I hear ya and I agree :)

Yes. Yes. Great solution! Make sure they don't have any money anymore! Then what are they supposed to do? Sell their organs to survive?
Maybe get a decent well-fare system in place so people don't have to resort to such drastic measures.

That's quite the narrow minded view of prostitutes and their clients ...
It's not all vulgar men, most are regular Joes (no pun intended), businessmen, singles or husbands. Most prostitutes that work in Amsterdam refuse to 'service' the a-holes and/or dirty men. They can choose who they work with or not. I happened to be reading an article written by a prostitute a few days ago. She said that they mostly refuse Moroccans, as they tend to get violent and aggressive. I guess that culture still has little respect for women, and esp women that have sex for money. So they refuse to work with them.
Of course they need X amount of clients to pay the rent (for their workroom to begin with) and of course money to make a living. But most haven't got a pimp, nor are they forced by anyone to do the work.
And what's wrong with it, really? There's always a demand for prostitutes, always has been, and likely will be for a long time to come.
As long as there's demand, there'll be supply. As long as women have the freedom to choose that profession, nothing wrong with it. One of the worst things they have to live with, is the social judgement.

Maybe many problems with it would be resolved if it was legalized like it is over here.
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that would be a psychological break..what they have to do in order to justify what they allow others to do to their bodies each day

we call it the second oldest profession for a reason do we not?
motherhood being the first or did I get that in the wrong order


what is the difference between


1. marrying off girls at very young ages to men who are much older than they are...many societies do this including the United States in the not so distant past
2. dating a beautiful young woman and showering her with gifts such as a shiny sports car, jewlery, and a lush apartment
3. paying money for a dating service to find an attractive date for the weekend you in town for a conference
4. paying for a escort service for the same reasons
5. paying for an upscale call girl
6. picking up a hooker on the corner




Judeo-Christian beliefs and social mores play a part in how we judge one as being ok and another as being a wrong

what is the age of consent these days...

many prostitutes begin when they are young

oh and parental consent is given in marrying off the young daughters


cripes who was that rock and roller who married his young cousin and that was in the 50's


always been like this here...except maybe in Nevada

all the good Christian womenfolk would get together and drive out the saloon girls or the girls working out on the chicken ranch

get those Jezebels, harlots and loose women out of our town and away from our menfolk...those evil and foul temptresses of the devil

I'll repeat myself again but make it a little clearer. I quoted T because she described the unfortunate prostitutes who have hit hard times.
Again, I think any man who uses these unfortunate souls is horrible and has something sick going on in their minds.
Organized or controlled prostitution like you have in Amsterdam is one thing, the abuse victim or drug addict or runaway probably doesn't have much choice over the sickos they attract.

Age of consent varies from country to country and in some places on the age of the consenting parties.In some places the age of consent is lowered if parental approval is forthcoming.

I said the transactions are GENERALLY between consulting adults

Parental consent doesn't negate my comment that "the young daughters have little or no say in the transaction"

The singer was Jerry Lee Lewis (cousin of the well known Jimmy Swaggart) and I believe the story is his cousin was 15 years old at the time of their marriage.

oh ya that's who it was




argument can be made...if drugs/alcohol is consumed in order to work up the nerve or numb ya to what you are about to do...


are you able to give consent?

prostitution and porn is prolific with both

of course so are bars in a college town on a friday night



I am probably not the one to argue this one OP
I will point out why at least in the US
we consider it immoral/moral in first place

and then I will point out two points of view of law enforcement

1. get rid of the temptation to save the good men of our community
2. nail the bastages that are out there cheating on the little woman at home

the christan value pertaining to sex, as I learned it, is that sex outside of marriage is sin


it doesn't teach a difference between sex that is free or paid for


its worldly beliefs that have justified sex as 'love' and necessity

sex for love,,yes,, sex for entertainment, yes,,,, sex for fulfillment, yes,,,

sex for money,,,,shame on you

I find it a silly double standard too,,,,,but I consider it more rooted in the world than the bible

The sex industry is too beneficial to too many stakeholders to expect it to be shut down.

We often think of the baser elements of society enjoying the bounty of the sexual underworld, but some of the most elite people in sociiety enjoy the gratification afforded by these practices....including Politicians, Judicial Magistrates, high flighing socialites and celebities.

And as mentiined previously, the sex industry is extensive in scope , ranging from hookers on the streets, to strippers, to porn practitioners, to escort services ,to sexual massage parlours etc

And because so many parties profit directly and indirectly both sexually and financially, even if they outlaw it , the contraband practice of it would probably grow by leaps and bounds

I don't know but if I could hire people with work ethics as good as prostitutes I would lol.. they are up early in the morning turning tricks..
With businessmen going into the office.. they work through their lunch hour... and you can find them often staying late at night... now that's dedication to the job..yup

It would be very difficult to make me believe that any person, we forget that there are male prostitutes too, compromises their body without a significant amount of self hatred and brainwashing to the negative that their body/intimacy is only a tool to convert for money with the degraded value society gives those who are sex workers. Many are indoctrinated at a very young age.

And just because a few here and there Harold the "perks" and tell you how much fun or that it means nothing there are thousands that tell how much it makes their lives compromised.

