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well, I'm at a loss next to all the people here with such factual behind the scenes details of what happens with military ad overseas events,,
,,,yall can carry on with the bashing and back seat drivin,,, 
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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well, I'm at a loss next to all the people here with such factual behind the scenes details of what happens with military ad overseas events,, ,,,yall can carry on with the bashing and back seat drivin,,,
House Benghazi Report: Qaddafi’s Forces Saved American Lives After Obama’s Allies Fled The Republican majority’s report found that 35 Americans were saved not by a “quasi-governmental militia” as previous reports concluded, or even a group the U.S. saw as allies. Instead, the report determines that the Americans were saved by the “Libyan Military Intelligence,” a group composed of military officers under the Moammar Khaddafy regime, the Libyan dictator who the U.S. helped topple just one year earlier. The February 17 Martyr Brigade, “recommended by the Libyan Government and contractually obligated to provide security to the Mission Compound,” had fled, the report found. “In other words, some of the very individuals the United States helped remove from power during the Libyan revolution were the only Libyans that came to the assistance of the United States on the night of the Benghazi attacks,” the report states http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/06/28/house-benghazi-report-qaddafis-forces-saved-american-lives-after-obamas-allies-fled/ Perhaps if you bothered actually reading the report? But I should know better than to argue facts with a liberal..... |
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am I considered 'liberal' , because as a person who is black my whole life,, I don't believe the 'typical' black person is defined by their race, but by their environment a 'typical' impoverished white is different than a 'typical' privileged white same is true for any race and both black young men look like the sons of a black man,,,,,I doubt anyone with sense, let alone a magna *** laude grad would believe otherwise no, you're considered a liberal because you're a democrat...and you side with them on most issues... being black is meaningless here... well there you have it , a liberal who believes no such nonsense as is espoused that 'liberals' believe regarding what black males look like or who is 'typical' well, is it the white people or the black people bringing up race here? or is it another try to spin the topic in another direction... AGAIN?.... honestly? it wasn't any people,, it was you,, the first to mention race via a meme mentioning race yes, that is about race.. and, BTW, just where did the meme mention race? all involved are black, so just how was race an issue there? |
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am I considered 'liberal' , because as a person who is black my whole life,, I don't believe the 'typical' black person is defined by their race, but by their environment a 'typical' impoverished white is different than a 'typical' privileged white same is true for any race and both black young men look like the sons of a black man,,,,,I doubt anyone with sense, let alone a magna *** laude grad would believe otherwise no, you're considered a liberal because you're a democrat...and you side with them on most issues... being black is meaningless here... well there you have it , a liberal who believes no such nonsense as is espoused that 'liberals' believe regarding what black males look like or who is 'typical' well, is it the white people or the black people bringing up race here? or is it another try to spin the topic in another direction... AGAIN?.... honestly? it wasn't any people,, it was you,, the first to mention race via a meme mentioning race yes, that is about race.. and, BTW, just where did the meme mention race? all involved are black, so just how was race an issue there? the part that alleged what liberals believe about typical 'black' person,,,,did you read it before you copied and pasted? |
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am I considered 'liberal' , because as a person who is black my whole life,, I don't believe the 'typical' black person is defined by their race, but by their environment a 'typical' impoverished white is different than a 'typical' privileged white same is true for any race and both black young men look like the sons of a black man,,,,,I doubt anyone with sense, let alone a magna *** laude grad would believe otherwise no, you're considered a liberal because you're a democrat...and you side with them on most issues... being black is meaningless here... well there you have it , a liberal who believes no such nonsense as is espoused that 'liberals' believe regarding what black males look like or who is 'typical' well, is it the white people or the black people bringing up race here? or is it another try to spin the topic in another direction... AGAIN?.... honestly? it wasn't any people,, it was you,, the first to mention race via a meme mentioning race yes, that is about race.. and, BTW, just where did the meme mention race? all involved are black, so just how was race an issue there? the part that alleged what liberals believe about typical 'black' person,,,,did you read it before you copied and pasted? sometimes the truth just sucks, huh... obama calls a drug doing, high school dropout gangster thug his son, while the true black heros go unnoticed... good call on your part... 
