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I still cant get my head around Liberal logic. I really cant. Maybe it's a mental illness they have?
I have read and listened to all of this Benghazi stuff now that has come out and I am seriously scratching my head. First it's an internet video cause it (when Jeff Dunham has been making much worse ones for years with Achmed the Dead Terrorist), then Hillary emails her daughter it was Al-Qaeda then the whole stand down order.... WTF is that? WTF were they thinking. They had assets in the area, they had FAST teams and Delta operators in the planes ready to go and they were debating crap like how their uniforms might offend the Libyans?!?!?! First of all from the people I have talked to operators from Delta wear a plain uniform with not distinctive markings, basically just a plan BDU with no patches, flags etc. or black tactical gear with no markings. Plus they do not follow the militaries grooming and dress standards so they can blend in to local areas and also they barely ever wear a uniform on base. The FAST teams are in BDU's with their names, rank and American flag and maybe a Ranger tab on their arms. The Delta Unit was created during the Iranian Hostage Crisis to retake the Embassy and for counter terrorism operations. Hell, their Unit is more secretive then the SEALS. The FAST teams are elite US Marine Special Forces teams whole purpose is to recapture an Embassy or US facility on foreign soil or a Nuclear Navy Ship. How in the f**k is a blank uniform offensive, and frankly who cares! We were under attack on US soil. Also according to the former Supervisory Agent over the President's protection detail Daniel Bongino who has protected two Presidents, the Pope during his visit, numerous dignitaries and been assigned to Embassies before the President's visit on the advance team said they always have an emergency plans for situations like this and their backup plans have backup plans. So why did it happen? We know the answer. Why was nothing done? We also know the answer but what we don't know the answer to is why haven't people been held accountable? I was excited when Trey Gowdy was announced to head the commission, I figured he would get things done and hold people accountable. What the hell is the hold up? How can the Butcher of Benghazi be running for President? She was Secretary of State, she was in the War room with Obama and the Embassies fall under her jurisdiction. As Larry the Cable Guy says, "Get 'Er Done!" |
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I still cant get my head around Liberal logic. I really cant. Maybe it's a mental illness they have?
------------ Yea, that was my reaction years ago. I now say..... 'Don't look for logic where there is none'. Life is simpler, if I 'Don't assume what I am hearing is the truth'. Because chances are it is a manipulation tactic steaming from a control issue'. If they can't get you to agree, they may be able to get you to at least corporate or not object or resist. And maybe... to convince others to do the same. al-Taqiyya: deception; the Islamic word for concealing or disguising one’s beliefs, convictions, ideas, feelings, opinions, and/or strategies. It is impossible to understand Islam and Muslims by listening to their protestations against terror and their proclamations of patriotism for America. Usually, it is wise and fair to give people the benefit of the doubt but when it comes to national safety and the future of America, we had better look twice, even thrice at Muslim patriotism. Why? Because Islam permits lying! http://muslimfact.com/bm/terror-in-the-name-of-islam/islam-permits-lying-to-deceive-unbelievers-and-bri~print.shtml/ http://thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/taqiyya.aspx/ |
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The reason you are struggling is multifold, and primarily because you refuse to use actual FACTS to do your ruminating on this subject.
You don't know what "liberal" means, for a start, nor have you established who has, and has not declared themselves to be one. If YOU assign such labels to other people, then you are simply playing self-adulation games with yourself. None of what you list as "facts" are actually facts, save the name of the city. Instead, you draw your information from propaganda lies made up by people who already dislike everyone involved, and who have no sense of personal honor about hte entire situation. In short, it's no surprise you "can't get your head around" any of it, because you have purposely made sure that none of it does make sense, by lying to yourself about pretty much everything. |
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“He gazed up at the enormous face. Forty years it had taken him to learn what kind of smile was hidden beneath the dark moustache. O cruel, needless misunderstanding! O stubborn, self-willed exile from the loving breast! Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother”
― George Orwell, 1984 |
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Liberal, AND logic? In the same sentence?
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Liberal, AND logic? In the same sentence?
