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and he (obarry) blamed the American people as well... 
when did isis attack the US and the president blamed americans? cause, America has struck isis over 9000 times so far,,,lol two days ago... 
an individual attacked gay club goers and was killed, two days ago I asked when did "ISIS' attack? When the shooter called called 911 and proclaimed it. |
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and he (obarry) blamed the American people as well...
when did isis attack the US and the president blamed americans? cause, America has struck isis over 9000 times so far,,,lol two days ago...
an individual attacked gay club goers and was killed, two days ago I asked when did "ISIS' attack? it's already been confirmed he did it in ISIS's name, and they claimed responsibility for it... that koolade is just tasting better and better, huh... wake up, see the real world instead of the dream world you live in... obarry lies about everything... |
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and he (obarry) blamed the American people as well...
when did isis attack the US and the president blamed americans? cause, America has struck isis over 9000 times so far,,,lol two days ago...
an individual attacked gay club goers and was killed, two days ago I asked when did "ISIS' attack? it's already been confirmed he did it in ISIS's name, and they claimed responsibility for it... that koolade is just tasting better and better, huh... wake up, see the real world instead of the dream world you live in... obarry lies about everything... they didn't claim responsibility, they claimed he was an isis militant,,and he acted alone so the claims don't refute the facts,, an individual caused death and the consequences were his own death ,,and we continue to strike isis regularly,, so whats the problem? |
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and he (obarry) blamed the American people as well...
when did isis attack the US and the president blamed americans? cause, America has struck isis over 9000 times so far,,,lol two days ago...
an individual attacked gay club goers and was killed, two days ago I asked when did "ISIS' attack? it's already been confirmed he did it in ISIS's name, and they claimed responsibility for it... that koolade is just tasting better and better, huh... wake up, see the real world instead of the dream world you live in... obarry lies about everything... they didn't claim responsibility, they claimed he was an isis militant,,and he acted alone so the claims don't refute the facts,, an individual caused death and the consequences were his own death ,,and we continue to strike isis regularly,, so whats the problem? liberals... they are the problem... they are getting worse then ISIS... |
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and he (obarry) blamed the American people as well...
when did isis attack the US and the president blamed americans? cause, America has struck isis over 9000 times so far,,,lol two days ago...
an individual attacked gay club goers and was killed, two days ago I asked when did "ISIS' attack? it's already been confirmed he did it in ISIS's name, and they claimed responsibility for it... that koolade is just tasting better and better, huh... wake up, see the real world instead of the dream world you live in... obarry lies about everything... they didn't claim responsibility, they claimed he was an isis militant,,and he acted alone so the claims don't refute the facts,, an individual caused death and the consequences were his own death ,,and we continue to strike isis regularly,, so whats the problem? why do you try soo hard to poke holes in Muslims committing terroristic things.. why is that? I don't poke holes, I point out that the muslim is not the only individual who does terroristic things,,, so terror and muslim don't continue to be spun as synonymous |
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Obama: ‘We’ are to blame, not Islamic terrorism, for massacre http://nypost.com/2016/06/12/obama-says-we-are-to-blame-not-islamic-terrorism-for-orlando-massacre/ This quote, by our president, SPOKEN IN THE THIRD PERSON, is the first true thing he has uttered since before he took office as president. |
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inconsistencies,,, do muslims yell 'god is great'? or 'allah' does a citizen who pledges allegiance to a terrorist ideal or group automatically commit terrorism or is it expected that a terrorist act involves someone more than allegiant but actually a member of? did the Swedish boy with a Nazi manifesto who killed those kids a while back get charged with 'terrorism'? ( I honestly do not remember) is a crime against a group for their lifestyle an act of terrorism or a hate crime? can it be both, or do we have to choose one? does it matter if one kills gay people because they were brought up christan to belive it wrong or because they were brought up believing someone or something else in believing it was wrong? what now? do we use a mass shooting to unite in fear/hatred of muslims,, or in fear/hatred of guns? I do believe a larger percent of mass shootings involve guns than muslims though,,, And what about the Muslims chopping off peoples heads..in the name of their God... does that fall under " well, boys will be boys" in your world. no more than Christians beating or cheating on their wives,,, it falls under 'humans will by hypcorites/sinner,,, you name it' and every religion has humans at its core,, good ones, bad ones, sane ones, and insane ones How can You justify "Christians beating or cheating on their wives..." WITH Muslims chopping off peoples heads in the mame of their religion? O.o Seriously disjointed thinking... no, not at all if the argument is peoples individual actions are the fault of their religion its right on point extremists are called extremists because they aren't the norm they are individuals who act outside of the norm for some political or social gains Beating and cheating do not compare to beheading. if it leads to death, it does' dead is dead,,,people mourn and miss their loved ones You've changed the premise of your argument to justify your feelings. In the beginning statement you made, you alledged Christians beating and cheating were equivalent to Muslim beheadings. And now, you have ammended your statement to include when such beatings lead to death. You should learn to make a statement and stick to it. Imho. I am sticking to it an individual professing religion and doing something harmful or even fatal to others is indicative of something needing to be addressed in that individual , not proof of the religion being a threat |
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Edited by
eldarbeast
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Tue 06/14/16 01:07 PM
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and he (obarry) blamed the American people as well...