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am I considered 'liberal' , because as a person who is black my whole life,, I don't believe the 'typical' black person is defined by their race, but by their environment a 'typical' impoverished white is different than a 'typical' privileged white same is true for any race and both black young men look like the sons of a black man,,,,,I doubt anyone with sense, let alone a magna *** laude grad would believe otherwise no, you're considered a liberal because you're a democrat...and you side with them on most issues... being black is meaningless here... well there you have it , a liberal who believes no such nonsense as is espoused that 'liberals' believe regarding what black males look like or who is 'typical' well, is it the white people or the black people bringing up race here? or is it another try to spin the topic in another direction... AGAIN?.... honestly? it wasn't any people,, it was you,, the first to mention race via a meme mentioning race yes, that is about race.. and, BTW, just where did the meme mention race? all involved are black, so just how was race an issue there? the part that alleged what liberals believe about typical 'black' person,,,,did you read it before you copied and pasted? sometimes the truth just sucks, huh... obama calls a drug doing, high school dropout gangster thug his son, while the true black heros go unnoticed... good call on your part...
he said he might look like his son, being that he was profiled for what he looked like,,,,no one looking knew what status of drug user or school student he was,, so that was completely irrelevant to what happened,,,, soldiers receive special recognition from society and community any time they die,, its part of the contract with the agreement to be in harms way for pay,,, point is, even people not in uniform have lives with value |
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I still cant get my head around Liberal logic. I really cant. Maybe it's a mental illness they have? I have read and listened to all of this Benghazi stuff now that has come out and I am seriously scratching my head. First it's an internet video cause it (when Jeff Dunham has been making much worse ones for years with Achmed the Dead Terrorist), then Hillary emails her daughter it was Al-Qaeda then the whole stand down order.... WTF is that? WTF were they thinking. They had assets in the area, they had FAST teams and Delta operators in the planes ready to go and they were debating crap like how their uniforms might offend the Libyans?!?!?! First of all from the people I have talked to operators from Delta wear a plain uniform with not distinctive markings, basically just a plan BDU with no patches, flags etc. or black tactical gear with no markings. Plus they do not follow the militaries grooming and dress standards so they can blend in to local areas and also they barely ever wear a uniform on base. The FAST teams are in BDU's with their names, rank and American flag and maybe a Ranger tab on their arms. The Delta Unit was created during the Iranian Hostage Crisis to retake the Embassy and for counter terrorism operations. Hell, their Unit is more secretive then the SEALS. The FAST teams are elite US Marine Special Forces teams whole purpose is to recapture an Embassy or US facility on foreign soil or a Nuclear Navy Ship. How in the f**k is a blank uniform offensive, and frankly who cares! We were under attack on US soil. Also according to the former Supervisory Agent over the President's protection detail Daniel Bongino who has protected two Presidents, the Pope during his visit, numerous dignitaries and been assigned to Embassies before the President's visit on the advance team said they always have an emergency plans for situations like this and their backup plans have backup plans. So why did it happen? We know the answer. Why was nothing done? We also know the answer but what we don't know the answer to is why haven't people been held accountable? I was excited when Trey Gowdy was announced to head the commission, I figured he would get things done and hold people accountable. What the hell is the hold up? How can the Butcher of Benghazi be running for President? She was Secretary of State, she was in the War room with Obama and the Embassies fall under her jurisdiction. As Larry the Cable Guy says, "Get 'Er Done!" 
