Do you think in your estimation that the shootings of black people by the police has increased or is just now revealed to us, and has been going on for many years...?

Nothing much has really changed over the last decade except for technology and the availability of information sharing now..... and the divider in chief beside himself further complicating the issue with his racist rhetoric

It's been happening to both white and black UNDERPRIVILEGED citizens for a long time. The white shootings don't make the news as often, but they happen albeit at a lesser rate(According to one source) as unjustified black shootings.

Unfortunately the media turns it into a race issue, and while some are it's not always the case. I honestly believe it's more of a 'classist' thing.

If you're poor, you're not worth it and they(cops) are better then you and can do what they want, look at the Oakland PD department, dang near the entire department taking advantage of an underage prostitute.

Why don't we ever hear of them accidentally gunning down some wall-street executive? or some CEO, nope. Instead we see rich kids getting away with rape(6 months sentence REALLY?) I think the news wants to make it about race, so we don't wake up and see the classism going on.


As of August 16th, 60 unarmed people have been shot by the police since January 1st, 2015. Their names follow. Those marked with a star are either known to have a history of mental illness, or were exhibiting signs of extreme mental or emotional distress before they were killed.

Black Americans

Thomas Allen, 34
William Chapman, 18
Albert Joseph Davis, 23
Samuel DuBose, 43
Salvado Ellswood, 36
David Felix, 24 *
Brendon Glenn, 29
Bobby Gross, 35 *
Lavall Hall, 25 *
Eric Harris, 44
Anthony Hill, 27 *
Artago Damon Howard, 36
Kris Jackson, 22
Brandon Jones, 18
Charly Leundeu Keunang, 43 *
Victor Emanuel Larosa, 23
Jeremy Lett, 28
Spencer McCain, 41 *
Tony Robinson, 19
Walter Scott, 50
Frank Shephard, 41
Darrius Stewart, 19
Christian Taylor, 19
Naeschylus Vinzant, 37

Hispanic Americans

Rudy Baca, 36
Richard Carlin, 35
Ernesto Javiar Canepa Diaz, 27
Joshua Omar Garcia, 24
Joaquin Hernandez, 28
Roberto Leon, 22
Hector Morejon, 19
Sergio Alexander Navas, 36
Antonio Perez, 32
John Paul Quintero, 23
Alfredo Rials-Torres, 54
Adrian Simental, 24 *
Ruben Villalpando, 31
Antonio Zambrano-Montes, 35 *

Native Americans

Daniel Covarrubias, 37 *

White Americans

Johnny Ray Anderson, 43
Ryan Bolinger, 28
Rodney Biggs, 49
Jamison Childress, 29 *
Derek Cruice, 26
John Deming, 19
Joshua Dyer, 34
Daniel Elrod, 39
Michael Ireland, 34
David Kassick, 59
Jeremy Linhart 30
Alexander Phillip Long, 31
Ebin Lamont Proctor, 19
Billy Joe Patrick, 29
Autumn Steele, 34
Ralph Willis, 42
Derek Wolfsteller, 31 *

Americans of Other/Unknown Races

Feras Morad, 20 *
Fridoon Zalbeg Rawshannehad, 42 *
Darren Billy Wilson, 47

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/8/16/1412630/-Police-Shootings-in-2015-Just-the-Facts

Unarmed doesn't mean not dangerous. I won't take the time to do this for all all last listed but I'll do the first one....

Thomas Allen 34

WELLSTON • County police said Monday that a Wellston officer feared for his life and that of a 5-year-old girl Saturday when he fatally wounded a St. Louis man who tried to flee a traffic stop.
Thomas Lee Allen Jr., 34, of St. Louis, died Sunday after being shot by a Wellston officer the day before, police said.
Allen, who was a back seat passenger of a vehicle pulled over in a traffic stop about 10:15 a.m., climbed into the driver seat during the stop and tried to drive off.
Police did not identify the Wellston officer but said he has served the department since 2007.
Three adults and the 5-year-old girl were in the car when it was stopped by police at Morton and Page avenues for not signaling and making an improper left turn. During the traffic stop, the officer became suspicious of Allen when he “made several movements” that suggested Allen might be reaching for a weapon. The officer told Allen to get out of the vehicle, searched him and the vehicle and found no weapons or anything illegal. The officer then allowed Allen to get back into the vehicle.
A second Wellston officer arrived to investigate. While police were talking to the male driver and another passenger outside the car, Allen climbed behind the wheel and tried to drive off.
County police said the 5-year-old girl was still in the back seat of the vehicle when Allen started to drive away. The officer hopped into the front passenger seat, and tried to get Allen to stop. They struggled and the officer fired three shots as Allen accelerated into a left turn onto Chatham Avenue from Morton.
The car went off the road, crossed an empty lot and came to rest against a building foundation. The Wellston officer who killed Allen suffered minor leg injuries; he was treated at a hospital and released. The girl was not hurt.
Allen’s criminal history includes 2005 convictions of statutory rape and child molestation of a girl, 15, in St. Louis. He is listed as a noncompliant offender on the state’s sex offender registry
http://m.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/wellston-cop-feared-for-his-life-and-girl-s-when/article_1ab0c618-5eb4-5c33-b604-7fa938713367.html

