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Topic: Criminal (Jared Fogle)
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Tue 10/27/15 04:53 AM



none is picking on Fogle

he is guilty of crimes that have penalties,, the question was only what the crime is to answer the question of what he should receive as a penalty'

the ACTUAL charges and court documents indicate his crimes are two things

https://lintvwlin.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/jaredfogle_allegations.pdf

1."receiving" child porn(which means someone gave him porn of minors which is anyone not yet 18

2. he traveled to have sex with a minor, who was 17 years of age



given those facts, my answer stands,, I do believe a girl at 17 can give consent, even if the law figures it otherwise, so I PERSONALLY don't feel there should be any penalty there


I also believe he obviously has a currently unacceptable attraction to teens,,,for which he should do some time and mental health assistance,,,,


Paralegal did you say?

1. Age of consent varies state to state. Some states have caveats in the age of consent laws.

2. Traveling to have sex with a person who has not reached age of majority (18), is a criminal violation of the Mann Act.

3. Kiddie porn. 17, is NOT the age of consent for pornographic images ANYWHERE in the United States.



yes, flattered that you should remember,,lol



I do believe a girl at 17 can give consent, even if the law figures it otherwise

'I do believe' was to clarify my personal belief about it, and 'even if' was to clarify my acknowledgment that the laws do not reflect my personal belief





Not here in Nevada. Under someone over 18 with someone who is 17 will still get you put on the registry,

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Tue 10/27/15 08:03 AM
Not here in Nevada. Under someone over 18
with someone who is 17 will still get you put
on the registry,
Shes not denying that...shes just saying her personal belief is that any girl who is sexually mature....whether its at 12, 14, 17....whatever....should be able to consent to banging a 20, 30, hell, even a 50 year old. Theres NO WAY, they manipulated the girls in any way, shape, form, or fashion...SURELY no perv would do that.
AND, its also her belief that that same 12, 14, or 17 y/o girl should be allowed to prostitute herself if she wants....even if if most teen prostitutes are pimped and trafficked and addicted to drugs...who cares? Amirite?
Bang those old guys teens....its Ok...MsHarmony said so laugh

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Tue 10/27/15 06:00 PM
Edited by msharmony on Tue 10/27/15 06:01 PM
I don't consider a 12 year old sexually mature

I didn't stipulate at what age I BELIEVE that to be true

ID say 9th grade and above though,,(14 and older)

My personal morals believe its best to wait for marriage, but society that tells teens its 'their' bodies and 'their' lives and expects them to become sexually active in their teens, is hypocritical to put age requirements on who that partner might be

they are either ready for sex, or they aren't


men manipulate women all the time,(from the time they are boys actually) age is also not a qualifier there,, they pretend to love them or care for them or be exclusive with them,,,etc,,,,, don't need to be a perve, just horny and dishonest


and, along the same lines, yes, if CASUAL SEX is legal , so should prostitution be WHEN it is truly a consentual choice,, anyone FORCED into sex is being RAPED, which I don't condone at any age,,,

I didn't say its 'ok' to bang old guys, I just don't believe it should be a crime to,,,,

msharmony's photo
Tue 10/27/15 08:12 PM

I didn't say its 'ok' to bang old guys, I just
don't believe it should be a crime to,,,,
Well....lucky enough for America's young teens and those young teens forced into prostitution, you don't make the laws....


nothing to do with it,, I likewise don't condone RAPE which is any SEX forced on another through threat of harm or intimidation,, including prostitution

I would not criminalize sex that is consented to whether it comes with a promise of sex, (dating) or a promise of money(prostitution, escort)

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Wed 10/28/15 01:37 AM

I don't consider a 12 year old sexually mature

I didn't stipulate at what age I BELIEVE that to be true

ID say 9th grade and above though,,(14 and older)