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the only people who can be 'honest' are those who were there,,, the rest can read the multiple accounts all over the internet,, and pick narratives for our personal opinions It is an opinion forum after all but not a race issue We're pretty much stuck with the outcome of the committee, both sides spinning it differently, and opinion, because most who "were there" were placed under gag orders by our govt responsible for the outcome Actually one of the Marines that was there on contract has come forward, Mark "Oz" Geist. This man was on the ground and saw and fought first hand. |
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Benghazi wasn't about race. It was the result of failure of govt! Too many chiefs and not enough indians, too much policy and not enough action, PC and not logic! The order was given to act and govt spent 7 hours in debate on how to accomplish that.... 4 hours of which were spent on what the reinforcements should wear! It was factions of the former leader (Ghaddafi, who Hitlery decided must go) who saved our people in the end while our troops waited at the airport for the next clothing change order! Let's keep it honest and on topic here! Not saying it's a true depiction of events but you can watch "13 Hours" by Michael Bay here.... http://123movies.to/film/13-hours-the-secret-soldiers-of-benghazi-11473/ 13 Hours is pretty accurate, they did take some Hollywood liberties though just like Zero Dark Thirty is about 98% true and 2% Hollywood. |
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The current administration has made a few minor mistakes I'm just glad they got some things Correct. Like trading five Taliban detainees at Guantánamo, including two senior militant commanders said to be linked to operations that killed American and allied troops as well as implicated in murdering thousands of Shiites in Afghanistan for one of our nations hero's Bowe Bergdahl More Liberal Logic. See I'm starting to understand it. It is the COMPLETE OPPOSITE OF COMMON SENSE! 
Yup, how many soldiers died looking for him? Quite a few including one Delta Unit team leader. Then Obama releases the 5 terrorists for the traitor and literally sends in a large amount of Delta operators to make the exchange, making them potential targets as well. If I were one of those guys I would have said Bergdahl fell out of the helicopter and pushed his a$$out. |
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the only people who can be 'honest' are those who were there,,, the rest can read the multiple accounts all over the internet,, and pick narratives for our personal opinions It is an opinion forum after all but not a race issue We're pretty much stuck with the outcome of the committee, both sides spinning it differently, and opinion, because most who "were there" were placed under gag orders by our govt responsible for the outcome yes so much happens, who knows what really happens seemed like a difficult situation and if they were evacuating 32, that means they did save 28 foreign hostile lands cant be simple to navigate,,, It was not "us" who saved them and got them safely to the airport where our people were stuck in PC clothing limbo It was also Ghaddafi's troops who retrieved the body of our Ambassador for us as well I don't know who went, I wasn't there I can imagine it took several groups coordinating to make it happen  It was Ghaddafi's troops
ok they coordinated with us to get them to us custody so us could get them home my point, that the resources available were used based upon what could be done in that moment They coordinated with NOBODY! They once had an alliance with the US..... until Hitlery took out their leader, but were honorable enough not to let our small contingent of people die at the hands of an enemy force they had also fought against under Ghadaffi leadership The enemy of my enemy is my friend......... |
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am I considered 'liberal' , because as a person who is black my whole life,, I don't believe the 'typical' black person is defined by their race, but by their environment a 'typical' impoverished white is different than a 'typical' privileged white same is true for any race and both black young men look like the sons of a black man,,,,,I doubt anyone with sense, let alone a magna *** laude grad would believe otherwise no, you're considered a liberal because you're a democrat...and you side with them on most issues... being black is meaningless here... well there you have it , a liberal who believes no such nonsense as is espoused that 'liberals' believe regarding what black males look like or who is 'typical' well, is it the white people or the black people bringing up race here? or is it another try to spin the topic in another direction... AGAIN?.... honestly? it wasn't any people,, it was you,, the first to mention race via a meme mentioning race yes, that is about race.. and, BTW, just where did the meme mention race? all involved are black, so just how was race an issue there? the part that alleged what liberals believe about typical 'black' person,,,,did you read it before you copied and pasted? sometimes the truth just sucks, huh... obama calls a drug doing, high school dropout gangster thug his son, while the true black heros go unnoticed... good call on your part...
he said he might look like his son, being that he was profiled for what he looked like,,,,no one looking knew what status of drug user or school student he was,, so that was completely irrelevant to what happened,,,, soldiers receive special recognition from society and community any time they die,, its part of the contract with the agreement to be in harms way for pay,,, point is, even people not in uniform have lives with value So by your logic a rapist or a kiddie diddler's life has value? 
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I have read some pretty cool things about the Delta Unit that one of the founding members have published. I don't know if it's changed since the 1980's.