Am I saying all unarmed shootings can be justified? No....but using 'unarmed' in the same context as 'innocent' isn't right either.

Not a dig on you Issac....just a point of order.

..criminal behavior causes legal reprimand...sadly more criminal behavior is committed by black people..why..?..are they deprived..picked on..singled out..?..doubt it...criminals are all colors..location plays a role...but as far as unfair..?..lmao..if black people want to be fair..drop the color card...are you really trying..?...to me all I see out of BLM is that they want to get everything free..and they want to break laws without police interference...slavery ended along time ago...and prominent black people had slaves too...the woman running the movement should go find her roots in her original country...bet hers owned slaves..how about quit acting so deprived...half of you dress better than most...and keep in mind...almost all rap music is preformed by blacks..and rap is the worst music to influence the little mush brains that like it..kill cops..rape *******..drugs make you rich...blah blah...Martin would be sooo disappointed in what he stood for...BLM is a movement comparable to eating something that didn't agree with your digestive track...as soon as I see decent black men representing this "movement" I would consider respecting them..but as is..?..idiots..go get a job

...my bad...

I think its just now revealed globally,, but going on for many years

good article

http://www.youngcons.com/black-cop-stuns-america-with-a-brutal-announcement-for-black-lives-matter/

Loretta Lynch Just Sent This Disturbing Message To Black Lives Matter

“I want you to know that your voice is important,” Lynch said Friday during a news conference at the Justice Department. “Do not be discouraged by those who would use your lawful actions as cover for their heinous violence. We will continue to safeguard your constitutional rights and to work with you in the difficult mission of building a better nation and a brighter future.”

However, there is evidence Black Lives Matter is a violent group.


Black Lives Matter Protest In Dallas Ends With 5 Cops Murdered

At least five Dallas police officers killed by snipers in latest burst of leftist violence

In what is becoming an all-too-common story, a “Black Lives Matter” protest has ended in psychotic violence against police officers.

Multiple Dallas police officers were gunned down by snipers during a “Black Lives Matter” anti-police protest Thursday evening.

As of Friday morning, as many as eleven officers were reported shot, at least five of whom were killed.

Both numbers may continue to rise as reports come in.

The shots appeared to come from a rifle held by a sniper in a parking garage at the intersection of Griffin and Lamar in downtown Dallas.

Several suspects were in custody as of Friday morning.

Witnesses tell CBSDFW.com at least one wounded officer was rushed to the hospital in a police cruiser, with bullet holes in its door and the tires shot out.

This is just the latest in a long line of liberal protests that have ended with deadly attacks on police officers.

* This June, Police Officers Federation of Minneapolis President, Lt. Bob Kroll, declared “Black Lives Matter” a “terrorist organization” after BLM members attempted to firebomb a Minneapolis police station and kill officers.

“I don’t see Black Lives Matter as a voice for the black community in Minneapolis. The disruption, the, you know, they firebombed the precinct,” said Kroll. “There were shootings outside the precinct, hundreds of thousands of dollars [of damage] to the precinct and squad cars.”

* In September 2015, two “Black Lives Matter” activists were convicted of a terrorist plot to blow up St. Louis police stations, kill officers with machine gun fire, and then kill thousands of tourists in a 9/11-inspired bombing of St. Louis’ famous Gateway Arch.

* Also in September 2015, a “Black Lives Matter” activist hunted down and killed a Kentucky state trooper. “Not only was he a Ferguson protester, but he went to Michael Brown’s funeral and burial in a limo, the type usually reserved for family or close friends. In that limo he is riding with people from NAN, Al Sharpton’s group,” Weasel Zippers reports.

