Topic: Gun Control?, what would be a most reasonable so
Conrad_73's photo
Tue 06/14/16 10:49 AM



you cant do anything really
if a madman wants to kill innocent people , they will find a way
killers dont need guns to kill people
Timothy McVeigh used fertilizer
9-11 terrorists used box cutters and plans
the Nazis used cyanide gas
taking guns from innocent people will not protect innocent people
the problem is not guns
(just read that on facebook)

<shrug>
as per you Que , i have no idea
people change so what ever test you come up with that they could pass today does not mean they are the same person tomorrow

but i have noticed that all most all these attacks are done in gun free zones
<shrug>

But the idea that arming everyone would lead to peace on Earth, has already been proven a lie, countless times.




In YOUR mind perhaps...

The opposite of your statement is more true than not. The majority of cities with extensive gun control laws have the highest incidents of gun crimes. Murder, drive by shootings, robberies, occur more frequently in cities like LA, NYC, Chicago, Washington, D.C..

My belief is best described by author Robert A. Heinlein - An armed society is a polite society.

Kennesaw,Georgia.

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Tue 06/14/16 10:58 AM

I live in Bandon, Oregon now. Even tho Oregon's metro areas have gone liberal (where the majority of voters live and work) come into the areas like mine and start spouting liberal garbage...... you could be run out of town..... or worse.

Everyone in this area is like.....

The Pentagon announced today the formation of a new 500 man elite fighting unit

Called the US REDNECK SPECIAL FORCES (USRSF), these good ole boys from North Carolina, Kentucky, West Virginia, Mississippi, Missouri, Arkansas, Alabama, Georgia, Texas and Tennessee, will be dropped into Iraq and Syria and will be given the following facts about Terrorists:

1. The season opened today.
2. There is no limit.
3. They taste just like chicken.
4. They don't like beer, pickups, country music or Jesus.
5. They are DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE for the death of Dale Earnhardt.

This mess in Middle East should be over in about a week.

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Tue 06/14/16 11:02 AM


I live in Bandon, Oregon now. Even tho Oregon's metro areas have gone liberal (where the majority of voters live and work) come into the areas like mine and start spouting liberal garbage...... you could be run out of town..... or worse.

Everyone in this area is like.....

The Pentagon announced today the formation of a new 500 man elite fighting unit

Called the US REDNECK SPECIAL FORCES (USRSF), these good ole boys from North Carolina, Kentucky, West Virginia, Mississippi, Missouri, Arkansas, Alabama, Georgia, Texas and Tennessee, will be dropped into Iraq and Syria and will be given the following facts about Terrorists:

1. The season opened today.
2. There is no limit.
3. They taste just like chicken.
4. They don't like beer, pickups, country music or Jesus.
5. They are DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE for the death of Dale Earnhardt.

This mess in Middle East should be over in about a week.
laugh

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Tue 06/14/16 11:03 AM



What are your views?, do you think we need better and longer background checks?, or what in your estimation would solve the many mass killings here in our united states?

Please let those Victims get buried before you start talking about something you apparently do not know much about!
Good advice for Hillary....

"“We did have an assault weapons ban for 10 years, and I think it should be reinstated,” she said."
http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/13/hillary-clinton-calls-reinstituting-assault-weapon/

....and Blind Harry Reid?

""Reid: We will force gun control vote''
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/harry-reid-we-will-force-gun-control-vote/article/2593774


"Lets do NOTHING AT ALL to defend against terrorists using our own freedoms to kill us," isn't exactly a brainy or honorable way to go.
Neither is "Let's do ANYTHING....."


The guy who killed all those people in Florida, had been investigated twice by the FBI for suspected terrorist planning, and was already on the do-not-fly list.
Wasn't he taken OFF the watch list AFTER he was cleared twice by the FBI? No Matter....do you want laws that prohibit rights of those not convicted of crimes? OK... "Hey FBI, IgorFrankensteen called me a doo doo head....put him on the list please."

And BTW...add Obama to those wanting to reinstate the 'assault weapons' ban and in favor of no due process for American citizens. From his rant today....