when did isis attack the US and the president blamed americans? cause, America has struck isis over 9000 times so far,,,lol two days ago...
an individual attacked gay club goers and was killed, two days ago I asked when did "ISIS' attack? it's already been confirmed he did it in ISIS's name, and they claimed responsibility for it... that koolade is just tasting better and better, huh... wake up, see the real world instead of the dream world you live in... obarry lies about everything... they didn't claim responsibility, they claimed he was an isis militant,,and he acted alone so the claims don't refute the facts,, an individual caused death and the consequences were his own death ,,and we continue to strike isis regularly,, so whats the problem? Your misinterpretation of what took place - the continuation of jihad against the rest of the world started by Muhhammid in 622 CE. |
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inconsistencies,,, do muslims yell 'god is great'? or 'allah' does a citizen who pledges allegiance to a terrorist ideal or group automatically commit terrorism or is it expected that a terrorist act involves someone more than allegiant but actually a member of? did the Swedish boy with a Nazi manifesto who killed those kids a while back get charged with 'terrorism'? ( I honestly do not remember) is a crime against a group for their lifestyle an act of terrorism or a hate crime? can it be both, or do we have to choose one? does it matter if one kills gay people because they were brought up christan to belive it wrong or because they were brought up believing someone or something else in believing it was wrong? what now? do we use a mass shooting to unite in fear/hatred of muslims,, or in fear/hatred of guns? I do believe a larger percent of mass shootings involve guns than muslims though,,, And what about the Muslims chopping off peoples heads..in the name of their God... does that fall under " well, boys will be boys" in your world. no more than Christians beating or cheating on their wives,,, it falls under 'humans will by hypcorites/sinner,,, you name it' and every religion has humans at its core,, good ones, bad ones, sane ones, and insane ones How can You justify "Christians beating or cheating on their wives..." WITH Muslims chopping off peoples heads in the mame of their religion? O.o Seriously disjointed thinking... no, not at all if the argument is peoples individual actions are the fault of their religion its right on point extremists are called extremists because they aren't the norm they are individuals who act outside of the norm for some political or social gains You mean like a POTUS or nominee blaming guns for the actions of people? Or American citizens for the actions of terrorists? Obama: ‘We’ are to blame, not Islamic terrorism, for massacre http://nypost.com/2016/06/12/obama-says-we-are-to-blame-not-islamic-terrorism-for-orlando-massacre/ people, humans, kill humans 'we' are humans,, 'we' are to blame as humans for disregarding human life and people with guns commit mass shootings, so caution where guns are concerned is also logical and rational No, it's not. Before 1990, mass shootings were a rare thing. Several changes took place in that year that have enabled massacres to occur: The creation of gun free zones The restriction upon the right of self defense The adoption of the policy of widespread use of psychotropic medicines designed for adults to be used on children These three main events have contrihuted more to mass shootings than anytime before 1990. Semi-automatic firearms have been with the population for nearly 90 years at that point. And, with the exception of adult criminal use for personal gain, rarely used to kill more than one person. well,, correlations abound''' I do find logic in the correlation between mental illness, in the Reagan era many facilities for those individuals were closed and outpatient drug care took over and most all the assailants have a history of mental illness' there is no correlation in my mind to gun free zones, as there is no evidence most are aware of care where they are and many plan to die anyway,, so they wouldn't care,,,death by a cops gun or citizens,, no difference we did peak in the 90s and have been coming down since though the death toll in each incident is certainly increased with weapons that can fire so many rounds per second,,, |
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Edited by
eldarbeast
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Tue 06/14/16 01:13 PM
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Not so much the ability to fire many rounds as ability of the shooter to reload unimpeded by people unable to defend themselves.
