselves, because with the number of blacks killing other blacks they cant last long.

Any YLM consern? ....

I'll second that!

this keyboard is whacky,,lol

I meant to say, it just takes an initiative and a hashtag to see if your concerns are shared by others and create a movement