"It is absolutely true, we cannot prevent every tragedy. But we know that consistent with the Second Amendment, there are common sense steps that could reduce gun violence and could reduce the lethality of somebody who intends to do other people harm. We should give ATF the resources they need to enforce the gun laws that we already have.
People with possible ties to terrorism, who are not allowed on a plane should not be allowed to buy a gun. Enough talking about being tough on terrorism. Actually be tough on terrorism and stop making it easy as possible for terrorists to buy assault weapons.
Reinstate the assault weapons ban, make it harder for terrorists to use these weapons to kill us.""
http://time.com/4368733/barack-obama-donald-trump-muslim-ban-orlando-shooting/

And Trump is in his head....and Hillary's too over the "radical Islam" wording. He damn near had a stroke in the last part of that linked speech. SumbItch has never used "radical Islam" until now....along with Hillary....AFTER Trump called them out Sunday.

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Tue 06/14/16 11:20 AM

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Tue 06/14/16 11:05 PM
Gun Control?, what would be a most reasonable so(olution?)

Applying reason, rather than BS and hypocrisy, to the actual problems?

"From 2002 to 2012, in constant 2012 U.S. dollar terms,the global annual value of international arms transfer deliveries
appears to have risen by about 103%...During the period,
about 78% of the world arms trade, by value, appears to have been
supplied by the United States..."

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/251075.pdf

Obama said in his speech:
"we have to make it harder for people who want to kill americans to get their hands on weapons of war that let them kill innocents"
https://youtu.be/VN49vpyOhB0

That's right! Keep those arms out of the hands of the people that want to kill us!
Better make sure only the right people get arms!
We need a list for that! Who is getting what.

Oh wait...here's one:
http://www.pmddtc.state.gov/reports/documents/rpt655-FY15.pdf

How much is going to the middle east?
Billions of dollars worth of "weapons of war that let them kill innocents."


If you want to even begin to have a "gun control" conversation, you can't talk out of both sides of your mouth.

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Wed 06/15/16 02:58 AM
it is about the A.M.assault rife and only limited around no one can jugde that the civiliance of U.S.A will no longer carrying any sidarm or tradtional rifes will you? :thumbsup:

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Wed 06/15/16 03:06 AM

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Wed 06/15/16 06:06 AM

it is about the A.M.assault rife and only limited around no one can jugde that the civiliance of U.S.A will no longer carrying any sidarm or tradtional rifes will you? :thumbsup:

What Assaultrifles,Mister,AR stands for ArmaLiteRifle.

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Thu 06/16/16 08:21 AM

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Thu 06/16/16 09:13 AM

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Sat 06/18/16 02:23 PM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Sat 06/18/16 02:32 PM

Loretta Lynch Gave This Jaw-Dropping Response To The Orlando Terror Attack

The Obama administration lives by the motto “never let a crisis go to waste”.

That was never more apparent than after the Orlando terror attack where at least 50 Americans were killed and at least 50 more were wounded in the worst attack on our soil since 9/11.

Attorney General Loretta Lynch’s response politicized the tragedy and enraged Americans.

Rather than address the fact that the shooting was an act of Islamic terror, the Obama administration zeroed in on gun control.

Politico reports:

“Attorney General Loretta Lynch called Tuesday for a “hard discussion” about U.S. gun laws that allow people to purchase weapons like the assault rifle used in the massacre at an LGBT nightclub in Orlando early Sunday.

“We need to have the hard discussion and talk about gun laws that allow an individual to legally purchase weapons that facilitate mass killing. We have to have those hard discussions,” Lynch said at a White House conference on women’s issues.

Lynch’s remarks came at her first public appearance since the deadly Orlando shooting. She was on a trip to China for a cybersecurity summit when the violence broke out. The attorney general quickly cut the trip short and returned to the U.S.

In her speech Tuesday, Lynch did not dwell on the gun control issue and she did not offer specific proposals, but her comments echoed similar calls from President Barack Obama and Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson.”

Since Obama’s push for his national gun registration scheme failed in 2013, his administration has been hunting around for the opportunity to kick-start legislation to chip away at the Second Amendment.

But in this case, no amount of gun control legislation would have stopped the terrorist.