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The reason you are struggling is multifold, and primarily because you refuse to use actual FACTS to do your ruminating on this subject. You don't know what "liberal" means, for a start, nor have you established who has, and has not declared themselves to be one. If YOU assign such labels to other people, then you are simply playing self-adulation games with yourself. None of what you list as "facts" are actually facts, save the name of the city. Instead, you draw your information from propaganda lies made up by people who already dislike everyone involved, and who have no sense of personal honor about hte entire situation. In short, it's no surprise you "can't get your head around" any of it, because you have purposely made sure that none of it does make sense, by lying to yourself about pretty much everything. If someone can't see that, their frickin head is in the sand up to their azz..... |
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The reason you are struggling is multifold, and primarily because you refuse to use actual FACTS to do your ruminating on this subject. You don't know what "liberal" means, for a start, nor have you established who has, and has not declared themselves to be one. If YOU assign such labels to other people, then you are simply playing self-adulation games with yourself. None of what you list as "facts" are actually facts, save the name of the city. Instead, you draw your information from propaganda lies made up by people who already dislike everyone involved, and who have no sense of personal honor about hte entire situation. In short, it's no surprise you "can't get your head around" any of it, because you have purposely made sure that none of it does make sense, by lying to yourself about pretty much everything. More Liberal logic right here folks! Both Obama and Hillary have described themselves as Liberal, Sanders as a Socialist but the Democrat here says I am labeling people?
Oh and by the way, the Bi-Partisan Congressional investigation did turn up that one of the things that held up troops was the debate on what they should wear. Meanwhile we have Government contractors (former US Military) with a stand down order who disobeyed that order to go in and save lives. It wasn't in their contract, they were ordered not to, they weren't getting paid to but did it because it was the right thing to do. |
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The reason you are struggling is multifold, and primarily because you refuse to use actual FACTS to do your ruminating on this subject. You don't know what "liberal" means, for a start, nor have you established who has, and has not declared themselves to be one. If YOU assign such labels to other people, then you are simply playing self-adulation games with yourself. None of what you list as "facts" are actually facts, save the name of the city. Instead, you draw your information from propaganda lies made up by people who already dislike everyone involved, and who have no sense of personal honor about hte entire situation. In short, it's no surprise you "can't get your head around" any of it, because you have purposely made sure that none of it does make sense, by lying to yourself about pretty much everything. If someone can't see that, their frickin head is in the sand up to their azz..... Remind me again, who was President when the last American Diplomat got killed in an attack. Mr. Peanut himself, Jimmy Carter. What a surprise! Another Democrat! |
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I still cant get my head around Liberal logic. I really cant. Maybe it's a mental illness they have? I have read and listened to all of this Benghazi stuff now that has come out and I am seriously scratching my head. First it's an internet video cause it (when Jeff Dunham has been making much worse ones for years with Achmed the Dead Terrorist), then Hillary emails her daughter it was Al-Qaeda then the whole stand down order.... WTF is that? WTF were they thinking. They had assets in the area, they had FAST teams and Delta operators in the planes ready to go and they were debating crap like how their uniforms might offend the Libyans?!?!?! First of all from the people I have talked to operators from Delta wear a plain uniform with not distinctive markings, basically just a plan BDU with no patches, flags etc. or black tactical gear with no markings. Plus they do not follow the militaries grooming and dress standards so they can blend in to local areas and also they barely ever wear a uniform on base. The FAST teams are in BDU's with their names, rank and American flag and maybe a Ranger tab on their arms. The Delta Unit was created during the Iranian Hostage Crisis to retake the Embassy and for counter terrorism operations. Hell, their Unit is more secretive then the SEALS. The FAST teams are elite US Marine Special Forces teams whole purpose is to recapture an Embassy or US facility on foreign soil or a Nuclear Navy Ship. How in the f**k is a blank uniform offensive, and frankly who cares! We were under attack on US soil. Also according to the former Supervisory Agent over the President's protection detail Daniel Bongino who has protected two Presidents, the Pope during his visit, numerous dignitaries and been assigned to Embassies before the President's visit on the advance team said they always have an emergency plans for situations like this and their backup plans have backup plans. So why did it happen? We know the answer. Why was nothing done? We also know the answer but what we don't know the answer to is why haven't people been held accountable? I was excited when Trey Gowdy was announced to head the commission, I figured he would get things done and hold people accountable. What the hell is the hold up? How can the Butcher of Benghazi be running for President? She was Secretary of State, she was in the War room with Obama and the Embassies fall under her jurisdiction. As Larry the Cable Guy says, "Get 'Er Done!" its like asking why 9/11 happened,, that had warnings as well and I believe those with the responsibility(including highly praised condoleeza) made the choices they thought best at the time its not about liberal or conservative,, just being human |
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The reason you are struggling is multifold, and primarily because you refuse to use actual FACTS to do your ruminating on this subject. You don't know what "liberal" means, for a start, nor have you established who has, and has not declared themselves to be one. If YOU assign such labels to other people, then you are simply playing self-adulation games with yourself. None of what you list as "facts" are actually facts, save the name of the city. Instead, you draw your information from propaganda lies made up by people who already dislike everyone involved, and who have no sense of personal honor about hte entire situation. In short, it's no surprise you "can't get your head around" any of it, because you have purposely made sure that none of it does make sense, by lying to yourself about pretty much everything. More Liberal logic right here folks! Both Obama and Hillary have described themselves as Liberal, Sanders as a Socialist but the Democrat here says I am labeling people?