My personal morals believe its best to wait for marriage, but society that tells teens its 'their' bodies and 'their' lives and expects them to become sexually active in their teens, is hypocritical to put age requirements on who that partner might be

they are either ready for sex, or they aren't


men manipulate women all the time,(from the time they are boys actually) age is also not a qualifier there,, they pretend to love them or care for them or be exclusive with them,,,etc,,,,, don't need to be a perve, just horny and dishonest


and, along the same lines, yes, if CASUAL SEX is legal , so should prostitution be WHEN it is truly a consentual choice,, anyone FORCED into sex is being RAPED, which I don't condone at any age,,,

I didn't say its 'ok' to bang old guys, I just don't believe it should be a crime to,,,,


14 or so

so if your daughter was 14 and sexually active.. that is o.k. with you?.. because she consented to it?.. if she consented to drinking and doing drugs at 14, would that also be o.k. with you?

Or got pregnant...also acceptable.. because after all she consented to the sex.?

Does a 14 year old girl or boy have the mental capacity to truly understand what the ramifications of being sexual active are?.. or even what their actions are.

You just have raised some pretty smart kids.. my 2 sons were nowhere near as wise at 14.... neither was I

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Thu 10/29/15 10:57 AM
Edited by RebelArcher on Thu 10/29/15 11:00 AM
"In audio recordings released for the first time on today's episode of Dr. Phil, former Subway pitchman Jared Fogle is heard telling a woman who posed as his confidant why they should fly across the globe for a potential sexual exploit: "It would just make things a lot easier -- if we're gonna try to get some young kids with us."When asked by the woman, Rochelle Herman-Walrond, a former journalist who spent over four years secretly recording their conversations, what age children he prefers, Fogle responds: "I like all ages. That's the thing, I mean, I like all of them."Herman-Walrond, who says she was cooperating with the FBI to gather evidence against Fogle, presses: "What makes it different from one age to another?""It depends who is ready for what," Fogle is heard saying before talking about getting children "as sexed up as we can."Fogle, 38, agreed to plead guilty to engage in paid sex with minors and distribution and receipt of child pornography. A father of two, he is scheduled for sentencing November 19, and prosecutors are seeking a sentence of between 5-12 years in prison
In the video above, Herman-Walrond asks Fogle, "I want to know what turns you on the most: the young girls or the young boys?"Fogle responds, "You know, both of them do." He can then be heard revealing to Herman-Walrond a potential plan for luring children, saying, "And then we get a little closer, and a little closer, and a little closer. And before you know it, it just starts to happen."Herman-Walrond says she first met Fogle in 2006 when he was a guest on her local Florida radio show, and she immediately became concerned when he mentioned that he found middle school girls attractive. She says that following her journalist instincts, she started a friendship with Fogle to dig deeper, and she claims he continued to make comments about his sexual interest in children. She says she then contacted the FBI and spent five years "role playing" and recording her conversations with Fogle.""
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5631af1be4b063179910f976

TMommy's photo
Thu 10/29/15 12:39 PM
he can burn for all I care
lock up the summbeech
see what happens then

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Thu 11/19/15 10:54 AM
Edited by RebelArcher on Thu 11/19/15 10:54 AM
Fogle gets 15 years 8 months

Cries...says he'll never do it again, worries about his wife yada yada yada....

"" U.S. District Judge Tanya Walton Pratt
sentenced former Subway pitchman Jared
Fogle to a prison term of more than 15
years Thursday, accepting a plea deal
that sees him admit to charges of
receiving child pornography and
repeatedly having sex with minors.""
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/11/19/456622271/jared-fogle-to-learn-sentence-for-sex-with-minors-child-pornography


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Thu 11/19/15 02:29 PM
Edited for personal attacks.
Everyone's opinion is as valuable as yours,
try to remember that.

soufie
Site Moderator

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Thu 11/19/15 02:41 PM

Fogle gets 15 years 8 months

Cries...says he'll never do it again, worries about his wife yada yada yada....

