Topic: ISIS is self-destructive, for a scary reason | |
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Frida Ghitis: The recent actions of ISIS appear to be courting retaliation and ultimately an apocalyptic battle with the West. She says it is the ultimate suicide mission. ............... (CNN)At first glance, the actions of the self-described Islamic State seem more than a little baffling. Even when viewed through the logic of a terrorist organization, they appear self-destructive. ISIS has done its best to taunt much greater powers, to provoke and pressure world leaders to launch a war against them. They seem determined to stir fury in democratic countries and create support for a grand international coalition, stoking the public's determination to back military action to destroy the terrorist group. The recent ISIS attacks in France, the downing of a Russian plane in Egypt, believed by Russia and others to be an ISIS operation, and the bombings in Turkey aim to achieve short, medium and long-term objectives, from creating fear, boosting its image and enhancing recruiting to triggering a much wider, cataclysmic war. Anyone who thought refraining from drawing offensive cartoons would provide protection seem to be hearing a macabre message, from the terrorists themselves: The only way to be safe from radical Islamist extremists is to destroy them. Is that what ISIS is trying to tell us; is that what it wants? Strategy of ISIS The rapid advance of ISIS on the battlefield shows that while the group operates on the logic of depravity and murder, it is not lacking in coherent strategic thinking. What, then, should we make of its seemingly counterproductive operations outside the immediate battle ground in Syria and Iraq? The answer tells us a lot about how ISIS wants the conflict to unfold. The multiple operations in Paris last week were not lone-wolf operations; they were planned at the highest levels of ISIS in its Syrian "capital," Raqqa, at least according to the French government. That means the attacks constituted pivotal elements of ISIS strategy. By causing mass casualties in multiple locations -- and possible striking at the president of France -- they ensured that France would increase its attacks in Syria, despite what ISIS may claim. In the recording claiming responsibility for the attack, ISIS suggested that one of the reasons for targeting Paris was France's participation in the anti-ISIS coalition. But everything suggests ISIS, in fact, would like that coalition to fight with more conviction. Just to be sure to fire up the rage of the man leading the response, they insulted the French president, saying the soccer match they attacked, where "Crusader German and French teams" were playing, was attended, "by the idiot of France, Francois Hollande." Then there was the curious case of the Syrian passport found near the body of a suicide bomber. Who takes a passport to a terrorist operation? Someone who wants it to be found. ISIS chose Paris, according to that missive, because it is "the capital of prostitution and vice." But Paris is also a member of NATO, whose charter calls on all members to act together in mutual defense. It is also capital of a European country with a large Muslim population and, like other European nations, one where there have been tensions between Muslims and non-Muslims, as well as concerns and controversy about how to respond to the large wave of refugees, mostly from Syria. Objectives of Paris operation The Paris operation had multiple objectives. The passport was a way of provoking the West to turn against refugees. The attack sought to provoke France, NATO and Europe to fight ISIS and the public to turn against the Muslim population and against refugees. ISIS wants a war between Islam and the rest of the world, with Muslims on its side, as a way of creating and expanding its so-called "caliphate." ISIS wants the world's Muslims to feel they are at war with the modern world. It also wants to stop the flow of Syrians to the West, because it's more than a little embarrassing that Muslims are fleeing its utopian Islamic "state." The attacks also serve other short-term objectives. They make ISIS seem courageous and efficient, able to carry out massive operations. That is a powerful recruiting tool and it cements its position as the leading Jihadi group, ahead of its main rival, al Qaeda. But there's more. ISIS had taunted the United States and Britain by theatrically beheading American and UK citizens on camera, and it's now taunting other powers, seemingly risking everything it has obtained, including control of large swaths of territory. A couple of weeks before Paris, a Russian passenger plane was shot down over Egypt's Sinai Peninsula.