Oh and by the way, the Bi-Partisan Congressional investigation did turn up that one of the things that held up troops was the debate on what they should wear. Meanwhile we have Government contractors (former US Military) with a stand down order who disobeyed that order to go in and save lives. It wasn't in their contract, they were ordered not to, they weren't getting paid to but did it because it was the right thing to do. well its good that those who were paid showed up within half hour of the attack |
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The reason you are struggling is multifold, and primarily because you refuse to use actual FACTS to do your ruminating on this subject. You don't know what "liberal" means, for a start, nor have you established who has, and has not declared themselves to be one. If YOU assign such labels to other people, then you are simply playing self-adulation games with yourself. None of what you list as "facts" are actually facts, save the name of the city. Instead, you draw your information from propaganda lies made up by people who already dislike everyone involved, and who have no sense of personal honor about hte entire situation. In short, it's no surprise you "can't get your head around" any of it, because you have purposely made sure that none of it does make sense, by lying to yourself about pretty much everything. If someone can't see that, their frickin head is in the sand up to their azz..... Remind me again, who was President when the last American Diplomat got killed in an attack. Mr. Peanut himself, Jimmy Carter. What a surprise! Another Democrat! not unless carter was president after bush http://www.politifact.com/embassyattacks/ why is this always about tearing down the 'liberals' or 'conservatives' instead of looking at the realistic fallibility of humans ,,period? |
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am I considered 'liberal' , because as a person who is black my whole life,, I don't believe the 'typical' black person is defined by their race, but by their environment a 'typical' impoverished white is different than a 'typical' privileged white same is true for any race and both black young men look like the sons of a black man,,,,,I doubt anyone with sense, let alone a magna *** laude grad would believe otherwise |
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The reason you are struggling is multifold, and primarily because you refuse to use actual FACTS to do your ruminating on this subject.
You don't know what "liberal" means, for a start, nor have you established who has, and has not declared themselves to be one. If YOU assign such labels to other people, then you are simply playing self-adulation games with yourself. None of what you list as "facts" are actually facts, save the name of the city. Instead, you draw your information from propaganda lies made up by people who already dislike everyone involved, and who have no sense of personal honor about hte entire situation. In short, it's no surprise you "can't get your head around" any of it, because you have purposely made sure that none of it does make sense, by lying to yourself about pretty much everything. Right. |
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am I considered 'liberal' , because as a person who is black my whole life,, I don't believe the 'typical' black person is defined by their race, but by their environment a 'typical' impoverished white is different than a 'typical' privileged white same is true for any race and both black young men look like the sons of a black man,,,,,I doubt anyone with sense, let alone a magna *** laude grad would believe otherwise no, you're considered a liberal because you're a democrat...and you side with them on most issues... being black is meaningless here... |
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am I considered 'liberal' , because as a person who is black my whole life,, I don't believe the 'typical' black person is defined by their race, but by their environment a 'typical' impoverished white is different than a 'typical' privileged white same is true for any race and both black young men look like the sons of a black man,,,,,I doubt anyone with sense, let alone a magna *** laude grad would believe otherwise no, you're considered a liberal because you're a democrat...and you side with them on most issues... being black is meaningless here... well there you have it , a liberal who believes no such nonsense as is espoused that 'liberals' believe regarding what black males look like or who is 'typical' |