"" U.S. District Judge Tanya Walton Pratt
sentenced former Subway pitchman Jared
Fogle to a prison term of more than 15
years Thursday, accepting a plea deal
that sees him admit to charges of
receiving child pornography and
repeatedly having sex with minors.""
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/11/19/456622271/jared-fogle-to-learn-sentence-for-sex-with-minors-child-pornography




Yes, today he is being issued his prison clothing and a pair of knee pads.

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Thu 11/19/15 04:23 PM


Fogle gets 15 years 8 months

Cries...says he'll never do it again, worries about his wife yada yada yada....

"" U.S. District Judge Tanya Walton Pratt
sentenced former Subway pitchman Jared
Fogle to a prison term of more than 15
years Thursday, accepting a plea deal
that sees him admit to charges of
receiving child pornography and
repeatedly having sex with minors.""
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/11/19/456622271/jared-fogle-to-learn-sentence-for-sex-with-minors-child-pornography




Yes, today he is being issued his prison clothing and a pair of knee pads.
I wonder if he was worried about his wife when he was beating off to, and banging, kiddos...

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Thu 11/19/15 04:46 PM




rofl

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Thu 11/19/15 05:25 PM

Edited for personal attacks.
Everyone's opinion is as valuable as yours,
try to remember that.

soufie
Site Moderator


But, I thought you liked me the best.flowerforyou

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Thu 11/19/15 07:24 PM



Fogle gets 15 years 8 months

Cries...says he'll never do it again, worries about his wife yada yada yada....

"" U.S. District Judge Tanya Walton Pratt
sentenced former Subway pitchman Jared
Fogle to a prison term of more than 15
years Thursday, accepting a plea deal
that sees him admit to charges of
receiving child pornography and
repeatedly having sex with minors.""
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/11/19/456622271/jared-fogle-to-learn-sentence-for-sex-with-minors-child-pornography




Yes, today he is being issued his prison clothing and a pair of knee pads.
I wonder if he was worried about his wife when he was beating off to, and banging, kiddos...


I read where she got $7 Million so she is most likely at the "Jared who?" stage.. if she's not.. she should be.. cut ties with that loser.

To tell you the truth, I thought he would have killed himself before actually having to enter prison.

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Thu 11/19/15 07:30 PM




Fogle gets 15 years 8 months

Cries...says he'll never do it again, worries about his wife yada yada yada....

"" U.S. District Judge Tanya Walton Pratt
sentenced former Subway pitchman Jared
Fogle to a prison term of more than 15
years Thursday, accepting a plea deal
that sees him admit to charges of
receiving child pornography and
repeatedly having sex with minors.""
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/11/19/456622271/jared-fogle-to-learn-sentence-for-sex-with-minors-child-pornography




Yes, today he is being issued his prison clothing and a pair of knee pads.
I wonder if he was worried about his wife when he was beating off to, and banging, kiddos...


I read where she got $7 Million so she is most likely at the "Jared who?" stage.. if she's not.. she should be.. cut ties with that loser.

To tell you the truth, I thought he would have killed himself before actually having to enter prison.
The article in the link said the judge, upon hearing Fogles "concern" about his wife, replied "Youbgave her $15 mil...she'll be ok" laugh

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Thu 11/19/15 10:32 PM
So Jared will have a decade and a half to be fully educated on the difference between 6 inches and 12 inches, likely with a number of stops in between.

There may a wig and some lipstick in his future, and likely a name change or two. Jarelda, I heard.

He may want to save his jelly packets from breakfast though.(You can google why.)

He'll likely hang himself if someone doesn't kill him first for molesting kids. As a diddler, he usually goes straight to protective custody, but guards can always open the wrong door, arrive for shower time too early or late, and Jared can get shanked in like 5 seconds or less if someone pays enough to set him up.

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Fri 11/20/15 03:59 PM

flowerforyou to have his subway cut in halfflowerforyou


silly girl laugh

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