(See note at bottom) The Russian government says it has strong evidence that ISIS is responsible. If Russia is right, ISIS has essentially forced Moscow to launch violent reprisals. Russia has been fighting in Syria, but before this attack it had mostly avoided attacking ISIS positions. In fact, that was one of the major criticisms the U.S. and its allies had against President Vladimir Putin's decision to enter the Syrian civil war. Putin wants to defend Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, but more than 90% of Russian airstrikes had targeted not ISIS but its rivals. ISIS must have known that shooting down a Russian plane would make Putin turn his guns against the perpetrators, which is exactly what has happened. By attacking Russia, ISIS is doing the unimaginable, making Putin and the West start working together -- against ISIS. 'Risking it all' Similarly, ISIS suicide bombings in Turkey, a NATO member, have put President Recep Tayip Erdogan in a position he doesn't want, having to aid in the fight against ISIS. In fact, Erdogan has been very reluctant to help fight ISIS. Instead, he has been targeting Kurdish forces, who are the enemies of ISIS. By attacking Turkey, they press Erdogan to turn against them. ISIS seems to be risking it all, creating the conditions for an overwhelming international attack, by the United States, Russia, France, Turkey, perhaps all of NATO, against its ragtag army. If this happens, it could lose it all. Why would it risk this outcome? The answer gives a glimpse into the group's long-term objective. While ISIS is, in fact, trying to build an Islamic State and is working to capture and govern territory, its ultimate vision is an apocalyptic one. A strategy that looks self-destructive is, in fact, destructive, but perhaps less baffling than it seems as first glance. As many scholars have noted, ISIS's long-range vision is of an end-of-days battle with the West -- what it calls "Rome." It is the ultimate suicide mission, one that sees the entire world involved in a grand final conflagration. Note: An earlier version incorrectly referred to the "shooting down" of a Russian plane over Egypt. The plane is believed to have been brought down by a bomb, according to Russian authorities. ISIS is self-destructive, for a scary reason ........................................................... If this analysis is correct, and it would seem to be right, the attacks on mosques, individual Muslims etc happening all over are playing right into their game. Want to kill a snake .... cut off the head. Rather than attack all Muslims everywhere, the vast majority of whom have nothing to do with Daesh, strike at the head and remove it by whatever means necessary. The 'cells' which may be in place in different places may still survive but they are simply mop up after the fact. |
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This is very accurate. It's not so much the absence of OBL that gave rise to isil. It's the fact that unknown Sunni military leaders walked away from the weapons and vehicles we trained them to use. Thinking that America would arm isil is retarded. We armed Kurds fighting them and the Iraqi military that stabbed us in the back.
Doubt this? What happened to Saddam's army, guards politicians, Sunni extremist clerics? Think we carved through all of them in 28 days? In a full sweep from Kuwait to Turkey? Do you recall any major tank battles?that would have stretched our occupation out longer than a lunar cycle wouldn't it? It would have. Remember Iraq had Russian fighter jets tanks weapons etc. Had. Before we blew it up. |
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3325952/The-White-House-turn-black-fire-Allah-willing-ISIS-warns-fresh-attacks-Washington-video-threaten-America-days.html
'The White House will turn black with our fire, Allah willing': ISIS warns of fresh attacks on Washington in the third video to threaten America in as many days Fanatics have released a new video threatening to attack the White House Militant says ISIS will turn White House 'black with out fire, Allah willing' Another extremist also threatens Barack Obama and Francois Hollande Says ISIS will lead America, France and their allies 'like slaves, like dogs' Previous videos threatened attacks on Washington DC and New York See full news coverage of the ISIS jihadists at www.dailymail.co.uk/isis By Chris Pleasance For Dailymail.com Published: 21:26 GMT, 19 November 2015 | Updated: 11:32 GMT, 21 November 2015 Suicidal! Ought to definitely grant them their wish! |
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3325952/The-White-House-turn-black-fire-Allah-willing-ISIS-warns-fresh-attacks-Washington-video-threaten-America-days.html 'The White House will turn black with our fire, Allah willing': ISIS warns of fresh attacks on Washington in the third video to threaten America in as many days Fanatics have released a new video threatening to attack the White House Militant says ISIS will turn White House 'black with out fire, Allah willing' Another extremist also threatens Barack Obama and Francois Hollande Says ISIS will lead America, France and their allies 'like slaves, like dogs' Previous videos threatened attacks on Washington DC and New York See full news coverage of the ISIS jihadists at www.dailymail.co.uk/isis By Chris Pleasance For Dailymail.com Published: 21:26 GMT, 19 November 2015 | Updated: 11:32 GMT, 21 November 2015 Suicidal! Ought to definitely grant them their wish! No big loss there..... they'd be doing us a favor |