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I still cant get my head around Liberal logic. I really cant. Maybe it's a mental illness they have? I have read and listened to all of this Benghazi stuff now that has come out and I am seriously scratching my head. First it's an internet video cause it (when Jeff Dunham has been making much worse ones for years with Achmed the Dead Terrorist), then Hillary emails her daughter it was Al-Qaeda then the whole stand down order.... WTF is that? WTF were they thinking. They had assets in the area, they had FAST teams and Delta operators in the planes ready to go and they were debating crap like how their uniforms might offend the Libyans?!?!?! First of all from the people I have talked to operators from Delta wear a plain uniform with not distinctive markings, basically just a plan BDU with no patches, flags etc. or black tactical gear with no markings. Plus they do not follow the militaries grooming and dress standards so they can blend in to local areas and also they barely ever wear a uniform on base. The FAST teams are in BDU's with their names, rank and American flag and maybe a Ranger tab on their arms. The Delta Unit was created during the Iranian Hostage Crisis to retake the Embassy and for counter terrorism operations. Hell, their Unit is more secretive then the SEALS. The FAST teams are elite US Marine Special Forces teams whole purpose is to recapture an Embassy or US facility on foreign soil or a Nuclear Navy Ship. How in the f**k is a blank uniform offensive, and frankly who cares! We were under attack on US soil. Also according to the former Supervisory Agent over the President's protection detail Daniel Bongino who has protected two Presidents, the Pope during his visit, numerous dignitaries and been assigned to Embassies before the President's visit on the advance team said they always have an emergency plans for situations like this and their backup plans have backup plans. So why did it happen? We know the answer. Why was nothing done? We also know the answer but what we don't know the answer to is why haven't people been held accountable? I was excited when Trey Gowdy was announced to head the commission, I figured he would get things done and hold people accountable. What the hell is the hold up? How can the Butcher of Benghazi be running for President? She was Secretary of State, she was in the War room with Obama and the Embassies fall under her jurisdiction. As Larry the Cable Guy says, "Get 'Er Done!" its like asking why 9/11 happened,, that had warnings as well and I believe those with the responsibility(including highly praised condoleeza) made the choices they thought best at the time its not about liberal or conservative,, just being human You just gave me a perfect example. When we were being hit we responded as it was happening. Troops were ordered to report, we had fighters jets in the air, given the command by Vice President Cheney without thought or hesitation to take down any airplane in our skies. We live in Nevada and I still remember seeing them that morning and throughout the day in the are flying out of NAS Fallon and the Nevada Air Guard Base. Now look at Benghazi, we had the planes on the runway with the FAST Teams and Delta Operators ready to go. They could have taken the compound. Would the Ambassador and the others still be alive? Probably, I don't know but at least we would have tried and we would have stood up to them and we would have kicked their A$$! We have a President, Vice President and at the time Secretary of State that couldn't give the order to respond because of F**KING UNIFORMS! We had military assets and contractors in that area, six of them who disobeyed orders and went in and tried to help. The first example is leadership. The second decision is Oh $hit! I better call my campaign manager, my spin doctors and see how we can spin this before we respond with military force. Maybe we should give them a stern warning on TV....... The results: 4 Americans, including an Ambassador killed. |
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The reason you are struggling is multifold, and primarily because you refuse to use actual FACTS to do your ruminating on this subject. You don't know what "liberal" means, for a start, nor have you established who has, and has not declared themselves to be one. If YOU assign such labels to other people, then you are simply playing self-adulation games with yourself. None of what you list as "facts" are actually facts, save the name of the city. Instead, you draw your information from propaganda lies made up by people who already dislike everyone involved, and who have no sense of personal honor about hte entire situation. In short, it's no surprise you "can't get your head around" any of it, because you have purposely made sure that none of it does make sense, by lying to yourself about pretty much everything. More Liberal logic right here folks! Both Obama and Hillary have described themselves as Liberal, Sanders as a Socialist but the Democrat here says I am labeling people?
Oh and by the way, the Bi-Partisan Congressional investigation did turn up that one of the things that held up troops was the debate on what they should wear. Meanwhile we have Government contractors (former US Military) with a stand down order who disobeyed that order to go in and save lives. It wasn't in their contract, they were ordered not to, they weren't getting paid to but did it because it was the right thing to do. well its good that those who were paid showed up within half hour of the attack Really? That's not what they were paid for! They were part of something totally different and they were given DIRECT ORDERS not to go help. That is like finding the most severe company policy for the company you work for now and breaking it and rubbing it in the companies face. Not only will you not get paid, but you will be fired. |
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