* In August 2015, the St. Paul, Minnesota branch of “Black Lives Matter,” rushed the gate of the Minnesota State Fair, screaming for the deaths of police officers.

“Pigs in a blanket, fry ’em like bacon,” the liberal screamed at fairgoers as they tried to smash their way into the gate.

* Also in August 2015, an illegal alien, not named by law enforcement because he was 16, was arrested after setting a Houston-area deputy constable’s patrol car on fire and pointing a rifle at officers, leading to a 35-minute car chase.

During the 35-minute chase across two counties, he also attempted to run over two police officers in a funeral procession.

He cited “Black Lives Matter” rhetoric as his inspiration.

YourHoustonNews reports he told arresting officers the arson attack and attempted vehicular homicide were his “war against the government” because “he was tired of his people getting shot by police and nothing happening, so he came to shoot them.”

* In March 2015, two Ferguson, Missouri police officers were shot in a sniper attack. As the officers lay on the ground bleeding, another liberal activist taunted them, screeching, “Acknowledgement nine months ago would have kept that from happening.”

* In December 2014, a man who praised the Ferguson rioters and vowed to kill police officers as an act of social justice executed two New York City police officers.

“I’m Putting Wings On Pigs Today. They Take 1 Of Ours … Let’s Take 2 of Theirs,” he posted to Instagram before finding and killing officers Wenjian Liu and Rafael Ramos.

His other social media accounts propagated liberal narratives about police violence and the need for rioting.

http://www.americanpatriotdaily.com/latest/yet-another-liberal-protest-ends-in-violence-against-police/

how does one become a 'member' of a movement?



individuals follow social media,, when there are millions some will happen to be unstable

and those individuals should be held accountable, the medium isn't 'violent',, the individual is

there should be a ceremony to do so for anounce people there are something shall be remember.......

Police have been getting more and more trigger-happy for years.

Used to be if somebody acted up the cops beat the crap outta him.

Now they unload a magazine into him.

Police are more and more acting like an army of occupation in some areas rather than peace officers.

Then explain please why you wish to penalize law abiding gun owners for the crimes of "the individual" but don't hold the BLM to the same standard?

Is that a liberal trait? Your Dem Admin under this POTUS seems to think there are different rules for Dems and Reps or the causes and policies they support.

That's been shown to be the case by the head of the IRS, Holder, Lerner, several indicted Dem lawmakers, the Clintons, and now Lynch just to name a few....

oh that's an easy explanation , I don't.

see individuals don't have an express right to commit murders or homicides without consequence

in or out of uniform

that doesn't 'penalize' anyone, people have a right to protest and speak up about their grievances which also doesn't 'penalize' anyone

people also have hundreds or thousands of gun choices , which doesn't 'penalize' anyone either

this is not about political labels, dem/rep, lib/conserve,,,,blah blah blah


its simply about peoples right to have their grievances addressed and to assemble for that purpose,,,,,

Where is the outcry for Travon Williams? A 9 year old child child who was just entering the 5th grade and who was happy his dad bought him a bag of candy..... He was gunned down a couple of days ago with his dad and a friend of his dads.

Unlike a known criminal who is an adult who was a well known violent criminal to law enforcement who was out committing crimes when approached by law enforcement. What do we get for that? Rioting and killed cops thanks to black lives matters.

If the tables were turned and the suspect was a white person all hell would be breaking loose and we would have rioting nation wide.

I guess if it's a black on black crime, black lives matters doesn't think it deserves the attention............ Sad, just sad.

Really puts things into perspective.......

the perspective is how lame people are with using logic


one is a CRIME by a CRIMINAL in which the justice system has shown can be fully expected to hold someone accountable

as opposed to a KILLING by a COP in which the system can be almost fully expected to excuse and justify , holding no one accountable but the victim

Blaming the Cops again?
What about the behavior of the "Victim"?
Or,explain Chicago!
Strange,not a beep out of the Activists about the Crime in predominately African-American Neighborhoods!

no one blame the cops but the system proceesions of socialty it self.

good night huston...........

Hmmm. Black or white, no one seems safe anymore,

guns drawn for what? Looked like a perfect candidate to get tazered not shot 4 times point blank

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/14/us/fresno-dylan-noble-shooting-video/index.html?sr=fbcnni071416fresno-dylan-noble-shooting-video0659AMVODtopLink&linkId=26544957

Edit
Another vid, in this one, the officer releases his weapon in his vehicle and points it at the pick up through the windshield, while he's driving???

http://www.fresnobee.com/news/local/article89487582.html