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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Sat 11/21/15 05:15 AM
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The Pentagon announced today the formation of a new 500 man elite fighting unit
Called the US REDNECK SPECIAL FORCES (USRSF), these good ole boys from North Carolina, Kentucky, West Virginia, Mississippi, Missouri, Arkansas, Alabama, Georgia, Texas and Tennessee, will be dropped into Iraq and Syria and will be given the following facts about Terrorists: 1. The season opened today. 2. There is no limit. 3. They taste just like chicken. 4. They don't like beer, pickups, country music or Jesus. 5. They are DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE for the death of Dale Earnhardt. This mess in the Middle East should be over in about a week. |
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and what if the original ISIS means something els? It is horrible to mess with some thing deep in the whole logical memmories behide.
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and what if the original ISIS means something els? It is horrible to mess with some thing deep in the whole logical memmories behide. enlighten us then! |
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Yes internet still good use for right? but what's tha cost behide? hehe there's no way back. Uncle.
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Just two quick notes:
-Terrorism = terror. If you bend to the "terror" (blocking refugees, carpet bombing, supporting black-ops against "legal" regimens -even if you don't like them-, waging proxy-wars, etc etc etc) the terrorist win. -To accuse all muslims as terrorist is a criminal simplification. Is like to make all christians responsible of the KKK or the Nazism actions. To clarify the believes of ISIL/DAESH I would recommend to read this entry in wikipedia (NB ISIL/DAESH are Wahabbists) I know is a little complex, but illuminating: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahhabism |
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'The White House will turn black Um....
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Edited by
RebelArcher
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Sun 11/22/15 07:07 AM
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Btw...the guy in Conrads link.....
.....definite "Beard of the Month" winner |
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'The White House will turn black Um....
remember 1812? then 1814 rolled along! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50_iRIcxsz0 |
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Edited by
Conrad_73
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Sun 11/22/15 08:06 AM
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Just two quick notes: -Terrorism = terror. If you bend to the "terror" (blocking refugees, carpet bombing, supporting black-ops against "legal" regimens -even if you don't like them-, waging proxy-wars, etc etc etc) the terrorist win. -To accuse all muslims as terrorist is a criminal simplification. Is like to make all christians responsible of the KKK or the Nazism actions. To clarify the believes of ISIL/DAESH I would recommend to read this entry in wikipedia (NB ISIL/DAESH are Wahabbists) I know is a little complex, but illuminating: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahhabism Islam conquered,Killed,burned and looted centuries before Wahhab! BTW,how do you explain Shia Hezbollah? |
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'The White House will turn black Um....
remember 1812? then 1814 rolled along! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50_iRIcxsz0 |
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ISIS is supported by Saudi Arabia, which is supported by the U.S. and Britain. They're trying to get population reduction and increasing profits from the arms race etc.
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ISIS is supported by Saudi Arabia, which is supported by the U.S. and Britain. They're trying to get population reduction and increasing profits from the arms race etc. yeah,right! |
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ISIS is supported by Saudi Arabia, which is supported by the U.S. and Britain. They're trying to get population reduction and increasing profits from the arms race etc. See them for what they are, murdering scum bags, nothing more, nothing less. |
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