One example I read if a Unit member has an affair with another's wife or girlfriend it is a death sentence. It would go to trial before the whole team and at the end they draw a big circle in the ground and that's how they vote. If they throw their knives in the circle it's a guilty verdict, if they throw it out of the circle it's a not guilty verdict. I wonder how the carried out the sentence, maybe on a mission in combat accidents happen since these guys are deployed on a regular basis and more the regular troops. |
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I think that they are both confused,, doesn't make them bad people at all but it is frustrating that its dubbed as 'hateful' to say it about one but not the other |
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I think that they are both confused,, doesn't make them bad people at all but it is frustrating that its dubbed as 'hateful' to say it about one but not the other How is Jenner confused? If that's what makes him errr her happy then so be it. Doesn't make him confused. We all have our skeletons. Jenner just revealed to the public instead of hiding it from people anymore. I mean, you kind of had to now he was gay. A white man married to a Kardashian? It doesn't happen!
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I may have to eat that last remark since Bruce, err Caitlyn's daughter is dating Justin Beiber. It was announced by Kevin Hart at the roasting of Justin Beiber. She was also sitting at the table where the wives or family sit it wasn't part of the roast. I don't think Hart realized it at first because he started slamming Caitlin and the Kardashians, but that could have been all part of the act.
But in my own de-fence Beiber is now a white boy playing black according to Snoop Dogg, Shaq, Ludacis, Hart and Hannibal......... |
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am I considered 'liberal' , because as a person who is black my whole life,, I don't believe the 'typical' black person is defined by their race, but by their environment a 'typical' impoverished white is different than a 'typical' privileged white same is true for any race and both black young men look like the sons of a black man,,,,,I doubt anyone with sense, let alone a magna *** laude grad would believe otherwise no, you're considered a liberal because you're a democrat...and you side with them on most issues... being black is meaningless here... well there you have it , a liberal who believes no such nonsense as is espoused that 'liberals' believe regarding what black males look like or who is 'typical' well, is it the white people or the black people bringing up race here? or is it another try to spin the topic in another direction... AGAIN?.... honestly? it wasn't any people,, it was you,, the first to mention race via a meme mentioning race yes, that is about race.. and, BTW, just where did the meme mention race? all involved are black, so just how was race an issue there? the part that alleged what liberals believe about typical 'black' person,,,,did you read it before you copied and pasted? sometimes the truth just sucks, huh... obama calls a drug doing, high school dropout gangster thug his son, while the true black heros go unnoticed... good call on your part...
he said he might look like his son, being that he was profiled for what he looked like,,,,no one looking knew what status of drug user or school student he was,, so that was completely irrelevant to what happened,,,, soldiers receive special recognition from society and community any time they die,, its part of the contract with the agreement to be in harms way for pay,,, point is, even people not in uniform have lives with value So by your logic a rapist or a kiddie diddler's life has value?
not that its on topic or has to do with the black males in the meme but yes , everyones life has value |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Wed 07/06/16 10:15 AM
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I think that they are both confused,, doesn't make them bad people at all but it is frustrating that its dubbed as 'hateful' to say it about one but not the other How is Jenner confused? If that's what makes him errr her happy then so be it. Doesn't make him confused. We all have our skeletons. Jenner just revealed to the public instead of hiding it from people anymore. I mean, you kind of had to now he was gay. A white man married to a Kardashian? It doesn't happen!
he is no more or less confused than the other person I mean if someone can father children and believe they are a woman,, though in every species the one who carries the seed is the MALE then why cant someone whose ancestry is not African consider themselves black,, even though the definition of black is having primary ancestry in AFrica I mean, if people are 'happy' they obviously cant also be 'confused',,, |
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I think that they are both confused,, doesn't make them bad people at all but it is frustrating that its dubbed as 'hateful' to say it about one but not the other How is Jenner confused? If that's what makes him errr her happy then so be it. Doesn't make him confused. We all have our skeletons. Jenner just revealed to the public instead of hiding it from people anymore. I mean, you kind of had to now he was gay. A white man married to a Kardashian? It doesn't happen!
he is no more or less confused than the other person I mean if someone can father children and believe they are a woman,, though in every species the one who carries the seed is the MALE then why cant someone whose ancestry is not African consider themselves black,, even though the definition of black is having primary ancestry in AFrica I mean, if people are 'happy' they obviously cant also be 'confused',,, Depends.... sometimes confusion and ignorance is bliss..... When in doubt ask a liberal
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