The shooter, Omar Mir Seddique Mateen, was finger printed and passed a background check for his job as a security guard.

All of his weapons were purchased legally.

And the shooting at Pulse nightclub took place in a “Gun Free Zone”.

In addition to using the terror attack to push their gun control agenda, the Obama administration may be trying to distract from their own failures which allowed the terrorist to roam free despite being a red flag to federal authorities.

Politico reports:

Questions have already been raised about the FBI’s prior interactions with the shooter, Omar Mateen, who was killed during the early-morning attack that claimed 49 other lives and left dozens more injured. The FBI interviewed Mateen three times and subjected him to a 10-month investigation that included use of a confidential informant and interception of his communications, but closed the probe into him in 2014.

The Obama administration had Mateen in their sights but dropped the case.

How and why did this happen?

Was it political correctness run amok?

Or was the federal government too busy spying on Americans to focus their resources on high-level targets?

Whatever the answer is, it does not reflect well on the Obama administration’s priorities.

And rather than address their own intelligence failures as well as the threat of radical Islamic terrorism, Obama and his subordinates are using this tragedy as an excuse to push gun control.

http://www.americanpatriotdaily.com/latest/loretta-lynch-gave-this-jaw-dropping-response-to-the-orlando-terror-attack/

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Sat 06/18/16 02:28 PM
Stand Down Orders Galore!

msharmony's photo
Sat 06/18/16 02:38 PM




is the gay parade a gun free zone?

do people truly believe mass killers, are researching whether some place is a gun free zone before choosing their target?



msharmony's photo
Sat 06/18/16 02:42 PM
assuming that wanting to do something to better regulate access to guns is the equivalent of assuming all gun owners are terrible and violent

what about gun owners and military who are in favor of regulations being enforced? do you suppose they believe themselves to be terrible and violent?

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Sat 06/18/16 02:43 PM





is the gay parade a gun free zone?

do people truly believe mass killers, are researching whether some place is a gun free zone before choosing their target?





the smart ones would... why wouldn't they?

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Sat 06/18/16 02:43 PM
assuming that wanting to do something to better regulate access to guns is the equivalent of assuming all gun owners are terrible and violent

what about gun owners and military who are in favor of regulations being enforced? do you suppose they believe themselves to be terrible and violent?

mightymoe's photo
Sat 06/18/16 02:53 PM

assuming that wanting to do something to better regulate access to guns is the equivalent of assuming all gun owners are terrible and violent

what about gun owners and military who are in favor of regulations being enforced? do you suppose they believe themselves to be terrible and violent?


i'm all for some/most being enforced... but adding new ones makes no sense to me... all automatic weapons are illegal, i agree with that, the general public doesn't need full autos, nor do they need RPGs...

but when the liberals are ignoring the real problems, such as terrorists and the anti depressant meds most of these people are on, and continue to blame inanimate objects, just tells me they are not looking out for the people, but themselves...

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Sat 06/18/16 02:54 PM






is the gay parade a gun free zone?

do people truly believe mass killers, are researching whether some place is a gun free zone before choosing their target?





the smart ones would... why wouldn't they?



smart mass killer? that's why most end up dead ,, right?

brilliantfrustrated

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Sat 06/18/16 02:56 PM


assuming that wanting to do something to better regulate access to guns is the equivalent of assuming all gun owners are terrible and violent

what about gun owners and military who are in favor of regulations being enforced? do you suppose they believe themselves to be terrible and violent?


i'm all for some/most being enforced... but adding new ones makes no sense to me... all automatic weapons are illegal, i agree with that, the general public doesn't need full autos, nor do they need RPGs...

but when the liberals are ignoring the real problems, such as terrorists and the anti depressant meds most of these people are on, and continue to blame inanimate objects, just tells me they are not looking out for the people, but themselves...



ignoring political labels, I see plenty of responsibility and I see the all being addressed, except drugs

the guns in the wrong hands are a problem,, every bit as much as those hands being on drugs or being terrorists


'blame' is a losing game,, but that isn't the same as discussing the many levels of 'responsibility' and trying to address solutions at those levels