Especially in the Orlando shooting. |
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Not so much the ability to fire many rounds as ability of the shooter to reload unimpeded by people able to defend themselves. Especially in the Orlando shooting. even without reloading, the potential damage in the number of rounds one can fire is alarming and sadly in the hands of disturbed individuals imagine a room full of people with that ability,, not sure the numbers harmed or killed would change much really,,, |
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Edited by
eldarbeast
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Tue 06/14/16 01:21 PM
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Such events have taken place - they just aren't reportedby the national medias as these stories confict with their desires to disarm the American public.
Slaves are easier to control when they lack the ability to defend themselves. Why do you, msharmony, desire to be a slave...? |
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Such events have taken place - they just aren't reportedby the national medias as these stories confict with their desires to disarm the American public. Slaves are easier to control when they lack the ability to defend themselves. Why do you, msharmony, desire to be a slave...? lol,,seriously? 
Ive lived nearly half a century,, survived without ever owning a gun
the only 'defense' against a gun is being a faster draw,, a skill I find about as necessary as wearing rubber shoes to avoid the potential of a lightning strike |
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http://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/wftv-arrest-expected-in-orlando-nightclub-mass-shooting/340918422/
http://abcnews.go.com/US/gunmans-wife-talk-attack-officials/story?id=39841580/ http://wreg.com/2016/06/14/report-wife-of-orlando-terrorist-may-have-known-of-attack-plan/ http://www.mediaite.com/uncategorized/nbc-killers-wife-knew-about-orlando-shooting-tried-to-talk-him-out-of-it/ |
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getting more and more interesting!
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and he (obarry) blamed the American people as well...
when did isis attack the US and the president blamed americans? cause, America has struck isis over 9000 times so far,,,lol two days ago...
an individual attacked gay club goers and was killed, two days ago I asked when did "ISIS' attack? it's already been confirmed he did it in ISIS's name, and they claimed responsibility for it... that koolade is just tasting better and better, huh... wake up, see the real world instead of the dream world you live in... obarry lies about everything... they didn't claim responsibility, they claimed he was an isis militant,,and he acted alone so the claims don't refute the facts,, an individual caused death and the consequences were his own death ,,and we continue to strike isis regularly,, so whats the problem? why do you try soo hard to poke holes in Muslims committing terroristic things.. why is that? I don't poke holes, I point out that the muslim is not the only individual who does terroristic things,,, so terror and muslim don't continue to be spun as synonymous well.. little too late for that... they already are... with good reason. They earned it... but you keep believing their not... its entertaining. no,sad that others embrace hatred and bigotry so easily he is no more indicative that islam is synonymous with terror than bundy is that white male is synonymous with serial killer |
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Edited by
eldarbeast
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Tue 06/14/16 02:28 PM
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Such events have taken place - they just aren't reportedby the national medias as these stories confict with their desires to disarm the American public. Slaves are easier to control when they lack the ability to defend themselves. Why do you, msharmony, desire to be a slave...? lol,,seriously?
Ive lived nearly half a century,, survived without ever owning a gun
the only 'defense' against a gun is being a faster draw,, a skill I find about as necessary as wearing rubber shoes to avoid the potential of a lightning strike I have lived 60 years, lived in nines States, visited 37 States and eleven countries in the Middle East, Europe and North Africa. I have had several instances where I have had to produce my firearm to defend my life and property here in the States, and have been grateful to be able too. Do not give away my Rights because you feel the need to salve your 'guilt' for the actions of others. PS Reports are now surfacing that people being shot at by the Orlando shooter just stood there waiting to be shot while he reloaded. Having been on the sharp end of the stick, I definitely would have taken the battle to him since my life was already forfeit. |
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interesting how the Victims,and intended Victims suddenly become the Haters!
What an inversion of Morality! 
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Such events have taken place - they just aren't reportedby the national medias as these stories confict with their desires to disarm the American public. Slaves are easier to control when they lack the ability to defend themselves. Why do you, msharmony, desire to be a slave...? lol,,seriously?
Ive lived nearly half a century,, survived without ever owning a gun
the only 'defense' against a gun is being a faster draw,, a skill I find about as necessary as wearing rubber shoes to avoid the potential of a lightning strike Bully for you. I have lived 60 years, lived in nines States, visited 37 States and eleven countries in the Middle East, Europe and North Africa. I have had several instances where I have had to produce my firearm to defend my life and property here in the States, and have been grateful to be able too. Do not give away my Rights because you feel the need to salve your 'guilt' for the actions of others. PS Reports are now surfacing that people being shot at by the Orlando shooter just stood there waiting to be shot while he reloaded. Having been on the sharp end of the stick, I definitely would have taken the battle to him since my life was already forfeit. when did I post anything about taking your right? my response is to the allegation of my 'enslavement' merely by choosing to not have a gun personally and for supporting caution in who is roaming the streets with what,,, |
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