When you ask someone to degrade themselves the likely hood that they will become desensitized to more and more violence and abuse is just too much to ignore.

The number of people who escape prostitution one way or another, even if they just age out, that have serious physical and emotional health issues that manifest it self years to come. Often at taxpayer's expense. Even if they over come active addictions to lovely things like financial dependency, drugs, massive abuse of alcohol, and sex addiction. We are not even mentioning the wear and tear injuries like cancer, displaced bladder, **** complications, and even stress injuries to the back and pelvis structure to name only a few not STD related.

And prostitute sex is not a victimless crime because it is rarely something that stays secret and it hurts partners even if it is to just make current or future partners to live in fear of consequences that can lay dormant for months and years or question their adequacy to "compete". It is also shameful to some to be married to someone who has this kind of sexual history because many women do consider it a front to women in general and deviant behavior.

This is yet another subject area that suffers from a combination of massive oversimplification and prejudice, all supported by thousands of years of people in power refusing to deal with it in any direct and honest way.

Myths and falsehoods associated with Prostitution and with porn include, but are not limited to:

* that any woman who voluntarily becomes a prostitute has mental or emotional issues driving her to it;

* that both prostitution and porn are "easy" jobs to have, because all you have to do is say okay;

* that all or most men are suckers for sex to the point where it doesn't matter who "gives" it to them;

* that most non-prostitute women are directly to blame for why some men buy prostitutes time;

* that the only difference between being a prostitute and being a golddigger is how long the person stays with the person paying them;

* that all of one group or the other, that is the prostitutes or the people paying them, are the "bad people," while the otehr group is just the "victims;"

* that consensual sex for money or other value is always a victimless crime;

* that that consensual sex for money or other value is always a crime with a victim;

* that prostitution always destroys the fabric of any society which allows it;

* that no one would get married and behave responsibly if prostitution were legal everywhere;

* that no one actually LIKES being a prostitute;

* that all porn is demeaning to all human beings, especially to the people making it;

* that there's no harm ever suffered from porn or prostitution with consenting adults;

* that the right way to deal with any and all concerns about porn and prostitution is physical punishment of anyone involved with it, including prison, or other injuries;

And so on.

The point I'm hoping to make, is another one which comes from my long life of being a repair guy. I learned in a number of different industries, that if you try to fix a problem by assuming you already know what to do, and worst of all, that it's all about punishing people, you wont fix a damn thing. You'll make things worse, every time.

Declaring that Prostitution and or porn are simple concerns to be dealt with applying a blanket policy of any kind, is an act of insistent ignorance. And we have way too much of THAT going on in the world these days.

Not everyone where I live overlooks it. Depending which side of the road you're from. I've lived on the leafy suburb part, and now living on the more "edgy" part. No wonder I don't know whether I'm coming or going. . The area of the same road where my current home is, is known as a red light district. A lot of my male friends keep telling me how the prostitutes ask them if they want any "business". They tell those prostitutes to do one. For heavens sake, these are pensioners living in retirement care homes. And the care staff are hardly going to allow that to happen to their own tenants. These men are in care, because they can't function in everyday society, so the prostitutes will gain nothing asking them for sex, because their living in a totally different kind of social environment to my male friends living in the care home.

I'm not talking about selling little kiddies here or the sale of human beings as in sex-slavery or any manner of slavery. That's just wrong.
Prostitution has been going-on for eons & often times, it's been the basis of many past & present "Marriages". I actually see nothing wrong with the act & confess to having more respect for the working woman[prostitute] who makes her intent, clear than for these sneaky & creepy females[wife] who will marry a person merely for the financial gain such a union will afford them.



Just gross & wrong.

There is definitely an increase in the sex trafficking business in the prostitution industry. Also organized crime plays a big role too. Law enforcement especially vice uses different techniques and tools and at different times of choice to enforce prostitution laws. I have seen an increase in young men trafficking women from southern states up north for the purposes of prostitution. There are also known massage parlors with women who don't even speak English that also provide additional services that advertise on back page and others. It can't be argued that many innocent women and children are being exploited all over the world. There are other moral issues but they say you can't legislate morality especially in a world where morality is so undefined. Add to that the world wide internet where policing is impossible and well what a hot mess we have. It's all out there for all of us from the minute we have access to an app phone, a tablet or a library card.

if prostitution is to be criminalized , then it should take into consideration all its forms , including getting married for any materialistic benefits .... that's as well prostitution , wearing legal mask !
on the other hand , prostitution has been found since the dawn of humankind , and will continue to exist , so instead of banning it "which is pointless" it should be organized and controlled , to limit the STD's and sexual violence and other bad sequences that might be included or followed .

It depends on how big the community is and the moral make up of said community. I would assume Chicago Police put less emphasis on arresting prostitutes because they are so busy with murder, robbery, drug busts, etc. It just isn't high on their list because they have so many higher priority crimes to deal with.

However, 90 miles away a prostitute working the streets of Lakeville, Indiana (population 786) would take a much higher priority form the one local full time police officer.

I don't know, I guess because having 50 different states leads to 50 different idiotic laws on the same "crime"?

Prostitution is legal in my country and no one is getting arrested for consensual sex.